2019 Monaco Grand Prix Race Thread

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Did Ricciardo pit? He's dropped all the way back to 13th.

Edit: yeah Magnussen is with him, they must have out under SC.

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Leclerc really needs a speaking to by the stewards for his driving with a puncture. Blocking cars, making people go off line in the tunnel etc.

The race director needs a serious talking to about corrupting the race with an unneeded safety car as well.

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Pitting that early Hamilton should have been put on the hards.
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Fiki wrote:
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Fiki wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Fiki wrote:I didn't see how he could have gotten a puncture on his right rear. :? Did he touch the rail somewhere?
Yes he hit the guard rail
Whereabouts?
St Devote, trying to get past the Renault.
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pokerman wrote:Pitting that early Hamilton should have been put on the hards.
Yeah I think they realised their error on that one and pit Bottas again, but obviously they couldn't lose the lead by pitting Hamilton a second time.

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Max gets 5 seconds.
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Lewis driving slowly on purpose after 20 laps or so. Still nobody will get a look in at passing him and he's doing it to conserve tyres.

I have no issue with Lewis choosing to do it as it's the right thing for him to do. It just paints a very clear picture of what is wrong with F1 and the Monaco circuit.
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Siao7 wrote:
Fiki wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Fiki wrote:
pokerman wrote: Yes he hit the guard rail
Whereabouts?
St Devote, trying to get past the Renault.
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5 sec penalty for Verstappen.

What rubbish
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Only 5s for unsafe release? That's a new one.

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5 second penalty for Verstappen. What's the precedent on unsafe release penalties? I thought they went harder on that but I could be wrong.

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5 second penalty for Verstappen seems a bit lenient given the dangerous nature of the incident?
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Well, I think this race has been fine so far. One of the better ones of the year.

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That penalty speaks of stewards not wanting to remove one of the front runners from the race. Anyone further down the field would probably have been given a drive through imo.
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fairy cakes penalty.

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That sets a terrible penalty. It sets a terrible precedent that he's going to get lenient punishments for severe infringements.

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Silly, what should RB done? Let also Vettel pass by?

Its just show what's wrong with this crammed tight track. Not fit for F1.

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Verstappen has gotten away with that! Reeks of stewards putting the show before past/future precedent.
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Please please please rain or im going to bed

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pokerman wrote:5 second penalty for Verstappen seems a bit lenient given the dangerous nature of the incident?
Should be nothing in my opinion. They are supposed to be racing not waiting for each other in a queue.

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F1Tyrant wrote:That sets a terrible penalty. It sets a terrible precedent that he's going to get lenient punishments for severe infringements.
I agree. In other words, it's worth making an unsafe release to get a driver ahead of another in the hope that they can pull out 5 seconds on them. Far better than not getting a penalty but being stuck behind someone.

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Didn't he cause Bottas's puncture? So not just an unsafe release. What a horrible call

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F1Tyrant wrote:That sets a terrible penalty. It sets a terrible precedent that he's going to get lenient punishments for severe infringements.
Don't worry, if any of the midfield have it'd be the usual drive-through.

What a load of bull

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mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote:5 second penalty for Verstappen seems a bit lenient given the dangerous nature of the incident?
Should be nothing in my opinion. They are supposed to be racing not waiting for each other in a queue.
You tell that to the hundreds of people working in the pit lane next to cars travelling at speed a metre or two from them. If they touch and spin, god only knows what might happen.
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mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote:5 second penalty for Verstappen seems a bit lenient given the dangerous nature of the incident?
Should be nothing in my opinion. They are supposed to be racing not waiting for each other in a queue.
Racing in the pit lane???

That's new, it's the only place that they shouldn't be racing frankly

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mikeyg123 wrote:Well, I think this race has been fine so far. One of the better ones of the year.
:thumbup:

Leclerc should wake up on the wrong side of the bed more often.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote:5 second penalty for Verstappen seems a bit lenient given the dangerous nature of the incident?
Should be nothing in my opinion. They are supposed to be racing not waiting for each other in a queue.
Right so you can't drive into someone on an open track but in a pit lane with people everywhere, it's game on is it?

Makes sense to me.
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If it does not rain Vettel might win this race!

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F1Tyrant wrote:That sets a terrible penalty. It sets a terrible precedent that he's going to get lenient punishments for severe infringements.
You can't go letter by letter. You have to consider the context,it was very tight and if he would let pass Bottas he would also lose to Vettel. So on one hand its understandable that they released him like that. They did a much faster pit stop and he had the car in front.
If in another situation where these things wouldnt happen then a harder penalty would been justified.

IMO considering the constipated situation of F1 at the moment, the sterile Monaco race, the ultra domination of Merc, they just could let it slide with this one with no penalty. To make it more interesting. But majority of people seems are in favour of the stiffness of the rules, and not the context of them.
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Gio gets 10 secs. Further evidence that the max penalty was poor. One was a race track incident, one was in the controlled, safe space.

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Bloody VIP's sitting inside above the pit lane not watching the race!

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Drops of rain!

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Asphalt_World wrote:That penalty speaks of stewards not wanting to remove one of the front runners from the race. Anyone further down the field would probably have been given a drive through imo.
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Asphalt_World wrote:
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pokerman wrote:5 second penalty for Verstappen seems a bit lenient given the dangerous nature of the incident?
Should be nothing in my opinion. They are supposed to be racing not waiting for each other in a queue.
You tell that to the hundreds of people working in the pit lane next to cars travelling at speed a metre or two from them. If they touch and spin, god only knows what might happen.
The people in the pitlane including the ones that released Verstappen? I don't see what's gained with the penalty tbh.

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Siao7 wrote:
Fiki wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
Fiki wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Yes he hit the guard rail
Whereabouts?
St Devote, trying to get past the Renault.
Thanks Poker! Well, now perhaps they'll reflect on why they made the cars wider again in the search for silly laptime records.
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mikeyg123 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote:5 second penalty for Verstappen seems a bit lenient given the dangerous nature of the incident?
Should be nothing in my opinion. They are supposed to be racing not waiting for each other in a queue.
You tell that to the hundreds of people working in the pit lane next to cars travelling at speed a metre or two from them. If they touch and spin, god only knows what might happen.
The people in the pitlane including the ones that released Verstappen? I don't see what's gained with the penalty tbh.
Yes. if they had touched and a car had spun, all manner of people down the pit lane could have been driving in to. The pit lane should not be for racing side by side.
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5 second penalty for Verstappen is a joke.

Supposedly safety in the pit lane is meant to sacrosanct - this penalty makes a mockery of that.

Also, he caused Bottas to come back in, whereas the penalty doesn't need to be served until the end of the race when it is added on !

At a minimum it should have been a "stop-and-go".

Disgraceful stewards.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote:5 second penalty for Verstappen seems a bit lenient given the dangerous nature of the incident?
Should be nothing in my opinion. They are supposed to be racing not waiting for each other in a queue.
So it's alright for someone to get hurt in the pit lane?
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mikeyg123 wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote:5 second penalty for Verstappen seems a bit lenient given the dangerous nature of the incident?
Should be nothing in my opinion. They are supposed to be racing not waiting for each other in a queue.
You tell that to the hundreds of people working in the pit lane next to cars travelling at speed a metre or two from them. If they touch and spin, god only knows what might happen.
The people in the pitlane including the ones that released Verstappen? I don't see what's gained with the penalty tbh.
Come on man, you can't be seriously supporting racing in the pit lane...

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Well, it's suddenly got much darker outside my living room window. Could be a chance of rain here too. Going to have to put intermediates on my lawnmower once this race is over.
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