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Well. That was a cluster chocolate fudge cake.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:33 pm
by wire2004
Remined me of the shambolic scenes at the Texas spring race in nascar back in April. I could see it happening and was laughing at disbelief that this situation was happening.

So my questions to you are as follows.
What should be the consequences of the last lap of qualifying be.
Who should be punished?
Should everyone be thrown out?
General thoughts On the whole situation.

Re: Well. That was a cluster chocolate fudge cake.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:38 pm
by F1 Racer
I thought this incident was absolutely fine. It was just a freak that eight cars didn't make it round, we've had it in the past when maybe one or two cars haven't made it to start their lap. Getting a tow does not take priority over actually being able to start your lap within the session time, so certain teams and drivers got their strategy wrong and messed up.

The drivers that didn't make it round in time to start their lap ended up not getting another run in so the punishment is already there and it's self-policing.

So yeah, there is nothing to see here, qualifying worked exactly how it is supposed to and the cars are lined up in fastest lap order out of all of the legal, completed laps that occurred in that session.

Re: Well. That was a cluster chocolate fudge cake.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:44 pm
by Alienturnedhuman
Formula One just played the prisoner's dilemma.

Re: Well. That was a cluster chocolate fudge cake.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:51 pm
by Jezza13
Alienturnedhuman wrote:Formula One just played the prisoner's dilemma.
And Sainz & Leclerc grassed on the lot of them.

Re: Well. That was a cluster chocolate fudge cake.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 8:06 pm
by Mort Canard
The last two minutes would not have been a problem except that three drives did not have a "banked" lap at the start of the session due to Kimi's crash. If you don't have a banked lap, then you better make sure that you get a good one in draft or no draft.

Re: Well. That was a cluster chocolate fudge cake.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:25 pm
by Blinky McSquinty
It starts when the teams expect to have one last lap, soft tires, everything executed perfectly to put in that screamer of a lap. But as Mike Tyson once said "everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth".

You would expect what is touted as the premier racing series as having people capable of adapting quickly to the situation and changing plans. The so-called strategists should have been screaming on their respective radios for the drivers to do anything and everything to go quickly immediately.

And maybe the FIA should institute a simple rule, such as "if you intend to go slow, then you must form a single line to the left (or right). Because intentional or not, some drivers were very guilty of blocking. Yes, everyone was going very slow, yes it was at the beginning of the lap, but it was still blocking.

What an embarrassing farce.

Re: Well. That was a cluster chocolate fudge cake.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:31 pm
by Mort Canard
Blinky McSquinty wrote:It starts when the teams expect to have one last lap, soft tires, everything executed perfectly to put in that screamer of a lap. But as Mike Tyson once said "everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth".

You would expect what is touted as the premier racing series as having people capable of adapting quickly to the situation and changing plans. The so-called strategists should have been screaming on their respective radios for the drivers to do anything and everything to go quickly immediately.

And maybe the FIA should institute a simple rule, such as "if you intend to go slow, then you must form a single line to the left (or right). Because intentional or not, some drivers were very guilty of blocking. Yes, everyone was going very slow, yes it was at the beginning of the lap, but it was still blocking.

What an embarrassing farce.
So you're suggesting that we line up all the drivers and let Mike Tyson punch them in the mouth??? Interesting approach!

Re: Well. That was a cluster chocolate fudge cake.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 9:32 pm
by Exediron
Mort Canard wrote:
Blinky McSquinty wrote:It starts when the teams expect to have one last lap, soft tires, everything executed perfectly to put in that screamer of a lap. But as Mike Tyson once said "everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth".

You would expect what is touted as the premier racing series as having people capable of adapting quickly to the situation and changing plans. The so-called strategists should have been screaming on their respective radios for the drivers to do anything and everything to go quickly immediately.

And maybe the FIA should institute a simple rule, such as "if you intend to go slow, then you must form a single line to the left (or right). Because intentional or not, some drivers were very guilty of blocking. Yes, everyone was going very slow, yes it was at the beginning of the lap, but it was still blocking.

What an embarrassing farce.
So you're suggesting that we line up all the drivers and let Mike Tyson punch them in the mouth??? Interesting approach!
Just the ones who were at the front of the queue. 8)

Re: Well. That was a cluster chocolate fudge cake.

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:18 pm
by Schumacher forever#1
Blinky McSquinty wrote:It starts when the teams expect to have one last lap, soft tires, everything executed perfectly to put in that screamer of a lap. But as Mike Tyson once said "everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth".

You would expect what is touted as the premier racing series as having people capable of adapting quickly to the situation and changing plans. The so-called strategists should have been screaming on their respective radios for the drivers to do anything and everything to go quickly immediately.

And maybe the FIA should institute a simple rule, such as "if you intend to go slow, then you must form a single line to the left (or right). Because intentional or not, some drivers were very guilty of blocking. Yes, everyone was going very slow, yes it was at the beginning of the lap, but it was still blocking.

What an embarrassing farce.
Yeah, I'm very surprised that both Sainz and Hulkenberg escaped without a penalty today. I thought it was very clear that they were both blocking the Ferrari's behind them from advancing.

Re: Well. That was a cluster chocolate fudge cake.

Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:49 am
by Mort Canard
Exediron wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:
Blinky McSquinty wrote:It starts when the teams expect to have one last lap, soft tires, everything executed perfectly to put in that screamer of a lap. But as Mike Tyson once said "everyone has a plan until you get punched in the mouth".

You would expect what is touted as the premier racing series as having people capable of adapting quickly to the situation and changing plans. The so-called strategists should have been screaming on their respective radios for the drivers to do anything and everything to go quickly immediately.

And maybe the FIA should institute a simple rule, such as "if you intend to go slow, then you must form a single line to the left (or right). Because intentional or not, some drivers were very guilty of blocking. Yes, everyone was going very slow, yes it was at the beginning of the lap, but it was still blocking.

What an embarrassing farce.
So you're suggesting that we line up all the drivers and let Mike Tyson punch them in the mouth??? Interesting approach!
Just the ones who were at the front of the queue. 8)
:thumbup: :lol: