Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 French Grand Prix

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Driver(s) of the day for me is/are:

1. Lewis Hamilton
29
27%
2. Valtteri Bottas
0
No votes
3. Sebastian Vettel
1
1%
4. Charles Leclerc
13
12%
5. Pierre Gasly
0
No votes
6. Max Verstappen
7
6%
7. Sergio Perez
0
No votes
8. Lance Stroll
5
5%
9. Robert Kubica
1
1%
10. George Russell
0
No votes
11. Carlos Sainz
10
9%
12. Lando Norris
25
23%
13. Alexander Albon
0
No votes
14. Daniil Kvyat
1
1%
15. Romain Grosjean
0
No votes
16. Kevin Magnussen
1
1%
17. Nico Hulkenberg
0
No votes
18. Daniel Ricciardo
3
3%
19. Kimi Raikkonen
12
11%
20. Antonio Giovinazzi
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 108

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For me,

Hamilton, Ricciardo & Norris
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Nobody did anything of interest so I don't think I'll vote.
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Perhaps add an option for the man who ran on to get the bollard off the track.
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I might take my vote back for Ricciardo after seeing him overtake with all his wheels off the track. He might get done for that
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Norris, Sainz, Hamilton

Disappointing:
Gasly, Kubica, Vettel
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Verstappen easily for me. Beating a Ferrari in a car his team mate could only keep in the midfield.

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I don't quite get the votes for Norris? He did a good job of keeping it together for 10 laps or so at the end with the issues his car had but other than that not sure what he did to deserve votes.

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mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen easily for me. Beating a Ferrari in a car his team mate could only keep in the midfield.

I think that is more that Gasly is doing a really poor job. Kvyat IMO has easily looked better than him overall this year - even factoring in that mistake in China.

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mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen easily for me. Beating a Ferrari in a car his team mate could only keep in the midfield.


Which Ferrari did he beat?

The one that started in 7th place?

Or you forgot he started right behind a Ferrari?

Whe might then choose both Mclaren drivers for beating Redbull.

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JN23 wrote:I don't quite get the votes for Norris? He did a good job of keeping it together for 10 laps or so at the end with the issues his car had but other than that not sure what he did to deserve votes.

I think they are votes because of people feeling sorry for him. He did a good job - for the circumstances he was in. But otherwise, Sainz did what he needed to beat him and overall did better.

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I did vote for Hamilton in the poll for a very comfortable win. However having heard Norris' radio comms in the latter part of the race, and better understanding the issues he was managing, I would give it to him instead.

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By mistake I missed one driver. It should have been Max. I voted for Kimi and Kvyat.
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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
JN23 wrote:I don't quite get the votes for Norris? He did a good job of keeping it together for 10 laps or so at the end with the issues his car had but other than that not sure what he did to deserve votes.

I think they are votes because of people feeling sorry for him. He did a good job - for the circumstances he was in. But otherwise, Sainz did what he needed to beat him and overall did better.


Yeah you're probably right. The official DotD vote is a bit of a joke.

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Vettel has made it a habit now to disappoint!
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Rockie wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen easily for me. Beating a Ferrari in a car his team mate could only keep in the midfield.


Which Ferrari did he beat?

The one that started in 7th place?

Or you forgot he started right behind a Ferrari?

Whe might then choose both Mclaren drivers for beating Redbull.


The one that couldn't close on him at all after he pitted. That one.

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I actually chose both Macca drivers & Stroll. Honorable mention to Raikkonen.

Coming from a Ricciardo fan, I don't think he's driven very intelligently in the last 2 races & can't see how he could figure in the DOTD considerations.
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Asphalt_World wrote:Nobody did anything of interest so I don't think I'll vote.


I completely agree with you. I cannot recall a duller race than today's.

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Quite a few I could go for. Certainly Hamilton and he's probably the main one. I thought this was easily Leclerc's best weekend after Bahrain. Hope he keeps this up. Vettel didn't look that poor, but he just didn't look comfortable. We didn't see how good Vettel was here last year either really because of the circumstances - but I don't think he's strong here.

Kvyat to me was really strong. The turn around this season is brilliant from him. Not sure how many will agree, but I think he'd be closer to Verstappen than Gasly is. Started from the pitlane and finished 14th in a car that didn't look strong this weekend. Got past his team mate despite starting way behind. Got by Giovinazzi and the Hass drivers even though the Sauber looked far stronger in the race to me.

