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F1_Ernie wrote:Hamilton lost pole on the first run, had quite a bit of pace over Bottas.
he had the chance to improve later on and pretty much matched Bottas. He had his chances to beat Bottas after his first run, but didn't quite manage it.

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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
F1_Ernie wrote:Hamilton lost pole on the first run, had quite a bit of pace over Bottas.
he had the chance to improve later on and pretty much matched Bottas. He had his chances to beat Bottas after his first run, but didn't quite manage it.
He lost about 0.4-0.5 on the first run. He had plenty of time over Bottas, Bottas was were he was expected to be, Hamilton underperformed.
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Seems Leclerc has sorted his Q3 issue out but Vettel seems off it again. A pattern is starting to begin I think

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Is anyone else tired of Karun Chandok? So annoying.

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Got to agree Hamilton blew it. Not a strong qualifying session at all. Bottas was just Bottas, you know; rock solid and on this day it got the job done. Leclerc almost got the Mercs, which would have been incredible, but he was still one of the better performers.
Vettel seems to have given up after what happened in Canada. Somehow he is the new Gasly now. Strange. Speaking of Gasly, that is the best he has ever looked relative to Max, so maybe he is improving. Looks like Norris is starting to leave Sainz for dead in that qualifying matchup. I think he is one of the most impressive young drivers on the grid along with Max and Charles. Ricciardo continuing to beat Hulk, although the gap between them is never that big. Should be a great race.

But I can't understand why Ferrari made Leclerc go out on the softs in Q2 when he topped the session on the Mediums and was never in danger of not advancing. Why? is it because Seb wasn't good enough to get through on the Mediums so Charles had to run the same strategy as him? Very strange what is going on at Ferrari.

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TheBlackFlag wrote:Is anyone else tired of Karun Chandok? So annoying.
I know of others who find him annoying, but i can't understand why. He is extremely knowledgable and doesn't talk off topic trash. Way better than Crofty and kravitz.

In my opinion!

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Wow, what happened to Vettel. He was slowest top drivers :? Gasly did a decent job and Max was with in 0.2sec of Mercedes. The gap at the top seems to be closing
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kleefton wrote:Got to agree Hamilton blew it. Not a strong qualifying session at all. Bottas was just Bottas, you know; rock solid and on this day it got the job done. Leclerc almost got the Mercs, which would have been incredible, but he was still one of the better performers.
Vettel seems to have given up after what happened in Canada. Somehow he is the new Gasly now. Strange. Speaking of Gasly, that is the best he has ever looked relative to Max, so maybe he is improving. Looks like Norris is starting to leave Sainz for dead in that qualifying matchup. I think he is one of the most impressive young drivers on the grid along with Max and Charles. Ricciardo continuing to beat Hulk, although the gap between them is never that big. Should be a great race.

But I can't understand why Ferrari made Leclerc go out on the softs in Q2 when he topped the session on the Mediums and was never in danger of not advancing. Why? is it because Seb wasn't good enough to get through on the Mediums so Charles had to run the same strategy as him? Very strange what is going on at Ferrari.



Agree in both regards, Hamilton was scruffy on his first attempt and then maybe going behind bottas for the final run didn’t allow him to prep the tires. Congrats to bottas though.... still don’t understand the Ferrari strategy here. Looks like they are thinking 2 stopper?
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TheBlackFlag wrote:Is anyone else tired of Karun Chandok? So annoying.
Extremely frustrated with him.

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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
TheBlackFlag wrote:Is anyone else tired of Karun Chandok? So annoying.
I know of others who find him annoying, but i can't understand why. He is extremely knowledgable and doesn't talk off topic trash. Way better than Crofty and kravitz.

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I agree. He's my favourite. Really calm and knowledgeable about the sport. Love some of the other things he's done for SKY F1 like driving the first ever Williams F1 car and meeting Sir Frank whilst doing so. Was a lovely little bit of film.
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Invade wrote:
TheBlackFlag wrote:Is anyone else tired of Karun Chandok? So annoying.
Extremely frustrated with him.
Annoying....Frustrated.... but no explanation or reason as to why, just statements, hardly makes replying an easy task gents??

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Mayhem wrote:
kleefton wrote:Got to agree Hamilton blew it. Not a strong qualifying session at all. Bottas was just Bottas, you know; rock solid and on this day it got the job done. Leclerc almost got the Mercs, which would have been incredible, but he was still one of the better performers.
Vettel seems to have given up after what happened in Canada. Somehow he is the new Gasly now. Strange. Speaking of Gasly, that is the best he has ever looked relative to Max, so maybe he is improving. Looks like Norris is starting to leave Sainz for dead in that qualifying matchup. I think he is one of the most impressive young drivers on the grid along with Max and Charles. Ricciardo continuing to beat Hulk, although the gap between them is never that big. Should be a great race.

But I can't understand why Ferrari made Leclerc go out on the softs in Q2 when he topped the session on the Mediums and was never in danger of not advancing. Why? is it because Seb wasn't good enough to get through on the Mediums so Charles had to run the same strategy as him? Very strange what is going on at Ferrari.



