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2019 French Grand Prix Race Thread
Apart from Hamilton winning, hoping for a good race for 3rd between McLaren & Red Bull.
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I expect a Mercedes to win the race. Bold prediction.
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Lots of drivers were making mistakes. So I hope it is good race. Not sure what happened to Vettel. He probably is still hot headed but I think he will catch Max and Charles in the race. In midfield I think it is between Renault and Mclarens. Albon in P11 can also get into points.
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Hamilton to win from the first corner of the first lap. There might be some interesting scraps for lower positions, but with the WDC already decided what is the point?
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Phew. It's a relief that nobody is getting penalised for impeding others in F1 these days. Kimi has not been penalised for getting in the way of Grosjean! 

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Unfortunately this season is a write-off. It’s a guarantee that tomorrow will be boring.
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I think this season is going to interesting actually, we are seeing a resurgence in both McLaren and Renault, McLaren have yet to introduce the upgraded Renault engine so more to come.
Mercedes look like they will win the WDC but Norris, Leclerc and Ricciardo are making it interesting further back. Will DR reignite his rivalry with MV in a different car? Can Leclerc split the Mercedes.
Ignore the podium the fun is further back!
Mercedes look like they will win the WDC but Norris, Leclerc and Ricciardo are making it interesting further back. Will DR reignite his rivalry with MV in a different car? Can Leclerc split the Mercedes.
Ignore the podium the fun is further back!
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KingVoid wrote:Unfortunately this season is a write-off. It’s a guarantee that tomorrow will be boring.

I don't see fighting for 5th place in the race as anything that would set me on fire.
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This season is starting to feel like 2002. Only Hamilton or Mercedes fans (or die-hard F1 fans who never miss a race) will continue to tune in this year. I only hope that Red Bull and/or Ferrari can gain ground and make for some interesting races later in the season.KingVoid wrote:Unfortunately this season is a write-off. It’s a guarantee that tomorrow will be boring.
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And having just watched a brilliant quali session in Indy Car and a truly brilliant looking circuit, the issues with F1 look even more obvious.
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Pit strategy options as per Pirelli:
A one-stopper (fastest strategy):
- Start on the medium tyre for 22 to 27 laps, then switch to hard until the end.
- Starting on soft for 14 to 16 laps, then hard to the end.
A two-stopper (slower strategy):
- Start on the soft for five to eight laps, then run the medium for 22 to 27 laps, and finally medium again to the end.
A one-stopper (fastest strategy):
- Start on the medium tyre for 22 to 27 laps, then switch to hard until the end.
- Starting on soft for 14 to 16 laps, then hard to the end.
A two-stopper (slower strategy):
- Start on the soft for five to eight laps, then run the medium for 22 to 27 laps, and finally medium again to the end.
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The revised grid:
1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:28.319
2 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 0.286s
3 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 0.646s
4 Max Verstappen Red Bull 1.090s
5 Lando Norris McLaren 1.099s
6 Carlos Sainz McLaren 1.203s
7 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1.480s
8 Daniel Ricciardo Renault 1.599s
9 Pierre Gasly Red Bull 1.865s
10 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing 5.101s
11 Alex Albon Toro Rosso 1:30.461
12 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo Racing 1:30.533
13 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1:30.544
14 Sergio Perez Racing Point 1:30.738
15 Kevin Magnussen Haas 1:31.440
16 Romain Grosjean Haas 1:31.627
17 Lance Stroll Racing Point 1:32.789
18 Robert Kubica Williams 1:33.205
19 George Russell Williams 1:31.726 *
20 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso 1:31.564 *
* grid penalties due to multiple power unit element changes
1 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 1:28.319
2 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes 0.286s
3 Charles Leclerc Ferrari 0.646s
4 Max Verstappen Red Bull 1.090s
5 Lando Norris McLaren 1.099s
6 Carlos Sainz McLaren 1.203s
7 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 1.480s
8 Daniel Ricciardo Renault 1.599s
9 Pierre Gasly Red Bull 1.865s
10 Antonio Giovinazzi Alfa Romeo Racing 5.101s
11 Alex Albon Toro Rosso 1:30.461
12 Kimi Raikkonen Alfa Romeo Racing 1:30.533
13 Nico Hulkenberg Renault 1:30.544
14 Sergio Perez Racing Point 1:30.738
15 Kevin Magnussen Haas 1:31.440
16 Romain Grosjean Haas 1:31.627
17 Lance Stroll Racing Point 1:32.789
18 Robert Kubica Williams 1:33.205
19 George Russell Williams 1:31.726 *
20 Daniil Kvyat Toro Rosso 1:31.564 *
* grid penalties due to multiple power unit element changes
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Gasly and Giovanazzi are the only guys in the top 10 starting on the soft tyres so they could potentially be a bit of a nuisance to Ricciardo, or even Seb and the Mclarens with that run to turn one.
Ferrari having a new set of softs could potentially be very handy in the event of a lateish race safety car, or in the unlikely event that they fancy trying an aggressive two stopper. More likely is that it will give one of them a shot at fastest lap at the end if the Mercs are home and hosed and a gap behind opens up.
Ferrari having a new set of softs could potentially be very handy in the event of a lateish race safety car, or in the unlikely event that they fancy trying an aggressive two stopper. More likely is that it will give one of them a shot at fastest lap at the end if the Mercs are home and hosed and a gap behind opens up.
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Looking forward to seeing what the McLaren guys can do in the race and with Vettel out of position we may get some good action between him and Verstappen.
Battle at the front will likely be pretty boring, hopefully Bottas can jump Hamilton off the start as I think that's our best bet of an actual battle but even then I think the likelihood is that whichever Mercedes leads into T1 will win the race relatively uncontested.
Battle at the front will likely be pretty boring, hopefully Bottas can jump Hamilton off the start as I think that's our best bet of an actual battle but even then I think the likelihood is that whichever Mercedes leads into T1 will win the race relatively uncontested.
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Really hope McLaren have the race pace to fight.
Would be amazing to get a glimpse of Sainz Vs Norris Vs Verstappen
Would be amazing to get a glimpse of Sainz Vs Norris Vs Verstappen
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The Mclaren would need to have a decent speed advantage for Sainz and Norris to be able to fight Verstappen.FormulaFun wrote:Really hope McLaren have the race pace to fight.
Would be amazing to get a glimpse of Sainz Vs Norris Vs Verstappen
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Yes, very true but I get the impression that the McLaren is pretty good at getting the tyres to work optimally that offsets the speed advantage, that would work over one or two laps but can they keep it up?mikeyg123 wrote:The Mclaren would need to have a decent speed advantage for Sainz and Norris to be able to fight Verstappen.FormulaFun wrote:Really hope McLaren have the race pace to fight.
Would be amazing to get a glimpse of Sainz Vs Norris Vs Verstappen
In addition McLaren are not using the uprated Renault power unit apparently that might make a difference or alternatively it migh unbalance the tyre advantage. Either way its good to see them back, even if it is temporary. I wouldn't discount Ricciardo either.
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Or to even keep Vettel behind.mikeyg123 wrote:The Mclaren would need to have a decent speed advantage for Sainz and Norris to be able to fight Verstappen.FormulaFun wrote:Really hope McLaren have the race pace to fight.
Would be amazing to get a glimpse of Sainz Vs Norris Vs Verstappen
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Looks like a 1 stop race for a change 

