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2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:20 pm
by UnlikeUday

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 12:49 pm
by Junglist
Someone on reddit went through the trouble of editing lots of pictures to get rid of the blue/red run offs and replace it with grass and gravel traps. Looks so much better.


God knows how the drivers don't get distracted and take a wrong turn! (though I guess that's why they're paid the big bucks and I'm just a fan)

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:37 pm
by Badgeronimous
Junglist wrote:Someone on reddit went through the trouble of editing lots of pictures to get rid of the blue/red run offs and replace it with grass and gravel traps. Looks so much better.


God knows how the drivers don't get distracted and take a wrong turn! (though I guess that's why they're paid the big bucks and I'm just a fan)
From a car perspective it will look a lot different. On TV it gives me a headache.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:51 pm
by Exediron
Badgeronimous wrote:
Junglist wrote:God knows how the drivers don't get distracted and take a wrong turn! (though I guess that's why they're paid the big bucks and I'm just a fan)
From a car perspective it will look a lot different. On TV it gives me a headache.
It's actually still pretty confusing onboard, at least in the F1 games... Particularly the chicane on the back straight is hard to spot correctly. :-P

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:47 am
by Alienturnedhuman
Junglist wrote:Someone on reddit went through the trouble of editing lots of pictures to get rid of the blue/red run offs and replace it with grass and gravel traps. Looks so much better.


God knows how the drivers don't get distracted and take a wrong turn! (though I guess that's why they're paid the big bucks and I'm just a fan)
I was curious and it was buried quite deep, so here is the link for anyone interested:

https://imgur.com/a/8cRj6CD

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 2:28 am
by Exediron
Alienturnedhuman wrote:
Junglist wrote:Someone on reddit went through the trouble of editing lots of pictures to get rid of the blue/red run offs and replace it with grass and gravel traps. Looks so much better.


God knows how the drivers don't get distracted and take a wrong turn! (though I guess that's why they're paid the big bucks and I'm just a fan)
I was curious and it was buried quite deep, so here is the link for anyone interested:

https://imgur.com/a/8cRj6CD
It looks generic now. In the real pictures, you can instantly name what track it is. In the altered photos, it could be anywhere.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:10 am
by Lt. Drebin
I was hoping.... but F1 missed another chance to listen to drivers and fans.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia- ... 2/3129286/

It was like, "good, we will consider removing chicane for 2019, it is too late now", and in the meantime they just did nothing. Shameful.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:14 am
by Lt. Drebin
Exediron wrote:
Alienturnedhuman wrote:
Junglist wrote:Someone on reddit went through the trouble of editing lots of pictures to get rid of the blue/red run offs and replace it with grass and gravel traps. Looks so much better.


God knows how the drivers don't get distracted and take a wrong turn! (though I guess that's why they're paid the big bucks and I'm just a fan)
I was curious and it was buried quite deep, so here is the link for anyone interested:

https://imgur.com/a/8cRj6CD
It looks generic now. In the real pictures, you can instantly name what track it is. In the altered photos, it could be anywhere.
My immediate reaction was, "look Nurbugring".
BTW, they have put the blue color in 1986, in a bid to create a new profile of the track which got associated with the death of Elio de Angelis who dies there in the test, may 14/15.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:41 am
by UnlikeUday
Hot weather is predicted for the race weekend:
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/39615/ho ... -prix.html

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:57 am
by Fiki
Lt. Drebin wrote:
Exediron wrote:
Alienturnedhuman wrote:
Junglist wrote:Someone on reddit went through the trouble of editing lots of pictures to get rid of the blue/red run offs and replace it with grass and gravel traps. Looks so much better.


God knows how the drivers don't get distracted and take a wrong turn! (though I guess that's why they're paid the big bucks and I'm just a fan)
I was curious and it was buried quite deep, so here is the link for anyone interested:

https://imgur.com/a/8cRj6CD
It looks generic now. In the real pictures, you can instantly name what track it is. In the altered photos, it could be anywhere.
My immediate reaction was, "look Nurbugring".
BTW, they have put the blue color in 1986, in a bid to create a new profile of the track which got associated with the death of Elio de Angelis who dies there in the test, may 14/15.
A year later, much of that original blue colouring had already faded. I never understood why the track shortcut was introduced. Elio's accident wasn't influenced by the track lay-out.

Long before last year's race, people were saying that Le Castellet would be the perfect track to show that a long straight allows slipstreaming and overtaking. But I can understand the income from the chicane grandstands is vital. Setting those up along a high-speed straight simply isn't an alternative.

Those altered photo's are interesting, but I think that instead of green grass, it should show the original vegetation we can see on old race footage.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:28 am
by UnlikeUday
New front wing of Racing Point. The upgraded one is at the bottom.

Image
Source - https://scontent.fbom16-1.fna.fbcdn.net ... e=5D8992DD

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:48 am
by Lt. Drebin
Fiki wrote:
Lt. Drebin wrote:
Exediron wrote:
Alienturnedhuman wrote:
Junglist wrote:Someone on reddit went through the trouble of editing lots of pictures to get rid of the blue/red run offs and replace it with grass and gravel traps. Looks so much better.