Kimi and Ricciardo also looked to get a lot from there cars on race day. Ricciardo IMO over did it a bit near the end. But all the others i mention, other than Hamilton and Leclerc, I'm struggling who elce to go for. Could go for them all.


Magnussen looked terrible today. I don't think the Hass was very good anyway, but Grosjean looked better despite starting behind him. Magnussen perhaps did get left out a bit to long on his soft tyres, but even so, it wasn't that long and he was that slow he came out the pits last of all! Not good. Then he took simple ages to clear both Williams. I think it was only by around lap 25 or something that he cleared both. Grosjean wasn't that much better but he did what he needed to to beat him until he had issues. His luck is ridiculous this season.

Stroll was interesting. Although he didn't pit until very late, he still wasn't really faster then Perez on old tyres. So wasn't great there. But still, I have to say that most races this season, Stroll has looked decent. But his bad results in most of them are down to his very poor qualifying. If he works on qualifying, I can certainly see him becoming a driver than many would consider at least reasonable. his race pace and tyre management is pretty good.

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JN23 wrote:I don't quite get the votes for Norris? He did a good job of keeping it together for 10 laps or so at the end with the issues his car had but other than that not sure what he did to deserve votes.

It's like yesterday when people were saying that he was the driver of the day in qualifying despite the fact that Carlos was just a tenth behind. It's as though people ignore Carlos...

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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen easily for me. Beating a Ferrari in a car his team mate could only keep in the midfield.

I think that is more that Gasly is doing a really poor job. Kvyat IMO has easily looked better than him overall this year - even factoring in that mistake in China.



Agreed. Gasly is beyond bad. He is the worst driver on the grid by far imho. There is no way you can tell me that that car couldn't have scored a single point today, not when Max is beating a Ferrari with it.

Driver of the race for me I would have to go Leclerc, Ham and Verstappen. But nobody put in an otherworldly performance, just very good drives.
Other notables for me was Stroll also drove another good race while Vettel was quite poor and Bottas just cannot manage the tires as well as Lewis and that is truly his achille's heel in this rivalry.

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Not a great deal stood out, but Hamilton gets a vote for a great opening few laps where he got way out of DRS range. Also for his pace on the hard tyre and for a making Bottas look extremely ordinary.

Raikkonen for a very strong drive where tyres were managed superbly. His strongenst drive this season for me as I don't think the Alfa should have been up with the Renault's here.

Honourable mentions for Verstappen, Leclerc, Sainz and Norris.

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kleefton wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen easily for me. Beating a Ferrari in a car his team mate could only keep in the midfield.

I think that is more that Gasly is doing a really poor job. Kvyat IMO has easily looked better than him overall this year - even factoring in that mistake in China.



Agreed. Gasly is beyond bad. He is the worst driver on the grid by far imho. There is no way you can tell me that that car couldn't have scored a single point today, not when Max is beating a Ferrari with it.

Driver of the race for me I would have to go Leclerc, Ham and Verstappen. But nobody put in an otherworldly performance, just very good drives.
Other notables for me was Stroll also drove another good race while Vettel was quite poor and Bottas just cannot manage the tires as well as Lewis and that is truly his achille's heel in this rivalry.

Can't say he is worse than Kubica. And I don't think Giovinazzi looks better really either. Agree with most you say though. Leclerc was really strong today. I think Hamilton looked really strong too. I used to think Bottas's tyre management was a strong point. At Williams he certainly managed it a few times. But when looking after them is a bit of a challenge, Hamilton manages significantly better than him. He was doing reasonably IMO but Leclerc and Hamilton just were doing a lot better. And when the VSC came out, Bottas certainly didn't manage to manage them well after that, which to me explains why Leclerc closed up so much. I'm not sure what way it would have gone if there was a lap or two more I think Bottas may have got over his struggle with the restart and pulled back out of Leclerc's DRS range.

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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
kleefton wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen easily for me. Beating a Ferrari in a car his team mate could only keep in the midfield.

I think that is more that Gasly is doing a really poor job. Kvyat IMO has easily looked better than him overall this year - even factoring in that mistake in China.



Agreed. Gasly is beyond bad. He is the worst driver on the grid by far imho. There is no way you can tell me that that car couldn't have scored a single point today, not when Max is beating a Ferrari with it.

