2019 Hungarian Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 1:17 pm

Source - Imgur

Alienturnedhuman · Post by **Alienturnedhuman** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:18 pm

Renault already off to a bad start, this was posted on Reddit on the motorway to Budapest - maybe Hulkenberg offered to drive the truck there to make up for his mistake in the race:

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... n_hungary/

The driver is ok, Renault have tweeted about it:

Lt. Drebin · Post by **Lt. Drebin** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:26 pm

Friday rain 60%,
Saturday dry, rain 6%.
Sunday probably dry, 43% of rain.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:03 pm

Option or Prime · Post by **Option or Prime** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 7:19 pm

Lt. Drebin wrote:Friday rain 60%,
Saturday dry, rain 6%.
Sunday probably dry, 43% of rain.

Latest weather 5% chance of rain.

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:13 pm

I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that without rain, this race is going to bring us back down to earth with a bump!

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:39 pm

Asphalt_World wrote:I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that without rain, this race is going to bring us back down to earth with a bump!

With the current Formula the Hungaroring has produced as many good races as anywhere.

Junglist · Post by **Junglist** » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:49 am

Weekend to forget for the AMG guys and gals. Hopefully they bounce back strong before the summer break

Mort Canard · Post by **Mort Canard** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:10 pm

The heat should not bother anyone with highs all three days below 80°F or 26°C.

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:44 pm

I read somewhere that Merc think they didn't get the most out of their upgrade package last weekend so that could be something to watch this weekend.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 7:21 am

Banana kerb installed at turn 5 to enforce track limits.

Source - www.imgur.com

Biffa · Post by **Biffa** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:19 am

Grosjean to Renault?

Jezza13 · Post by **Jezza13** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:21 am

Biffa wrote:Grosjean to Renault?

Huh?

Biffa · Post by **Biffa** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:00 am

Jezza13 wrote:
Biffa wrote:Grosjean to Renault?
Huh?

Just my first thought when I saw the picture above posted by alien....

babararacucudada · Post by **babararacucudada** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:01 am

Asphalt_World wrote:I hope I'm wrong, but I fear that without rain, this race is going to bring us back down to earth with a bump!

It does have a corner where forcing another driver off the track has potential. Don't say 'Suck my balls' to the driver afterward though.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:33 am

Racing Point this race will upgrade their front end with new nose, new wing & upgraded suspension. Here's a pic of the upgraded POU suspension similar to Mercedes. It should give a boost to RP cars in the low speed corners which they've been lacking.

Source - Imgur

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A close-up view:

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minchy · Post by **minchy** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:24 pm

I don't know much about engineering or tensile strength etc, but that new suspension looks like it'll come apart from the little wheel bang or hard hit curb!

Alienturnedhuman · Post by **Alienturnedhuman** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 2:58 pm

minchy wrote:I don't know much about engineering or tensile strength etc, but that new suspension looks like it'll come apart from the little wheel bang or hard hit curb!

Haas better not copy it then.

wolfticket · Post by **wolfticket** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 5:37 pm

In lieu of creating a new thread or being able to use the German GP on where much of the discussion took place*

It's seems sense (ymmv) has won out regarding giving out only fines for unsafe releases during the race:

*Why lock the race thread so soon when it is quite possible there are still things to discuss about it that make perfect seen to be in that thread?

Post by **Mod Blue** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:01 pm

wolfticket wrote:

*Why lock the race thread so soon when it is quite possible there are still things to discuss about it that make perfect seen to be in that thread?

Experience tells us otherwise. The vast majority of race threads end up in an endless circle.

Don't normally discuss this sort of thing in-thread, so if you'd like to discuss this further, please take it to the feedback thread.

j man · Post by **j man** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:34 pm

wolfticket wrote:In lieu of creating a new thread or being able to use the German GP on where much of the discussion took place*

It's seems sense (ymmv) has won out regarding giving out only fines for unsafe releases during the race:

In other words, the FIA has agreed to enforce a rule that already existed but that last week they suddenly forgot about.

Anyway at least common sense has prevailed, and thankfully nothing ever came of last week's failure to impose a penalty as Leclerc crashed out anyway.

ReservoirDog · Post by **ReservoirDog** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:34 pm

I see Mercedes back on top. Ferrari should pip Red Bull too here. RBR is not good in slow corners where Merc shines and sort of also Ferrari.

Black_Flag_11 · Post by **Black_Flag_11** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:18 pm

ReservoirDog wrote:I see Mercedes back on top. Ferrari should pip Red Bull too here. RBR is not good in slow corners where Merc shines and sort of also Ferrari.

I thought slow corners were Ferraris biggest problem area, while they were a bit better in higher speed corners. I remember them losing half a second in S3 at Barcelona for example.

shoot999 · Post by **shoot999** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:35 pm

Black_Flag_11 wrote:
ReservoirDog wrote:I see Mercedes back on top. Ferrari should pip Red Bull too here. RBR is not good in slow corners where Merc shines and sort of also Ferrari.
I thought slow corners were Ferraris biggest problem area, while they were a bit better in higher speed corners. I remember them losing half a second in S3 at Barcelona for example.

