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Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:51 pm
by mikeyg123
Jezza13 wrote:pokerman wrote:Jezza13 wrote:tootsie323 wrote:Leclerc squeezed Hamilton. This might be interesting...
After Austria I thought that stuff was perfectly legal
You are comparing things that are different.
How?
Corner entry V corner exit.
They are generally treated differently.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:51 pm
by tootsie323
With this going on, Bottas is likely to have a good tyre advantage towards the end of the race. I think that Hamilton may be screwed.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:53 pm
by Jezza13
mikeyg123 wrote:Jezza13 wrote:pokerman wrote:Jezza13 wrote:tootsie323 wrote:Leclerc squeezed Hamilton. This might be interesting...
After Austria I thought that stuff was perfectly legal
You are comparing things that are different.
How?
Corner entry V corner exit.
They are generally treated differently.
Interested to expand on post race
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:53 pm
by tootsie323
Sainz..! Pants
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:53 pm
by mikeyg123
Such an amateur hour of a weekend .
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:54 pm
by F1_Ernie
tootsie323 wrote:With this going on, Bottas is likely to have a good tyre advantage towards the end of the race. I think that Hamilton may be screwed.
Sitting in that dirty air and fighting Leclerc I get that feeling too.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:54 pm
by Banana Man
If Bottas had stayed out another lap, he’d have won this race.
FFS! McLaren, it’s hard to support them sometimes.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:54 pm
by lucifers
tootsie323 wrote:With this going on, Bottas is likely to have a good tyre advantage towards the end of the race. I think that Hamilton may be screwed.
lewis might be in trouble in the end
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:56 pm
by F1_Ernie
That Ferrari engine is ridiculous.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 1:58 pm
by Jezza13
lucifers wrote:tootsie323 wrote:With this going on, Bottas is likely to have a good tyre advantage towards the end of the race. I think that Hamilton may be screwed.
lewis might be in trouble in the end
Yeah both driving hard but with Hamilton on Meds it'll be hurting him more than Leclerc.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:00 pm
by tootsie323
Hamilton still on Leclerc's tail. Surely his tyres can't last..?
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:02 pm
by F1_Ernie
Just cant get close on that straight.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:02 pm
by pokerman
Hamilton wants to blow his engine up?
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:02 pm
by Jezza13
Jeez that Ferrari's got some straight line grunt.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:03 pm
by pokerman
tootsie323 wrote:Hamilton still on Leclerc's tail. Surely his tyres can't last..?
I'm thinking the same, Hamilton is the hare and Bottas the tortoise regarding Mercedes strategy.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:05 pm
by pokerman
Hmmm some dodgy driving by Leclerc he is on a warning already.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:05 pm
by tootsie323
Cracking stuff!
I wonder whether Hamilton might be the sacrificial lamb for Bottas?
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:07 pm
by mikeyg123
Leclerc zigzagging across the track when already on a warning. No chance of anything being done about of course.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:08 pm
by F1_Ernie
pokerman wrote:tootsie323 wrote:Hamilton still on Leclerc's tail. Surely his tyres can't last..?
I'm thinking the same, Hamilton is the hare and Bottas the tortoise regarding Mercedes strategy.
Luckily for Bottas is that Hamilton is putting so much pressure on Leclerc, very much doubt it would be the same the other way round.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:10 pm
by F1_Ernie
Hamilton has softened Leclerc for Bottas, wait and see
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:13 pm
by tootsie323
Oops...
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:13 pm
by Jezza13
Well that saves an awkward conversation
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:14 pm
by cmax
This tells me that lockup by Rosberg here in 2014 was planned in advance.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:15 pm
by TheGiantHogweed
I get the feeling that as bottas often doesn't manage his tyres very well, that when he gets to Leclerc, if he does, i don't think he will get by.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:17 pm
by tootsie323
TheGiantHogweed wrote:I get the feeling that as bottas often doesn't manage his tyres very well, that when he gets to Leclerc, if he does, i don't think he will get by.
Inclined to agree. This is swinging to Leclerc.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:18 pm
by Jezza13
Hamilton win with 2 Renaults on the podium?
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:19 pm
by pokerman
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, should Hamilton have been put on the hards given how early he pitted, the tyres seem ok for Leclerc.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:19 pm
by lucifers
man bottas can't get close to Leclerc
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:20 pm
by Banana Man
Bottas just doesn’t have that edge to take the win, reminds me a bit of Bahrain a couple of years ago.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:21 pm
by BlackMan
Jezza13 wrote:Hamilton win with 2 Renaults on the podium?
Only if Max was driving that Mercedes.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:22 pm
by pokerman
Bottas can't even get within DRS.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:24 pm
by tootsie323
It's Leclerc's race, barring an issue.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:24 pm
by pokerman
Mistake by Leclerc gets Bottas within DRS
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:25 pm
by Banana Man
Ohhh Valtteri...
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:25 pm
by Jezza13
Game over now
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:26 pm
by pokerman
Then Bottas blows it.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:26 pm
by tootsie323
tootsie323 wrote:It's Leclerc's race, barring an issue.
Spoke too soon.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:26 pm
by tootsie323
tootsie323 wrote:tootsie323 wrote:It's Leclerc's race, barring an issue.
Spoke too soon.
No I didn't...
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:26 pm
by mikeyg123
When the chips are down Bottas just isn't quite good enough.
Re: 2019 Italian Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2019 2:29 pm
by Invade
Hmm. Surprised Bottas has been completely impotent when given the chance to hunt down Leclerc. Disappointing performance.
Mercedes might regret not reversing the strategies.