Driver of the race for me I would have to go Leclerc, Ham and Verstappen. But nobody put in an otherworldly performance, just very good drives.
Other notables for me was Stroll also drove another good race while Vettel was quite poor and Bottas just cannot manage the tires as well as Lewis and that is truly his achille's heel in this rivalry.

Can't say he is worse than Kubica. And I don't think Giovinazzi looks better really either. Agree with most you say though. Leclerc was really strong today. I think Hamilton looked really strong too. I used to think Bottas's tyre management was a strong point. At Williams he certainly managed it a few times. But when looking after them is a bit of a challenge, Hamilton manages significantly better than him. He was doing reasonably IMO but Leclerc and Hamilton just were doing a lot better. And when the VSC came out, Bottas certainly didn't manage to manage them well after that, which to me explains why Leclerc closed up so much. I'm not sure what way it would have gone if there was a lap or two more I think Bottas may have got over his struggle with the restart and pulled back out of Leclerc's DRS range.


I forget about Kubica :lol: In that car it's hard to tell how bad he really is or is it that Russell is a special talent? I think Gasly is worse than Giovanazzi for sure. The latter can at least outqualify Kimi on merit sometimes and his race pace isn't god awful like Gasly's. But Gio makes too many mistakes.

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kleefton wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
kleefton wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen easily for me. Beating a Ferrari in a car his team mate could only keep in the midfield.

I think that is more that Gasly is doing a really poor job. Kvyat IMO has easily looked better than him overall this year - even factoring in that mistake in China.



Agreed. Gasly is beyond bad. He is the worst driver on the grid by far imho. There is no way you can tell me that that car couldn't have scored a single point today, not when Max is beating a Ferrari with it.

Driver of the race for me I would have to go Leclerc, Ham and Verstappen. But nobody put in an otherworldly performance, just very good drives.
Other notables for me was Stroll also drove another good race while Vettel was quite poor and Bottas just cannot manage the tires as well as Lewis and that is truly his achille's heel in this rivalry.

Can't say he is worse than Kubica. And I don't think Giovinazzi looks better really either. Agree with most you say though. Leclerc was really strong today. I think Hamilton looked really strong too. I used to think Bottas's tyre management was a strong point. At Williams he certainly managed it a few times. But when looking after them is a bit of a challenge, Hamilton manages significantly better than him. He was doing reasonably IMO but Leclerc and Hamilton just were doing a lot better. And when the VSC came out, Bottas certainly didn't manage to manage them well after that, which to me explains why Leclerc closed up so much. I'm not sure what way it would have gone if there was a lap or two more I think Bottas may have got over his struggle with the restart and pulled back out of Leclerc's DRS range.


I forget about Kubica :lol: In that car it's hard to tell how bad he really is or is it that Russell is a special talent? I think Gasly is worse than Giovanazzi for sure. The latter can at least outqualify Kimi on merit sometimes and his race pace isn't god awful like Gasly's. But Gio makes too many mistakes.


All this about how Gasly being really bad makes me wonder how bad Hartley was 8O

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JN23 wrote:
kleefton wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:Can't say he is worse than Kubica. And I don't think Giovinazzi looks better really either. Agree with most you say though. Leclerc was really strong today. I think Hamilton looked really strong too. I used to think Bottas's tyre management was a strong point. At Williams he certainly managed it a few times. But when looking after them is a bit of a challenge, Hamilton manages significantly better than him. He was doing reasonably IMO but Leclerc and Hamilton just were doing a lot better. And when the VSC came out, Bottas certainly didn't manage to manage them well after that, which to me explains why Leclerc closed up so much. I'm not sure what way it would have gone if there was a lap or two more I think Bottas may have got over his struggle with the restart and pulled back out of Leclerc's DRS range.


I forget about Kubica :lol: In that car it's hard to tell how bad he really is or is it that Russell is a special talent? I think Gasly is worse than Giovanazzi for sure. The latter can at least outqualify Kimi on merit sometimes and his race pace isn't god awful like Gasly's. But Gio makes too many mistakes.


All this about how Gasly being really bad makes me wonder how bad Hartley was 8O

I've said from the beginning that Hartley was an endurance racer; probably almost a second off the pace of the fastest F1 drivers. Gasley had him covered but I was never convinced that Gasly had anything for the best guys out there and this year has proven that he doesn't quite conclusively. He should NOT be in that car.

