sandman1347 wrote:Pretty much nothing you've said here is accurate. There is no reason you would have to believe that Bottas is faster than Ricciardo in order to believe that Hamilton is faster than Verstappen.
You kind of have to, given that Verstappen’s speed advantage over Ricciardo in 2017-18 was very similar to Hamilton’s speed advantage over Bottas.
You claim that Vettel was much faster than Raikkonen but the gap between Vettel and Raikkonen was smaller than the gap between Alonso and Raikkonen. And Hamilton is quicker than Alonso. So your own thinking seems to be collapsing in on itself.
My thinking is not the problem here, the problem is your interpretation. I never claimed that Vettel is faster than Alonso and Hamilton so that is not the problem here. My argument goes as follows:
Raikkonen = Massa
Bottas > Massa by a small margin
Vettel > Raikkonen by a big margin
Therefore Vettel > Bottas
If Vettel is better than Bottas, then Ricciardo is better than Bottas, and then the conclusion about Verstappen vs Hamilton follows logically.
I noticed that you are no longer claiming that 2014 was a fluke and that Ricciardo is not really faster than Vettel. I suppose you have completely given up on trying to prop up Vettel and are now full-time propping up Max? For that, you'll need 2014 to be legit!
Something eye-opening that has happened in 2019 is that Ricciardo is beating Hulkenberg by a convincing margin. I used to think that 2014 was a fluke because Verstappen had Ricciardo covered so easily on pace in 2018, so I just assumed that Ricciardo was overrated. However, as it turns out Verstappen is just that fast.
In fact, Ricciardo is beating Hulkenberg by at least the same margin as Hamilton has over Bottas, and is Bottas really much better than Hulkenberg?
Again, it doesn’t matter if you want to use Vettel or Hulkenberg as a cross reference, the conclusion is the same: Verstappen is the fastest driver.