They were faster than both the Merc and RB through the slow corners in Germany with their latest upgrades. But the Mercs were trialing their upgrades as well, so that muddied the waters a bit.

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 9:53 pm

shoot999 wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:
ReservoirDog wrote:I see Mercedes back on top. Ferrari should pip Red Bull too here. RBR is not good in slow corners where Merc shines and sort of also Ferrari.
I thought slow corners were Ferraris biggest problem area, while they were a bit better in higher speed corners. I remember them losing half a second in S3 at Barcelona for example.
They were faster than both the Merc and RB through the slow corners in Germany with their latest upgrades. But the Mercs were trialing their upgrades as well, so that muddied the waters a bit.

Really? According to the graphics posted on page 2 of the Germany practice thread Merc were 0.34s faster than Ferrari in the slow corners. That's only in practice of course.

iano · Post by **iano** » Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:15 pm

UnlikeUday wrote:Banana kerb installed at turn 5 to enforce track limits.

Source - http://www.imgur.com

The Banana kerb will probably be less of a problem than the witches hats and the disruption to allow them to be replaced by track officials.

Uffman · Post by **Uffman** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:07 am

Ferrari have new updates for this race

@Autosport
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14513 ... argeboards

shoot999 · Post by **shoot999** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:38 am

Here comes the rain. Looks like heavy showers every now and again.

Jezza13 · Post by **Jezza13** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:46 am

Sounds like Crofty's got his gag of the weekend sorted with Ferrari's "Boomerang wing".

"What, the one they threw away and it keeps on coming back?"

Already pulled that trigger twice.

Alienturnedhuman · Post by **Alienturnedhuman** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:58 am

Jezza13 wrote:Sounds like Crofty's got his gag of the weekend sorted with Ferrari's "Boomerang wing".

"What, the one they threw away and it keeps on coming back?"

Already pulled that trigger twice.

I'm not laughing at his jokes. I would tell him that but he would almost certainly reply "Hi 'not laughing at his jokes', I'm Crofty"

Siao7 · Post by **Siao7** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:38 am

On a separate note, issues for a few of drivers so far, Max keeps spinning, Lewis had something with his brakes, LeClerc says the car is not great, Bottas has a nightmare morning. Great session so far!!!!

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:40 am

Siao7 wrote:On a separate note, issues for a few of drivers so far, Max keeps spinning, Lewis had something with his brakes, LeClerc says the car is not great, Bottas has a nightmare morning. Great session so far!!!!

Bad news for Ferrari if Leclerc is struggling with the car as he has their new updates and was 0.8s slower than Vettel!

Edit: there may be some confusion about who had the Ferrari upgrades. Autosport's live text said Leclerc but BBC report says Vettel.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:03 pm

Sorry for the late update guys. Just a little ill.

FP1 done:

Source - https://scontent.fbom16-1.fna.fbcdn.net ... e=5DA4BDF6

Covalent · Post by **Covalent** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:15 pm

UnlikeUday wrote:Sorry for the late update guys. Just a little ill.

Spoiler (click to show)
FP1 done:

Source - https://scontent.fbom16-1.fna.fbcdn.net ... e=5DA4BDF6

If someone relies solely on this forum for official classification then they only have themselves to blame so no worries

Fiki · Post by **Fiki** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:23 pm

UnlikeUday wrote:Sorry for the late update guys. Just a little ill.

Get well soon, UnlikeUday.

F1 Racer · Post by **F1 Racer** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:25 pm

JN23 wrote:
Jezza13 wrote:I can't see how a time penalty is justifiable & reasonable.

The driver is totally, 100% in the hands of the pit crew & it is the pit crew who has the obligation to release the car in a safe manner.

I'm against someone receiving a penalty, in racing or any other area of life, for an incident that was unavoidable on their behalf and the cause of actions by an external force. This is one example of that

It is the team that should be penalized, not the driver.
The driver is part of the team though, and therefore isn't it right that the driver should suffer for a pit crew mistake. Just as the pit crew have to suffer when a driver puts it in the wall.

Plus I don't see people complaining when a driver loses points due to car failure, when how is that any different? It's still the team's fault and not the driver's, just like the unsafe release is the team's fault.

There should be no splitting of penalties, the driver and team are one combined entry that wins and loses together.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:41 pm

More rain is expected 5 minutes into FP2:

Source - Imgur

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 12:50 pm

Fiki wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:Sorry for the late update guys. Just a little ill.
Get well soon, UnlikeUday.

Am better...thanks!

Post by **P-F1 Mod** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:25 pm

Guys, can we take this discussion to a separate thread please?

shoot999 · Post by **shoot999** » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:35 pm

Top three
1st Gasly Soft.
2nd Max 0.05 behind on Mediums
3rd Ham 0.14 behind on Hards.