Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Austrian Grand Prix
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:34 pm
For me,
Verstappen, Norris & Sainz
Verstappen, Norris & Sainz
Agreed. Sainz's comeback was remarkable, only overshadowed by Max's comebackUnlikeUday wrote:For me,
Verstappen, Norris & Sainz
Actually the Redbull was the car to have this weekend, had max not gone into anti-stall at the start, he would have won this race a lot easier.j man wrote:Verstappen. In spite of some rather rude driving to take the lead it was a great performance. Sainz deserves a mention as well.
I don't see how people can vote for Leclerc. The Ferrari was the car to have this weekend and he fluffed it.
Was it? In the same car Gasly finished 7th and a lap behind. Even Verstappen only managed to be 3rd fastest in qualifying. I find it a lazy, shallow argument to claim that a certain car was the fastest on any given weekend just because it won the race. Sometimes certain drivers just make the car look better than it really is.Rockie wrote:Actually the Redbull was the car to have this weekend, had max not gone into anti-stall at the start, he would have won this race a lot easier.j man wrote:Verstappen. In spite of some rather rude driving to take the lead it was a great performance. Sainz deserves a mention as well.
I don't see how people can vote for Leclerc. The Ferrari was the car to have this weekend and he fluffed it.
And it's a power circuit, where the Ferrari engine has a clear advantage over the Hondaj man wrote:Was it? In the same car Gasly finished 7th and a lap behind. Even Verstappen only managed to be 3rd fastest in qualifying. I find it a lazy, shallow argument to claim that a certain car was the fastest on any given weekend just because it won the race. Sometimes certain drivers just make the car look better than it really is.Rockie wrote:Actually the Redbull was the car to have this weekend, had max not gone into anti-stall at the start, he would have won this race a lot easier.j man wrote:Verstappen. In spite of some rather rude driving to take the lead it was a great performance. Sainz deserves a mention as well.
I don't see how people can vote for Leclerc. The Ferrari was the car to have this weekend and he fluffed it.
I'm assuming you watched the race.mcdo wrote:And it's a power circuit, where the Ferrari engine has a clear advantage over the Hondaj man wrote:Was it? In the same car Gasly finished 7th and a lap behind. Even Verstappen only managed to be 3rd fastest in qualifying. I find it a lazy, shallow argument to claim that a certain car was the fastest on any given weekend just because it won the race. Sometimes certain drivers just make the car look better than it really is.Rockie wrote:Actually the Redbull was the car to have this weekend, had max not gone into anti-stall at the start, he would have won this race a lot easier.j man wrote:Verstappen. In spite of some rather rude driving to take the lead it was a great performance. Sainz deserves a mention as well.
I don't see how people can vote for Leclerc. The Ferrari was the car to have this weekend and he fluffed it.
Maybe its the very person who demands who voted for Hamilton so they can start an argument?BMWSauber84 wrote:I'd love to know who that one person is who thought Lewis Hamilton was driver of the day. I have a specsavers voucher for a free eye test somewhere on me.
Unfortunately we can't talk about Max's brilliance without also talking about Gasly's absolute failure to get in Verstappen's league. Nobody was expecting him to beat Max, but 6th place should be the absolute minimum and I think Ricciardo would have been on the podium or near it here in a red bull.
If you think having a Honda engine is any way more advantageous than having a Ferrari engine then I'm lost for wordsRockie wrote:I'm assuming you watched the race.mcdo wrote:And it's a power circuit, where the Ferrari engine has a clear advantage over the Hondaj man wrote:Was it? In the same car Gasly finished 7th and a lap behind. Even Verstappen only managed to be 3rd fastest in qualifying. I find it a lazy, shallow argument to claim that a certain car was the fastest on any given weekend just because it won the race. Sometimes certain drivers just make the car look better than it really is.Rockie wrote:Actually the Redbull was the car to have this weekend, had max not gone into anti-stall at the start, he would have won this race a lot easier.j man wrote:Verstappen. In spite of some rather rude driving to take the lead it was a great performance. Sainz deserves a mention as well.