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Speak for yourself.KingVoid wrote:Unfortunately this season is a write-off. It’s a guarantee that tomorrow will be boring.
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They would have to have a big advantage over the Red Bull to keep Vettel in a Ferrari behind them?Rockie wrote:Or to even keep Vettel behind.mikeyg123 wrote:The Mclaren would need to have a decent speed advantage for Sainz and Norris to be able to fight Verstappen.FormulaFun wrote:Really hope McLaren have the race pace to fight.
Would be amazing to get a glimpse of Sainz Vs Norris Vs Verstappen
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My prediction on this is that there is contact between two of them on lap one.FormulaFun wrote:Really hope McLaren have the race pace to fight.
Would be amazing to get a glimpse of Sainz Vs Norris Vs Verstappen
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You could add Vettel into that equation as he will be pretty keen to to get left too far behind the leaders.JN23 wrote:My prediction on this is that there is contact between two of them on lap one.FormulaFun wrote:Really hope McLaren have the race pace to fight.
Would be amazing to get a glimpse of Sainz Vs Norris Vs Verstappen
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brundle first comment to Gasly: "decent grid slot"
I just don't understand what brundle was thinking when he said that. As Gasly said, it is not where he wanted to be. 9th is not good for Red bull. It is like saying Bottas did a decent job qualifying last time out...
I just don't understand what brundle was thinking when he said that. As Gasly said, it is not where he wanted to be. 9th is not good for Red bull. It is like saying Bottas did a decent job qualifying last time out...
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It's always a tough balancing act between being truthful and being polite. I guess Brundle maybe erred a bit too far towards being polite there...TheGiantHogweed wrote:brundle first comment to Gasly: "decent grid slot"
I just don't understand what brundle was thinking when he said that. As Gasly said, it is not where he wanted to be. 9th is not good for Red bull. It is like saying Bottas did a decent job qualifying last time out...
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I think the 1 stop races became much more prevalent once Pirelli starting bringing 3 tyre compounds to each race. If the tyres are falling to bits then they always have a hard compound available that will do the race distance.F1_Ernie wrote:Looks like a 1 stop race for a change
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I think max and Lando have really high respect for other, they're friends and spend a lot of time sim racing togetherJN23 wrote:My prediction on this is that there is contact between two of them on lap one.FormulaFun wrote:Really hope McLaren have the race pace to fight.
Would be amazing to get a glimpse of Sainz Vs Norris Vs Verstappen
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This isn't too hard to comprehend, they would need to keep Vettel behind before they can think of fighting Max!mikeyg123 wrote:They would have to have a big advantage over the Red Bull to keep Vettel in a Ferrari behind them?Rockie wrote:Or to even keep Vettel behind.mikeyg123 wrote:The Mclaren would need to have a decent speed advantage for Sainz and Norris to be able to fight Verstappen.FormulaFun wrote:Really hope McLaren have the race pace to fight.
Would be amazing to get a glimpse of Sainz Vs Norris Vs Verstappen
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Sainz is way better at Fifa20 apparently!FormulaFun wrote:I think max and Lando have really high respect for other, they're friends and spend a lot of time sim racing togetherJN23 wrote:My prediction on this is that there is contact between two of them on lap one.FormulaFun wrote:Really hope McLaren have the race pace to fight.
Would be amazing to get a glimpse of Sainz Vs Norris Vs Verstappen
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I'm about as pumped for this race as I am for Monday morning at work
I hope McLaren have a strong double points finish
I hope McLaren have a strong double points finish
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Top four are getting away!
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vettel now in 5th
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So frustrating to see the front runners parked in a line 2 seconds apart every race whilst the midfield can follow each other easily.
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...and in pursuit of Max. What will happen there???lucifers wrote:vettel now in 5th

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My god Crofty is being thick.
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I hope to eat my words and this race suddenly comes alive, but so far I can see a boring circuit, no atmosphere due to lack of spectators and processional racing.
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Regarding this penalty on Perez, i saw no need for him to go off like he did. I don't think he needed to do it - but it did give him an advantage so i understand the penalty.