Agree in both regards, Hamilton was scruffy on his first attempt and then maybe going behind bottas for the final run didn’t allow him to prep the tires. Congrats to bottas though.... still don’t understand the Ferrari strategy here. Looks like they are thinking 2 stopper?
Will be a 1 stopper, I'm guessing track position as it's the only way they can take the race to Mercedes is the start. Go the same strategy and its follow each other till the end.
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That was a scruffy session for Hamilton. He'll be frustrated with that but he still has to be the favorite for tomorrow. I don't think anyone had his pace today but it was one of those days where the track was getting slower and he stuffed the banker lap.

I can't figure out Ferrari at all this year. What were they doing? Charles was clearly the fastest of all on the Mediums. Why didn't Vettel run on the Mediums in Q2? Why didn't their pace improve at all on the softs? Can't figure this team out but, as we progress further and further this season, it is becoming clear that Charles might very well be quicker than Sebastian (at least over one lap). I get the sick feeling that Ferrari are really protecting Vettel with some of these decisions and I just don't get it. They need to focus on winning be whatever means necessary.

On a side note, it was good to see Gasly finally have a solid day again. Hopefully this will be a turning point. Things are looking very close up front all of a sudden.

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Asphalt_World wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Not on mine either.
I think you may only notice it is you have very good audio. I am listening on headphones and it is really irritating. I have tried on another tv and it is the same. If it stops between the sessions then i think there is some fault with their audio. Doesn't stop you hear what they are saying, but it is hard for me to listen to with this noise. It may not be noticeable on normal tv speakers.
Well, whilst headphones are good of course, since your post I've tried through the TV speakers and also through my soundbar. Both TV and soundbar are less than a month old and rather nice.
Yep, they have cut into an interview with lee. No background noise at all. just cone back to the commentators and the awful noise is back. It is almost unbearable for me. I am really fussy about audio so notice these things. Perhaps it is nothing like as noticeable on speakers or a noisy environment or something. The volume of this hiss is nearly as loud as them speaking.
Just plugged in my son's headphones (£150 worth) and no hiss! How odd..... Hope you can sort it out. Must be a real pain!

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Have Ferrari and Red Bull closed the gap to Mercedes then or is there something else to explain the relative closeness today?

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kleefton wrote:Got to agree Hamilton blew it. Not a strong qualifying session at all. Bottas was just Bottas, you know; rock solid and on this day it got the job done. Leclerc almost got the Mercs, which would have been incredible, but he was still one of the better performers.
Vettel seems to have given up after what happened in Canada. Somehow he is the new Gasly now. Strange. Speaking of Gasly, that is the best he has ever looked relative to Max, so maybe he is improving. Looks like Norris is starting to leave Sainz for dead in that qualifying matchup. I think he is one of the most impressive young drivers on the grid along with Max and Charles. Ricciardo continuing to beat Hulk, although the gap between them is never that big. Should be a great race.

But I can't understand why Ferrari made Leclerc go out on the softs in Q2 when he topped the session on the Mediums and was never in danger of not advancing. Why? is it because Seb wasn't good enough to get through on the Mediums so Charles had to run the same strategy as him? Very strange what is going on at Ferrari.
Probably this is what they have seen on the data. Wasn't it similar in Austria? Red Bull & Merc went for Mediums in Q2 while Ferrari went for Softs because their showed that over the first stint they are a bit faster (on their car).

And what happened to Vettel in general? I didn't even see him start a 2nd qualy lap in Q3. Did he bottle it early on?

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F1_Ernie wrote:
Mayhem wrote:
kleefton wrote:Got to agree Hamilton blew it. Not a strong qualifying session at all. Bottas was just Bottas, you know; rock solid and on this day it got the job done. Leclerc almost got the Mercs, which would have been incredible, but he was still one of the better performers.
Vettel seems to have given up after what happened in Canada. Somehow he is the new Gasly now. Strange. Speaking of Gasly, that is the best he has ever looked relative to Max, so maybe he is improving. Looks like Norris is starting to leave Sainz for dead in that qualifying matchup. I think he is one of the most impressive young drivers on the grid along with Max and Charles. Ricciardo continuing to beat Hulk, although the gap between them is never that big. Should be a great race.

But I can't understand why Ferrari made Leclerc go out on the softs in Q2 when he topped the session on the Mediums and was never in danger of not advancing. Why? is it because Seb wasn't good enough to get through on the Mediums so Charles had to run the same strategy as him? Very strange what is going on at Ferrari.