I don't see how people can vote for Leclerc. The Ferrari was the car to have this weekend and he fluffed it.
The power advantage that allowed Max on hards set the fastest lap vs Vettel on the softs or catching Leclerc and not being able to respond.
Max dropped behind his team mate and on the same strategy as everyone else still won race, if he had started second he would have won this comfortably.
I think Rio Haryanto won one of the earliest official dotd awards. But generally speaking the public has taken them seriously. If they are going to start getting hijacked by joke votes then it needs to be binned.JN23 wrote:Also they should put the official driver of the day vote in the bin. Today it was won by the driver who was lapped three times and finished last. What's the point when that happens.
Vettel started ninth and finished less than a second from a podium, even with a 6+ second pit stop. That's a top three performance in my book.JN23 wrote:Some of the votes make my head hurt a vote a piece for Hamilton and Russell, four for Vettel. I don't understand.
And Verstappen won it the day he drove into the pits by mistakeBMWSauber84 wrote:I think Rio Haryanto won one of the earliest official dotd awards. But generally speaking the public has taken them seriously. If they are going to start getting hijacked by joke votes then it needs to be binned.JN23 wrote:Also they should put the official driver of the day vote in the bin. Today it was won by the driver who was lapped three times and finished last. What's the point when that happens.
Another method is to limit the options.
Like many things, it has to be taken away from the masses simply because they have proven to be incapable of properly performing the task. Have people with some credibility vote on it and be done with it.BMWSauber84 wrote:I think Rio Haryanto won one of the earliest official dotd awards. But generally speaking the public has taken them seriously. If they are going to start getting hijacked by joke votes then it needs to be binned.JN23 wrote:Also they should put the official driver of the day vote in the bin. Today it was won by the driver who was lapped three times and finished last. What's the point when that happens.
Another method is to limit the options.
Yeah that would be my preference, give some of the F1 media the chance to decide or something.sandman1347 wrote:Like many things, it has to be taken away from the masses simply because they have proven to be incapable of properly performing the task. Have people with some credibility vote on it and be done with it.BMWSauber84 wrote:I think Rio Haryanto won one of the earliest official dotd awards. But generally speaking the public has taken them seriously. If they are going to start getting hijacked by joke votes then it needs to be binned.JN23 wrote:Also they should put the official driver of the day vote in the bin. Today it was won by the driver who was lapped three times and finished last. What's the point when that happens.
Another method is to limit the options.
Yeah the Vettel comment was a bit harsh, although the Merc cars being poor and Hamilton needing a wing change helped him. Not in my top three but a good drive.Chaz wrote:Vettel started ninth and finished less than a second from a podium, even with a 6+ second pit stop. That's a top three performance in my book.JN23 wrote:Some of the votes make my head hurt a vote a piece for Hamilton and Russell, four for Vettel. I don't understand.
JN23 wrote:Yeah the Vettel comment was a bit harsh, although the Merc cars being poor and Hamilton needing a wing change helped him. Not in my top three but a good drive.Chaz wrote:Vettel started ninth and finished less than a second from a podium, even with a 6+ second pit stop. That's a top three performance in my book.JN23 wrote:Some of the votes make my head hurt a vote a piece for Hamilton and Russell, four for Vettel. I don't understand.
The engine made no difference in the race, especially on the hard tyre the Redbull was the race car to have.mcdo wrote: If you think having a Honda engine is any way more advantageous than having a Ferrari engine then I'm lost for words
Two things won the race for Max today: his tyre strategy and his driving ability. You're watching the early days of a future all-time legend
I didn't say that the damage wasn't down to Hamilton, and I agree Vettel deserved to beat him.TheGiantHogweed wrote:JN23 wrote:Yeah the Vettel comment was a bit harsh, although the Merc cars being poor and Hamilton needing a wing change helped him. Not in my top three but a good drive.Chaz wrote:Vettel started ninth and finished less than a second from a podium, even with a 6+ second pit stop. That's a top three performance in my book.JN23 wrote:Some of the votes make my head hurt a vote a piece for Hamilton and Russell, four for Vettel. I don't understand.