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JN23 wrote:
kleefton wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
kleefton wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:I think that is more that Gasly is doing a really poor job. Kvyat IMO has easily looked better than him overall this year - even factoring in that mistake in China.



Agreed. Gasly is beyond bad. He is the worst driver on the grid by far imho. There is no way you can tell me that that car couldn't have scored a single point today, not when Max is beating a Ferrari with it.

Driver of the race for me I would have to go Leclerc, Ham and Verstappen. But nobody put in an otherworldly performance, just very good drives.
Other notables for me was Stroll also drove another good race while Vettel was quite poor and Bottas just cannot manage the tires as well as Lewis and that is truly his achille's heel in this rivalry.

Can't say he is worse than Kubica. And I don't think Giovinazzi looks better really either. Agree with most you say though. Leclerc was really strong today. I think Hamilton looked really strong too. I used to think Bottas's tyre management was a strong point. At Williams he certainly managed it a few times. But when looking after them is a bit of a challenge, Hamilton manages significantly better than him. He was doing reasonably IMO but Leclerc and Hamilton just were doing a lot better. And when the VSC came out, Bottas certainly didn't manage to manage them well after that, which to me explains why Leclerc closed up so much. I'm not sure what way it would have gone if there was a lap or two more I think Bottas may have got over his struggle with the restart and pulled back out of Leclerc's DRS range.


I forget about Kubica :lol: In that car it's hard to tell how bad he really is or is it that Russell is a special talent? I think Gasly is worse than Giovanazzi for sure. The latter can at least outqualify Kimi on merit sometimes and his race pace isn't god awful like Gasly's. But Gio makes too many mistakes.


All this about how Gasly being really bad makes me wonder how bad Hartley was 8O

Maybe Toro Rosso should have won the race in Bahrain last year :lol: Anyway, I think that judging how bad Gasly is now, I think the line up at Toro Rosso must have not got even close to the cars potential. Kvyat got shoved about so much that I think it messed up what he was capable of. I now actually think that since he has come back this year, he is looking like he would be doing far better than Gasly in that car. I've had people criticize me when i've made this comment before - It wasn't just bad luck that allowed Kvyat to beat Ricciardo in 2015. He did have several very good drives. I just haven't seen a single outstanding or even good drive from Gasly yet this year. For Kvyat's first year at red bull, I'd say his first part of the season was far better. Verstappen will be more of a challenge for Gasly, but I don't think there is a huge difference pace wise between Verstappen and Ricciardo.

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Norris did an excellent job and had the measure of his teammate and was ordered not you deploy his DRS so as not to pass Sainz. Were it not for that order, he’d likely have finished ahead and in stronger fashion. Lewis didn’t put a foot wrong and did an amazing job, but finished where we expected he would. He’s proven to be the model of extremely precise consistency. THAT’S the difference between he and Bottas.
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Asphalt_World wrote:Perhaps add an option for the man who ran on to get the bollard off the track.


That would be runner of the day.

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F1 MERCENARY wrote:Norris did an excellent job and had the measure of his teammate and was ordered not you deploy his DRS so as not to pass Sainz. Were it not for that order, he’d likely have finished ahead and in stronger fashion. Lewis didn’t put a foot wrong and did an amazing job, but finished where we expected he would. He’s proven to be the model of extremely precise consistency. THAT’S the difference between he and Bottas.

I'm not convinced. Well before his problem, he kept getting close to Sainz but failed to get past. I don't think he'd have managed it even without his issue later on.

Regarding Hamilton, he hasn't exactly been consistent at the start of any of the more recent seasons. Bottas looked to pull a gap to nearly 4 seconds very quickly in Australia even before Hamilton thought he had a slight issue with his car. Then Hamilton did get beaten once more by Bottas in Baku. And hasn't until now looked on his best consistency in qualifying - as Bottas beat him 3 times in a row and they both have 3 poles each. I think he may well from now on be very consistent, which i don't think Bottas will. But including everything so far, I really can't say Hamilton hasn't been extremely precise in consistency.

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I am glad to see Stroll currently seventh in the standings. He finally gets some recognition.
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Räikkönen, Norris and Leclerc. Also very much liked the efforts of Kvyatt and Albon. Would love to have seen Ricciardo here, but he's been naughty.
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TheGiantHogweed wrote:
F1 MERCENARY wrote:Norris did an excellent job and had the measure of his teammate and was ordered not you deploy his DRS so as not to pass Sainz. Were it not for that order, he’d likely have finished ahead and in stronger fashion. Lewis didn’t put a foot wrong and did an amazing job, but finished where we expected he would. He’s proven to be the model of extremely precise consistency. THAT’S the difference between he and Bottas.

