2019 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:21 am

Not too long to wait! A great race at a great track awaits us...

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:17 am

So Mercedes 1-2 and Ferrari drivers have thrown it away.

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:21 am

Dangerous and stupid from Leclerc.

FormulaFun · Post by **FormulaFun** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:21 am

Vettel jump start and leclerc damage, oh dear Ferrari drivers up to their tricks from earlier this season... And then wtf are the stewards doing, very very dangerous to let him continue that wing could have hit Hamilton in the head, very fortunate it only took his mirror off

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:22 am

How that isn't a slam dunk penalty for Leclerc I do not know.

And surely a penalty for Vettel. Exactly the same as Kimi in Russia.

tootsie323 · Post by **tootsie323** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:23 am

Damn - more bad luck for Norris!

Jezza13 · Post by **Jezza13** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:23 am

So Verstappen forced off the track by Leclerc & he complains.

Surprise of surprises Sky sympathise with Verstappen.

cmax · Post by **cmax** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:24 am

Is Lewis carrying damage I wonder?

Jezza13 · Post by **Jezza13** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:24 am

Invade wrote:Dangerous and stupid from Leclerc.

How does it differ from Austria?

Oh yeah,, we're in Japan.

Banana Man · Post by **Banana Man** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:25 am

How much bad luck can Norris get in one season?!

Got to be a penalty for Le Clerc and Albon, surely.

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:25 am

Jezza13 wrote:So Verstappen forced off the track by Leclerc & he complains.

Surprise of surprises Sky sympathise with Verstappen.

He wasn't forced off track he was crashed into. Obviously he complains. So would anyone.

tootsie323 · Post by **tootsie323** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:26 am

cmax wrote:Is Lewis carrying damage I wonder?

Lost a wing mirror, apparently

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:26 am

Jezza13 wrote:
Invade wrote:Dangerous and stupid from Leclerc.
How does it differ from Austria?

Oh yeah,, we're in Japan.

Is this a joke? It's nothing like Austria...

cmax · Post by **cmax** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:27 am

tootsie323 wrote:
cmax wrote:Is Lewis carrying damage I wonder?
Lost a wing mirror, apparently

Ignore that. Just took 2 seconds off Seb

Jezza13 · Post by **Jezza13** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:27 am

mikeyg123 wrote:
Jezza13 wrote:So Verstappen forced off the track by Leclerc & he complains.

Surprise of surprises Sky sympathise with Verstappen.
He wasn't forced off track he was crashed into. Obviously he complains. So would anyone.

Verstappen hit Leclerc in Austria too. Watch the reply

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:28 am

tootsie323 wrote:
cmax wrote:Is Lewis carrying damage I wonder?
Lost a wing mirror, apparently

Sainz and Hamilton collided and some of Hamiltons car came off, his looking quick enough atm.

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:29 am

Jezza13 wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Jezza13 wrote:So Verstappen forced off the track by Leclerc & he complains.

Surprise of surprises Sky sympathise with Verstappen.
He wasn't forced off track he was crashed into. Obviously he complains. So would anyone.
Verstappen hit Leclerc in Austria too. Watch the reply

He did. I don't deny it.

-K- · Post by **-K-** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:29 am

Seb must be getting a drive through if they keep things consistent. Kimi Raikkonen got one for his false start.

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:29 am

FormulaFun wrote:Vettel jump start and leclerc damage, oh dear Ferrari drivers up to their tricks from earlier this season... And then wtf are the stewards doing, very very dangerous to let him continue that wing could have hit Hamilton in the head, very fortunate it only took his mirror off

what penalty did kimi get for a falst start

Johnson · Post by **Johnson** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:31 am

Surely slam dunk penalties for both Ferrari’s? Can’t remember a 1-2 start being messed up this bad by turn 1

FormulaFun · Post by **FormulaFun** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:31 am

lucifers wrote:
FormulaFun wrote:Vettel jump start and leclerc damage, oh dear Ferrari drivers up to their tricks from earlier this season... And then wtf are the stewards doing, very very dangerous to let him continue that wing could have hit Hamilton in the head, very fortunate it only took his mirror off
what penalty did kimi get for a falst start

Drive through I believe

tootsie323 · Post by **tootsie323** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:31 am

Commentary team here stating that Ferrari are finding new and innovative ways to turn a front-row lockout into a... not 1-2. One can tell they so want to say **** up..!

FormulaFun · Post by **FormulaFun** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:32 am

Jezza13 wrote:So Verstappen forced off the track by Leclerc & he complains.

Surprise of surprises Sky sympathise with Verstappen.

Don't be ridiculous, he didn't force him off, he literally punted him into a spin

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:32 am

Johnson wrote:Surely slam dunk penalties for both Ferrari’s? Can’t remember a 1-2 start being messed up this bad by turn 1

At 27 seconds....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwR_HbiHYys

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:33 am

The stewards need to sharpen up. It shouldn't take this long to give Vettel a slam dunk penalty.

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:34 am

FormulaFun wrote:
lucifers wrote:
FormulaFun wrote:Vettel jump start and leclerc damage, oh dear Ferrari drivers up to their tricks from earlier this season... And then wtf are the stewards doing, very very dangerous to let him continue that wing could have hit Hamilton in the head, very fortunate it only took his mirror off
what penalty did kimi get for a falst start
Drive through I believe

Stewards waiting long enough so Vettel can come out before most of the traffic :

, didn't Kimi get a penalty pretty quickly?

FormulaFun · Post by **FormulaFun** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:34 am

How long does it take to give vettel a penalty...

Wow, no penalty.... What????

cmax · Post by **cmax** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:34 am

mikeyg123 wrote:
Johnson wrote:Surely slam dunk penalties for both Ferrari’s? Can’t remember a 1-2 start being messed up this bad by turn 1
At 27 seconds....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwR_HbiHYys

hhhh

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:35 am

so no penalty for vettel

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:35 am

That is ludicrous. If I was Kimi I would be spitting tacks.

cmax · Post by **cmax** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:35 am

Vettel got away with it. Lucky chap

-K- · Post by **-K-** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:36 am

What the actual...

How was what Vettel did any different to what Kimi did?

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:36 am

I'm calling corruption on that one.

FormulaFun · Post by **FormulaFun** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:37 am

Rules apply to all but Vettel, Monza quali again

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:37 am

Jezza13 wrote:
Invade wrote:Dangerous and stupid from Leclerc.
How does it differ from Austria?

Oh yeah,, we're in Japan.

Pretty daft to assume I'm talking about contact between him and Verstappen in a bog standard racing incident, but yes that was more on Leclerc.

He drives around with damage and ends up disintegrating his car into the path of Hamilton. It was dangerous and stupid.

tootsie323 · Post by **tootsie323** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:38 am

Word from this end is that Vettel did not leave his grid box before he stopped again. Just speculation from commentary here...

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:39 am

And still not decision on Leclerc. I don't know why but for some reasons the stewards are desperate not to penalise Ferrari.

FormulaFun · Post by **FormulaFun** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:39 am

Merc too scared to undercut again

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:39 am

tootsie323 wrote:Word from this end is that Vettel did not leave his grid box before he stopped again. Just speculation from commentary here...

Yep, exactly like Kimi in Russia. Who got a drive through.

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:40 am

Interesting new tyre deg graphics. No idea how accurate they are though.

Vettel is on the 2-stopper.