Well, Vettel deserved to beat Hamilton quite clearly to me. I can only blame Hamilton for what happened really. He went off track and over the rough kerbs countless times. He said to the team that his tyres were good. Continues to go wide, bounce and slide and then complained about the front wing. Sky were talking about it as if he had something fly into his front wing..... He was leading the race.... I think it just has to be the case that it was down to him damaging it himself.
As mentioned before, it was one of those petulant moves brought on by not making it fairly a lap earlier. Next time he, or other like minded drivers, will simply run someone off first time knowing it's allowed.Fiki wrote:I voted Norris on the F1 site, and do so here to. Also voted Leclerc, and Ricciardo. Sainz was also worthy of a vote I feel, but Verstappen lost it on account of not being able to pass without running somebody off. His drive deserved every bit of praise up to that moment. Darn Max, grow up, will you?
Nothings changed. It's done almost every race without a penalty. Nobody's learnt anything knew.Asphalt_World wrote:As mentioned before, it was one of those petulant moves brought on by not making it fairly a lap earlier. Next time he, or other like minded drivers, will simply run someone off first time knowing it's allowed.Fiki wrote:I voted Norris on the F1 site, and do so here to. Also voted Leclerc, and Ricciardo. Sainz was also worthy of a vote I feel, but Verstappen lost it on account of not being able to pass without running somebody off. His drive deserved every bit of praise up to that moment. Darn Max, grow up, will you?
Why did you vote Ricciardo?Fiki wrote:I voted Norris on the F1 site, and do so here to. Also voted Leclerc, and Ricciardo. Sainz was also worthy of a vote I feel, but Verstappen lost it on account of not being able to pass without running somebody off. His drive deserved every bit of praise up to that moment. Darn Max, grow up, will you?
From lap 2 onwards, I'd agree. Let's not forget it was his own mistake that dropped him down to 7th to start with.mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen put in one of the drives of the decade let alone the day.
Agreed, except that Sainz was more impressive for me than Norris.Jezza13 wrote:Leclerc, Verstappen & Norris.
While I think his pass on Leclerc was wrong & deserves a penalty, that was a mega driver from Verstappen. The kind of drive you see from the greats of the sport.
Leclerc deserved the win today. Almost faultless weekend. Another very impressive drive from Norris too.
Sure but often the most heralded drives come through overcoming set backs or include errors. When Verstappen retires and we are treated to run downs of his greatest drives this will be among them. Especially seeing as his team mate could only battle in the midfield with the same equipment.j man wrote:From lap 2 onwards, I'd agree. Let's not forget it was his own mistake that dropped him down to 7th to start with.mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen put in one of the drives of the decade let alone the day.
I'd still definitely call it drive of the day though.
Tell Gasly that.Rockie wrote:Actually the Redbull was the car to have this weekend, had max not gone into anti-stall at the start, he would have won this race a lot easier.j man wrote:Verstappen. In spite of some rather rude driving to take the lead it was a great performance. Sainz deserves a mention as well.
I don't see how people can vote for Leclerc. The Ferrari was the car to have this weekend and he fluffed it.
I'd tell Gasly to get out of F1, if I told him anything. He was embarrassing again, unable to pass the midfield cars that the real top drivers cut their way through with ease.pokerman wrote:Tell Gasly that.Rockie wrote:Actually the Redbull was the car to have this weekend, had max not gone into anti-stall at the start, he would have won this race a lot easier.j man wrote:Verstappen. In spite of some rather rude driving to take the lead it was a great performance. Sainz deserves a mention as well.
I don't see how people can vote for Leclerc. The Ferrari was the car to have this weekend and he fluffed it.
Well they believe he has an inferior car to Russell, Russell gets first dibs on new parts, plus with Russell being a Mercedes young driver they give him a special engine superior to that of Kubica, without all of this Kubica is still one of the best drivers on the grid.JN23 wrote:Also they should put the official driver of the day vote in the bin. Today it was won by the driver who was lapped three times and finished last. What's the point when that happens.