2019 Hungarian Grand Prix Race Thread

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:18 pm

This looks like Verstappen's race to lose. Hamilton has to fight back from 3rd.

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:22 pm

Well, almost every driver has been getting better starts than verstappen recently, so maybe it will be a mercedes 1 - 2 if overtaking is a nightmare here

kleefton · Post by **kleefton** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:43 pm

Max is due to have a good start and I think he will manage to keep the lead. I just fear that Bottas is going to be holding up Hamilton and Verstappen might disappear in the distance. Lewis has under performed in qualifying this year imo and it may be starting to cost him. If Max wins this race, Lewis is one DNF away from being vulnerable to Max in the championship. Hopefully it's a good race.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 2:54 pm

kleefton wrote:Max is due to have a good start and I think he will manage to keep the lead. I just fear that Bottas is going to be holding up Hamilton and Verstappen might disappear in the distance. Lewis has under performed in qualifying this year imo and it may be starting to cost him. If Max wins this race, Lewis is one DNF away from being vulnerable to Max in the championship. Hopefully it's a good race.

Yeah. There are 9 races after tomorrow's race. Verstappen has upped the ante seriously & he looks more likely to challenge Hamilton for wins than Bottas.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:08 pm

Pit strategies as per Pirelli:

Source - Imgur

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 4:59 pm

kleefton wrote:Max is due to have a good start and I think he will manage to keep the lead. I just fear that Bottas is going to be holding up Hamilton and Verstappen might disappear in the distance. Lewis has under performed in qualifying this year imo and it may be starting to cost him. If Max wins this race, Lewis is one DNF away from being vulnerable to Max in the championship. Hopefully it's a good race.

Agree with all of this post but we'll see.

It is possible that Hamilton being third on the grid will be good for him, clean side and a slip stream all the way to turn one.

Johnson · Post by **Johnson** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:31 pm

Its a very long run to T1, I think there is a high chance of contact between any of the top 3 and very unlikely they will remain in that order once it works out after the first few turns.

kleefton · Post by **kleefton** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:05 pm

JN23 wrote:
kleefton wrote:Max is due to have a good start and I think he will manage to keep the lead. I just fear that Bottas is going to be holding up Hamilton and Verstappen might disappear in the distance. Lewis has under performed in qualifying this year imo and it may be starting to cost him. If Max wins this race, Lewis is one DNF away from being vulnerable to Max in the championship. Hopefully it's a good race.
Agree with all of this post but we'll see.

It is possible that Hamilton being third on the grid will be good for him, clean side and a slip stream all the way to turn one.

Being third might give him a shot at Bottas, who will get a run at Max through the slipstream but we all know Max is likely going to defend the inside hard and push Bottas wide on exit if he is too agressive. Lewis then can pounce on that opportunity. One of the Ferraris taking a spot from Lewis is also very possible.

Option or Prime · Post by **Option or Prime** » Sat Aug 03, 2019 8:21 pm

kleefton wrote:
JN23 wrote:
kleefton wrote:Max is due to have a good start and I think he will manage to keep the lead. I just fear that Bottas is going to be holding up Hamilton and Verstappen might disappear in the distance. Lewis has under performed in qualifying this year imo and it may be starting to cost him. If Max wins this race, Lewis is one DNF away from being vulnerable to Max in the championship. Hopefully it's a good race.
Agree with all of this post but we'll see.

It is possible that Hamilton being third on the grid will be good for him, clean side and a slip stream all the way to turn one.
Being third might give him a shot at Bottas, who will get a run at Max through the slipstream but we all know Max is likely going to defend the inside hard and push Bottas wide on exit if he is too agressive. Lewis then can pounce on that opportunity. One of the Ferraris taking a spot from Lewis is also very possible.

It will be interesting for sure, Verstappen might well be agressive when he had nothing to lose, but now I'm not so sure! Both Bottas and Hamilton are clean drivers and MV can't really complain anyway when he is an advocate of hard racing.

But you are right, Vettel with something to prove could be interesting, and I would be amazed if Leclerc finished the race after shunting the wall that hard so he might look for early glory.
Should be an interesting race!

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 4:41 am

Don't forget about the Ferraris behind as well. They could make a lightning start as well. I wonder if Bottas is ahead of Hamilton after turn 1, would Mercedes overcut Bottas so he at the end finishes ahead of Bottas?

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:07 am

UnlikeUday wrote:Don't forget about the Ferraris behind as well. They could make a lightning start as well. I wonder if Bottas is ahead of Hamilton after turn 1, would Mercedes overcut Bottas so he at the end finishes ahead of Bottas?