I'm not convinced. Well before his problem, he kept getting close to Sainz but failed to get past. I don't think he'd have managed it even without his issue later on.

Regarding Hamilton, he hasn't exactly been consistent at the start of any of the more recent seasons. Bottas looked to pull a gap to nearly 4 seconds very quickly in Australia even before Hamilton thought he had a slight issue with his car. Then Hamilton did get beaten once more by Bottas in Baku. And hasn't until now looked on his best consistency in qualifying - as Bottas beat him 3 times in a row and they both have 3 poles each. I think he may well from now on be very consistent, which i don't think Bottas will. But including everything so far, I really can't say Hamilton hasn't been extremely precise in consistency.


I don't think Hamilton has been at his best at all so far this season, but that's generally been his modus operandi. He is starting to find his stride and this season will be a procession of 2004 proportions.

I just don't think Bottas is that good, and also lacks cutting edge when it matters - he's too nice - and has the demeanour of a beaten man already. Don't get me wrong, he is fast over a lap and a clean/tidy racer capable of the odd great performance, but he is quite a bit away from being a top tier driver.

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Lt. Drebin wrote:I am glad to see Stroll currently seventh in the standings. He finally gets some recognition.


A bit flattering IMO. His drive probably shows how effective that hard tyre was. A solid enough drive but he made no impression on Perez once he made the switch to mediums. Plus he is always going to look a bit better in the race because he tends to qualify the car far lower than it's potential.

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BMWSauber84 wrote:
Lt. Drebin wrote:I am glad to see Stroll currently seventh in the standings. He finally gets some recognition.


A bit flattering IMO. His drive probably shows how effective that hard tyre was. A solid enough drive but he made no impression on Perez once he made the switch to mediums. Plus he is always going to look a bit better in the race because he tends to qualify the car far lower than it's potential.

:thumbup:

Canada aside, Stroll has not been good enough this season to justify filling that seat.

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mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen easily for me. Beating a Ferrari in a car his team mate could only keep in the midfield.

I think at this point there's a pretty serious question of whether Max is working miracles or Gasly is just plain bad.
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Exediron wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen easily for me. Beating a Ferrari in a car his team mate could only keep in the midfield.

I think at this point there's a pretty serious question of whether Max is working miracles or Gasly is just plain bad.

Probably a bit of both?
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pokerman wrote:
Exediron wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen easily for me. Beating a Ferrari in a car his team mate could only keep in the midfield.

I think at this point there's a pretty serious question of whether Max is working miracles or Gasly is just plain bad.

Probably a bit of both?

I mean, people last year said Vandoorne was past the point where we could say it was all Alonso being great - and Gasly is way further off Max than Stoff was off Alonso. I rate Max in the top category in terms of speed, but nobody should be as far off a teammate as Gasly is. It's like they're not even racing the same car.
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Hamilton, Leclerc, Sainz
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Exediron wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Exediron wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen easily for me. Beating a Ferrari in a car his team mate could only keep in the midfield.

I think at this point there's a pretty serious question of whether Max is working miracles or Gasly is just plain bad.

Probably a bit of both?

I mean, people last year said Vandoorne was past the point where we could say it was all Alonso being great - and Gasly is way further off Max than Stoff was off Alonso. I rate Max in the top category in terms of speed, but nobody should be as far off a teammate as Gasly is. It's like they're not even racing the same car.

Well last year I rated Alonso as the second best driver to Hamilton, Alonso was simply being Alonso whilst Vandoorne at best was just an average F1 driver, my only contention was with claims that Vandoorne was a top 10 driver.

I don't believe that anyone is going to make any claims for Gasly being a top 10 driver, he's maybe not that much worse than Vandoorne?

In France I have little doubt that Verstappen beat Vettel despite having an inferior car so like I said a bit of both, Verstappen is like you say perhaps working miracles whilst Gasly simply isn't good enough.
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I just hope that before Hamilton is done we get to see HAM vs VER over the course of at least one full season. They'd probably have to be in different cars, but if RBR keep showing they don't have what it takes to get over the top, I hope Mercedes can be bold and make the biggest blockbuster move in F1 since McLaren signed Senna way back when.

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