Agree in both regards, Hamilton was scruffy on his first attempt and then maybe going behind bottas for the final run didn’t allow him to prep the tires. Congrats to bottas though.... still don’t understand the Ferrari strategy here. Looks like they are thinking 2 stopper?
Will be a 1 stopper, I'm guessing track position as it's the only way they can take the race to Mercedes is the start. Go the same strategy and its follow each other till the end.


im thinking the same. hope its a 2 stopper though

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JN23 wrote:Have Ferrari and Red Bull closed the gap to Mercedes then or is there something else to explain the relative closeness today?
Personally I think Leclerc and Verstappen put in great laps and Hamilton underperformed while Bottas did what I expect of him. I believe the gap is bigger between Mercedes and the rest.
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F1_Ernie wrote:
JN23 wrote:Have Ferrari and Red Bull closed the gap to Mercedes then or is there something else to explain the relative closeness today?
Personally I think Leclerc and Verstappen put in great laps and Hamilton underperformed while Bottas did what I expect of him. I believe the gap is bigger between Mercedes and the rest.
Yeah that's a good shout to be fair

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F1_Ernie wrote:
JN23 wrote:Have Ferrari and Red Bull closed the gap to Mercedes then or is there something else to explain the relative closeness today?
Personally I think Leclerc and Verstappen put in great laps and Hamilton underperformed while Bottas did what I expect of him. I believe the gap is bigger between Mercedes and the rest.
Agreed.

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F1_Ernie wrote:
Mayhem wrote:
kleefton wrote:Got to agree Hamilton blew it. Not a strong qualifying session at all. Bottas was just Bottas, you know; rock solid and on this day it got the job done. Leclerc almost got the Mercs, which would have been incredible, but he was still one of the better performers.
Vettel seems to have given up after what happened in Canada. Somehow he is the new Gasly now. Strange. Speaking of Gasly, that is the best he has ever looked relative to Max, so maybe he is improving. Looks like Norris is starting to leave Sainz for dead in that qualifying matchup. I think he is one of the most impressive young drivers on the grid along with Max and Charles. Ricciardo continuing to beat Hulk, although the gap between them is never that big. Should be a great race.

But I can't understand why Ferrari made Leclerc go out on the softs in Q2 when he topped the session on the Mediums and was never in danger of not advancing. Why? is it because Seb wasn't good enough to get through on the Mediums so Charles had to run the same strategy as him? Very strange what is going on at Ferrari.



Agree in both regards, Hamilton was scruffy on his first attempt and then maybe going behind bottas for the final run didn’t allow him to prep the tires. Congrats to bottas though.... still don’t understand the Ferrari strategy here. Looks like they are thinking 2 stopper?
Will be a 1 stopper, I'm guessing track position as it's the only way they can take the race to Mercedes is the start. Go the same strategy and its follow each other till the end.
I disagree on the 1 stopper especially for Ferrari. They couldn’t make this same strategy work in Austria and they are once again choosing to start on the soft. One stop isn’t even being suggested with the new track surface
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Pirelli's predictions are notoriously wrong, though.

Have they ever correctly "guessed" the pit window pre-race?

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VDV23 wrote:Pirelli's predictions are notoriously wrong, though.

Have they ever correctly "guessed" the pit window pre-race?
Propably because today’s F1 is all about saving tires, engine & fuel.

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Mayhem wrote:
F1_Ernie wrote:
Mayhem wrote:
kleefton wrote:Got to agree Hamilton blew it. Not a strong qualifying session at all. Bottas was just Bottas, you know; rock solid and on this day it got the job done. Leclerc almost got the Mercs, which would have been incredible, but he was still one of the better performers.
Vettel seems to have given up after what happened in Canada. Somehow he is the new Gasly now. Strange. Speaking of Gasly, that is the best he has ever looked relative to Max, so maybe he is improving. Looks like Norris is starting to leave Sainz for dead in that qualifying matchup. I think he is one of the most impressive young drivers on the grid along with Max and Charles. Ricciardo continuing to beat Hulk, although the gap between them is never that big. Should be a great race.

But I can't understand why Ferrari made Leclerc go out on the softs in Q2 when he topped the session on the Mediums and was never in danger of not advancing. Why? is it because Seb wasn't good enough to get through on the Mediums so Charles had to run the same strategy as him? Very strange what is going on at Ferrari.



Agree in both regards, Hamilton was scruffy on his first attempt and then maybe going behind bottas for the final run didn’t allow him to prep the tires. Congrats to bottas though.... still don’t understand the Ferrari strategy here. Looks like they are thinking 2 stopper?
Will be a 1 stopper, I'm guessing track position as it's the only way they can take the race to Mercedes is the start. Go the same strategy and its follow each other till the end.
I disagree on the 1 stopper especially for Ferrari. They couldn’t make this same strategy work in Austria and they are once again choosing to start on the soft. One stop isn’t even being suggested with the new track surface
Ferrari starting on the softs wasn't the reason they lost the race, Mark Hughes race report explains it all.
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F1_Ernie wrote:
JN23 wrote:Have Ferrari and Red Bull closed the gap to Mercedes then or is there something else to explain the relative closeness today?
Personally I think Leclerc and Verstappen put in great laps and Hamilton underperformed while Bottas did what I expect of him. I believe the gap is bigger between Mercedes and the rest.
I'd go with that as well, a bit disappointing. :(
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F1_Ernie wrote:Hamilton lost pole on the first run, had quite a bit of pace over Bottas.
I don’t see any evidence of that. They were very close in basically every run.

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