I doubt it. If Bottas (or Hamilton for that matter) is slow and really holding the other up then they might issue an order to let the other past

Johnson · Post by **Johnson** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 9:14 am

UnlikeUday wrote:Don't forget about the Ferraris behind as well. They could make a lightning start as well. I wonder if Bottas is ahead of Hamilton after turn 1, would Mercedes overcut Bottas so he at the end finishes ahead of Bottas?

This will only happen if they deem Hamilton has a chance to win and Bottas doesn't. They would not do that otherwise. During the height of the 2017 title fight between Hamilton and Vettel, Hamilton let Bottas back through.

Greenman · Post by **Greenman** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:36 am

Interesting problem for Verstappen.

If, as he claims he will, makes a fast start then no problem, however, if he is slow off the line then which does he do, try to cut off Bottas or block Hamilton ? Difficult.

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UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:12 am

Race sets available:

Source - Imgur

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 11:14 am

A better graphic explaining the potential pit strategies:

Source - Imgur

Flash2k11 · Post by **Flash2k11** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:52 pm

I've got a strong feeling that a fast starting Ferrari is going to go bowling at T1.... just a feeling.

purchville · Post by **purchville** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:55 pm

unexpectedly hot weather = toasted Mercs?

One can only hope!

Jezza13 · Post by **Jezza13** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:14 pm

That was a mega start by Verstappen.

Looks like Bottas' Merc career is toast now.

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:15 pm

Not that you can overtake but you would prefer the Bottas train behind you rather than anyone else.

Post by **Mod Titanium** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:16 pm

bottas secretly working for Redbull with those moves

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:16 pm

Hamilton lucky not to get a rear puncture.

Post by **Mod Titanium** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:17 pm

pokerman wrote:Hamilton lucky not to get a rear puncture.

Agreed, bottas very wreckless

Mort Canard · Post by **Mort Canard** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:17 pm

pokerman wrote:Hamilton lucky not to get a rear puncture.

Edit: Now they are saying Bottas came together with Leclerc and not Hamilton

TedStriker · Post by **TedStriker** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:20 pm

No contact with Lewis

Jezza13 · Post by **Jezza13** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:22 pm

Bottas to hold up Verstappen for Hamilton??

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:22 pm

Mod Titanium wrote:
pokerman wrote:Hamilton lucky not to get a rear puncture.

Agreed, bottas very wreckless

He actually damaged the win after contact with Leclerc, very clumsy by Bottas, 2 lock ups and 2 contacts.

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:24 pm

Jezza13 wrote:Bottas to hold up Verstappen for Hamilton??

Too far behind?

Surprised that Leclerc moving across on Bottas isn't being looked at.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:25 pm

Grrr Brundle pinching my lne with changing of the guard.

Post by **Mod Titanium** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:26 pm

JN23 wrote:
Jezza13 wrote:Bottas to hold up Verstappen for Hamilton??
Too far behind?

Surprised that Leclerc moving across on Bottas isn't being looked at.

being looked at now

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:26 pm

pokerman wrote:
Mod Titanium wrote:
pokerman wrote:Hamilton lucky not to get a rear puncture.

Agreed, bottas very wreckless

He actually damaged the win after contact with Leclerc, very clumsy by Bottas, 2 lock ups and 2 contacts.

The Leclerc one was absolutely not his fault. That looked very dodgy to me and I'm surprised the stewards are not even investigating it. Seems a bizarre decision.

purchville · Post by **purchville** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:26 pm

the championship might actually start to get interesting with a Hamilton retirement

purchville · Post by **purchville** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:29 pm

Nice move there Dan, well rehearsed in 2014

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:29 pm

Ferrari falling back from the front runners

Jezza13 · Post by **Jezza13** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:33 pm

Good to see Macca running 5th & 6th.

cmax · Post by **cmax** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:34 pm

pokerman wrote:Grrr Brundle pinching my lne with changing of the guard.

Yea. He can't help himself. His boy is leading.

Ruste13 · Post by **Ruste13** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:34 pm

Jezza13 wrote:Good to see Macca running 5th & 6th.

Post by **Mod Titanium** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:35 pm

Jezza13 wrote:Good to see Macca running 5th & 6th.

Jezza13 · Post by **Jezza13** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:37 pm

Looks like Hamilton starting to turn up the heat on Verstappen

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:39 pm

Great racing from Albon and Kvyat, showing Haas how it's done.

purchville · Post by **purchville** » Sun Aug 04, 2019 1:40 pm

That is RACING!!! Well done STR!