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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:25 pm
by pokerman
If the roles were reversed Leclerc would have to move out of the way.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:25 pm
by stevey
Vettel has a flat spot, needs to move over for Leclerc

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:27 pm
by Zoue
pokerman wrote:If the roles were reversed Leclerc would have to move out of the way.
It does look like Vettel is losing ground. Possibly due to the flat spot but whatever the reason Max is getting away from them. Would make sense for Vettel to move over

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:27 pm
by F1_Ernie
Got to love Ferrari lol

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:27 pm
by mikeyg123
Ferrari are in a pickle here.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:27 pm
by Bacus
Zoue wrote:Vettel dropping back from Max quite quickly. What has happened to his race pace this year?
It's strange. I'm not a Vettel fan, but he was always very fast in terms of race pace and qualy. He doesn't look impressive at all this year.
Or Ferrari its not that good and Leclerc is extremely fast.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:29 pm
by Zoue
...and Vettel has moved over

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:29 pm
by pokerman
Fair play Ferrari and Vettel

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:29 pm
by lucifers
finally Ferrari now lets see what Leclerc has

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:29 pm
by mikeyg123
Well done Ferrari and Vettel :thumbup:

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:29 pm
by Alienturnedhuman
That team order is over 5 laps too late.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:30 pm
by Zoue
Leclerc has dropped him very quickly. Fastest in S1 where Vettel dominated yesterday, so I'm inclined to think that flat spot is wrecking Vettel's afternoon

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:31 pm
by mikeyg123
Zoue wrote:Leclerc has dropped him very quickly. Fastest in S1 where Vettel dominated yesterday, so I'm inclined to think that flat spot is wrecking Vettel's afternoon
Vettel should just pit now. Ferrari have nothing to lose on Vettel's care now.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:32 pm
by F1_Ernie
Zoue wrote:Leclerc has dropped him very quickly. Fastest in S1 where Vettel dominated yesterday, so I'm inclined to think that flat spot is wrecking Vettel's afternoon
I agree but Ferrari always leave it too long, why make 2 cars pace suffer from a flat spot.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:32 pm
by stevey
Whens the pit window here, would have been interesting if vettel had pitted for hard at lap2

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:32 pm
by F1Tyrant
Bacus wrote:I'm not a Vettel fan, but he was always very fast in terms of race pace and qualy.
Vettel is rattled now he has a junior teammate.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:34 pm
by Zoue
mikeyg123 wrote:
Zoue wrote:Leclerc has dropped him very quickly. Fastest in S1 where Vettel dominated yesterday, so I'm inclined to think that flat spot is wrecking Vettel's afternoon
Vettel should just pit now. Ferrari have nothing to lose on Vettel's care now.
Yes he's just losing time and falling into Gasly's clutches. Much longer and he'll be open to an undercut

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:34 pm
by Zoue
F1Tyrant wrote:
Bacus wrote:I'm not a Vettel fan, but he was always very fast in terms of race pace and qualy.
Vettel is rattled now he has a junior teammate.
yes, clearly that makes him forget how to drive

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:35 pm
by Option or Prime
Have to agree Z, so you wonder why Vettel seeing Max getting smaller and smaller didn't take the pressure off the pit wall and let him by.
The entertainment coming up has to be Max v Charles

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:36 pm
by F1_Ernie
I've read apparently it was Vettels idea to change places.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:38 pm
by Zoue
F1_Ernie wrote:I've read apparently it was Vettels idea to change places.
yes they've just mentioned that on Dutch tv

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:39 pm
by Zazu
Horrific advert for F1. Can just turn over after the first corner.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:40 pm
by Option or Prime
Ok Apologies to SV, ....could it have been earlier. He won't be happy now after the botched and late pit stop!

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:41 pm
by mikeyg123
Nothing's going right for Ferrari is it?

That looked like the traffic light system not working.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:44 pm
by pokerman
It's noticeable when Hamilton is in front how he's able to gap Bottas which you don't see when it's the other way around

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:44 pm
by Zoue
and Vettel back to being quickest in S1. So must have been the flat spot

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:45 pm
by F1Tyrant
pokerman wrote:It's noticeable when Hamilton is in front how he's able to gap Bottas which you don't see when it's the other way around
Bottas needs to be able to smell Hamilton's bumper consistently if he wants to travel. Repeated races like last time are such huge pressure, Bottas is bound to crack on a few occasions.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:45 pm
by kleefton
pokerman wrote:It's noticeable when Hamilton is in front how he's able to gap Bottas which you don't see when it's the other way around
Yeah...the race pace difference is huge. He is destroying Bottas in the final sector virtually every lap.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:48 pm
by lucifers
hard tyres for Leclerc

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:48 pm
by pokerman
I'm not sure of Verstappen's strategy?

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:49 pm
by Alienturnedhuman
What is going on with Bottas? This pace deficit is surprising given his dominance over Hamilton in qualifying.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:50 pm
by Option or Prime
MV was the only driver with spare softs left so RB just trying to take advantage I think.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:51 pm
by kleefton
Alienturnedhuman wrote:What is going on with Bottas? This pace deficit is surprising given his dominance over Hamilton in qualifying.
Perhaps a more qualifying oriented setup.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:53 pm
by TheGiantHogweed
Alienturnedhuman wrote:What is going on with Bottas? This pace deficit is surprising given his dominance over Hamilton in qualifying.
i think it is more that Hamilton has found what he is missing and is now very comfortable indeed compared to qualifying. I don't think it is that Boittas is nowhere at all. Wasn't this what we expected coming to spain with Hamilton?

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:53 pm
by Altair
1-2 again.

3-5 verstapen Leclerc and vettel.

Every race is the same.

So very exciting!

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:53 pm
by Zoue
pokerman wrote:I'm not sure of Verstappen's strategy?
yeah me neither. He would have been better putting on a set of Mediums or Hards and cruising to the end

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:54 pm
by Zoue
So vettel is now clearly quicker than Leclerc. What to do? :lol:

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:57 pm
by JN23
A mimor irritation on the graphics. When they show on the left hand side 'the battle for X'.

It means you can't see how far behind one driver is from the one in front. Frustrates me.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:58 pm
by Alienturnedhuman
JN23 wrote:A mimor irritation on the graphics. When they show on the left hand side 'the battle for X'.

It means you can't see how far behind one driver is from the one in front. Frustrates me.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. The one battle they are highlighting is the one battle they aren't showing the crucial information for!

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 1:59 pm
by mikeyg123
Vettel is on a 2 stop and Leclerc a 1. Why is Leclerc still ahead?