God knows how the drivers don't get distracted and take a wrong turn! (though I guess that's why they're paid the big bucks and I'm just a fan)
I was curious and it was buried quite deep, so here is the link for anyone interested:

https://imgur.com/a/8cRj6CD
It looks generic now. In the real pictures, you can instantly name what track it is. In the altered photos, it could be anywhere.
My immediate reaction was, "look Nurbugring".
BTW, they have put the blue color in 1986, in a bid to create a new profile of the track which got associated with the death of Elio de Angelis who dies there in the test, may 14/15.
A year later, much of that original blue colouring had already faded. I never understood why the track shortcut was introduced. Elio's accident wasn't influenced by the track lay-out.
Typical knee jerk reaction. Another example, Terlamenbocht in Zolder absolutely had nothing to do with the tragedy of Gilles Villeneuve, but they added chicane to it, more like some monument to the tragedy. I am glad that they did not change Suzuka after Bianchi's fatal accident.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:58 am
by Option or Prime
UnlikeUday wrote:New front wing of Racing Point. The upgraded one is at the bottom.

Image
Source - https://scontent.fbom16-1.fna.fbcdn.net ... e=5D8992DD
Yep, anyone can see that that is going to make a huge difference........:uhoh: 8O

Or am I showing my aerodynamic ignorance!

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:43 pm
by Harpo
Option or Prime wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:New front wing of Racing Point. The upgraded one is at the bottom.

Image
Source - https://scontent.fbom16-1.fna.fbcdn.net ... e=5D8992DD
Yep, anyone can see that that is going to make a huge difference........:uhoh: 8O

Or am I showing my aerodynamic ignorance!
Silly you ! The new one is nearer to the ground and so should be more efficient.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:54 pm
by Mort Canard
Harpo wrote:
Option or Prime wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:New front wing of Racing Point. The upgraded one is at the bottom.

Image
Source - https://scontent.fbom16-1.fna.fbcdn.net ... e=5D8992DD
Yep, anyone can see that that is going to make a huge difference........:uhoh: 8O

Or am I showing my aerodynamic ignorance!
Silly you ! The new one is nearer to the ground and so should be more efficient.
:lol:

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:45 am
by Option or Prime
Harpo wrote: Silly you ! The new one is nearer to the ground and so should be more efficient.
Pure genius, I should have realised :blush:

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:57 am
by WHoff78
There's been talk of randomized sprinklers to spice things up in the past, which is probably a non-starter, but could they make France a 'wet' race unless weather forecasts called for rain in the session anyway. Could set it aside from other races, or just a non -starter?

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:37 am
by Option or Prime
Not sure how you control the weather though, wouldn't you have to find a venue with guaranteed rain on race day?

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:15 am
by Lojik
For the love of god will the Sky team please STFU about that damned Canada penalty. If it will shut everyone up then give Vettel the win back, I am so bored of this rubbish.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:43 am
by TheBlackFlag
Lojik wrote:For the love of god will the Sky team please STFU about that damned Canada penalty. If it will shut everyone up then give Vettel the win back, I am so bored of this rubbish.
The British get all misty eyed whenever they get a chance to drone on and on about following the rules...

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:44 am
by Option or Prime
I'm really interested to see how Renault go this weekend, some discussion that they are aiming to be on a par with Red Bull. Seems that this is the first opportunity for the revamped engine to stretch its legs in combination with a big new aero package in several areas of the car.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 9:54 am
by Option or Prime
TheBlackFlag wrote:
Lojik wrote:For the love of god will the Sky team please STFU about that damned Canada penalty. If it will shut everyone up then give Vettel the win back, I am so bored of this rubbish.
The British get all misty eyed whenever they get a chance to drone on and on about following the rules...
Oh yes please....we love rules. :smug:

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:05 am
by shoot999
Lojik wrote:For the love of god will the Sky team please STFU about that damned Canada penalty. If it will shut everyone up then give Vettel the win back, I am so bored of this rubbish.

I'm no fan of Sky commentary (puerile rubbish) but I'm enjoying it lately for the comedy value. Herbert 'we shouldn't have rules, they are the best drivers in the world, and if there is any issues they can sort it out as gentlemen post race. DeResta 'Hamilton was also at fault for trying to overtake, and it wouldn't have gone to the stewards if Hamilton had said returning in an unsafe manner, rather than saying dangerous.' Also DeResta on Seb returning to the track 'Hamilton knew where Vettel was going to end up/ Vettel didn't know where he was going to end up.' And now with both Mercedes on hot laps we are interviewing a pregnant woman and talking about sleepless nights

Edit: and we end the session discussing fish soup and why its funny that some people have double-barrelled first names.

No idea why people pay for this rubbish.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:41 am
by pokerman
TheBlackFlag wrote:
Lojik wrote:For the love of god will the Sky team please STFU about that damned Canada penalty. If it will shut everyone up then give Vettel the win back, I am so bored of this rubbish.
The British get all misty eyed whenever they get a chance to drone on and on about following the rules...
It's not like they are actually following the rules though?

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:42 am
by pokerman
Lojik wrote:For the love of god will the Sky team please STFU about that damned Canada penalty. If it will shut everyone up then give Vettel the win back, I am so bored of this rubbish.
The coverage is starting to become more like white noise to me.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:42 am
by UnlikeUday

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:44 am
by Option or Prime
How little you know of us!

In relation to this thread, where are we not following the rules exactly?

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:20 am
by Rockie
Buzz around the paddock re Ferrari speed might be interesting to watch this weekend.


Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:22 am
by Mort Canard
Lojik wrote:For the love of god will the Sky team please STFU about that damned Canada penalty. If it will shut everyone up then give Vettel the win back, I am so bored of this rubbish.
Well according to the FIA's ruling everyone on the sky sports team got the call wrong. Now they have to backtrack and explain themselves.

They have had two weeks to come with excuses and rationalizations.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 12:47 pm
by UnlikeUday
McLaren have surely upped their game whereas Haas & Alfa Romeo have dropped their guard!

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:25 pm
by Option or Prime
Is McLaren's recent good form tied into the Renault engine perhaps?

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:34 pm
by shoot999
Mort Canard wrote:
Lojik wrote:For the love of god will the Sky team please STFU about that damned Canada penalty. If it will shut everyone up then give Vettel the win back, I am so bored of this rubbish.
Well according to the FIA's ruling everyone on the sky sports team got the call wrong. Now they have to backtrack and explain themselves.

They have had two weeks to come with excuses and rationalizations.
You could post that every five minutes whilst Sky is broadcasting and it would be relevant for that particular occasion.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:49 pm
by SteveW
shoot999 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:
Lojik wrote:For the love of god will the Sky team please STFU about that damned Canada penalty. If it will shut everyone up then give Vettel the win back, I am so bored of this rubbish.
Well according to the FIA's ruling everyone on the sky sports team got the call wrong. Now they have to backtrack and explain themselves.

They have had two weeks to come with excuses and rationalizations.
You could post that every five minutes whilst Sky is broadcasting and it would be relevant for that particular occasion.
Yeah I switched to Sky this year because I have "free" sky with my current ISP so it was only a tenner a month to get the F1 channel (overall cost still about £30 cheaper than my previous Virgin deal with no movies or sports! 8O )

They really are not a patch on Channel 4, I honestly think even Martin Brundle has lost his way a bit.....

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:09 pm
by pokerman
SteveW wrote:
shoot999 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:
Lojik wrote:For the love of god will the Sky team please STFU about that damned Canada penalty. If it will shut everyone up then give Vettel the win back, I am so bored of this rubbish.
Well according to the FIA's ruling everyone on the sky sports team got the call wrong. Now they have to backtrack and explain themselves.

They have had two weeks to come with excuses and rationalizations.
You could post that every five minutes whilst Sky is broadcasting and it would be relevant for that particular occasion.
Yeah I switched to Sky this year because I have "free" sky with my current ISP so it was only a tenner a month to get the F1 channel (overall cost still about £30 cheaper than my previous Virgin deal with no movies or sports! 8O )

They really are not a patch on Channel 4, I honestly think even Martin Brundle has lost his way a bit.....
I agree about Brundle, I need to start looking out for C4 for when they cover the races.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:15 pm
by Mort Canard
shoot999 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:
Lojik wrote:For the love of god will the Sky team please STFU about that damned Canada penalty. If it will shut everyone up then give Vettel the win back, I am so bored of this rubbish.
Well according to the FIA's ruling everyone on the sky sports team got the call wrong. Now they have to backtrack and explain themselves.

They have had two weeks to come with excuses and rationalizations.
You could post that every five minutes whilst Sky is broadcasting and it would be relevant for that particular occasion.
:thumbup: :lol:

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:16 pm
by sandman1347
I think Sky should replace Croft with Buxton and Brundle with Coulthard. Just my 2 cents.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:22 pm
by Mort Canard
sandman1347 wrote:I think Sky should replace Croft with Buxton and Brundle with Coulthard. Just my 2 cents.
Certainly replace Croft with Buxton or Bob Varsha. I still like Brundle but wouldn't mind trying out Coulthard as a replacement for Johnny Herbert, De Resta, or Chandok.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:38 pm
by UnlikeUday

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:41 pm
by Lojik
Mort Canard wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:I think Sky should replace Croft with Buxton and Brundle with Coulthard. Just my 2 cents.
Certainly replace Croft with Buxton or Bob Varsha. I still like Brundle but wouldn't mind trying out Coulthard as a replacement for Johnny Herbert, De Resta, or Chandok.
I used to like Brundle a lot, but he has slowly been disappearing up his own backside for a few years now. Croft is just a total buffoon who should have been left commentating on darts.

Re: 2019 French Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:42 pm
by JN23
Hamilton and Verstappen incident under investigation as Hamilton may have rejoined the track unsafely x(