Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 2:34 pm
Whats wrong with Bottas' car?
18:4 its pretty impetuous.kleefton wrote:Lewis finally going to get his first fastest lap point. LOL
not just Ferrari.Black_Flag_11 wrote:Ferrari need to get their heads right, why is Leclerc being held up if they're going to let him pass anyway? Why after they have already decided that they will move the slower driver over earlier in the race is Vettel getting held up by Leclerc before being let past?
Absolute mess there at the moment strategically, looks like they dont know what they're doing.
Verstappen 66P-F1 Mod wrote:Interesting weekend in a lot of ways. Ferrari are now vulnerable to Red Bull, so the fight for 3rd should get intense. I believe Max is now 3rd in the standings, unless I've made yet another data error (check the group pick game thread for more...!), and that should be a major red flag for Ferrari that they need to up their game. Slow to swap drivers both times, weird strategies (that luckily came good) and generally looking lost on the technical side. No question they're one of the best out there, but Mercedes are romping away with this one.
Which rather undermines a lot of predictions in a lot of games, as well as the general media and fan perceptions going into Melbourne. In one sense this year is remarkably unpredictable, but at the same time on a race by race basis it's liable to become boring to some.JN23 wrote:Verstappen 66P-F1 Mod wrote:Interesting weekend in a lot of ways. Ferrari are now vulnerable to Red Bull, so the fight for 3rd should get intense. I believe Max is now 3rd in the standings, unless I've made yet another data error (check the group pick game thread for more...!), and that should be a major red flag for Ferrari that they need to up their game. Slow to swap drivers both times, weird strategies (that luckily came good) and generally looking lost on the technical side. No question they're one of the best out there, but Mercedes are romping away with this one.
Vettel 64
Leclerc 57
that could be an interesting battle. At the start of the season I thought Hamilton would be WDC because the two Ferrari drivers would take points from each other, but now it might be the case that Verstappen finishes third because they take points off each other.
It was far to latepokerman wrote:Fair play Ferrari and Vettel
He seems to have done a Rosberg and gone all out for Qualifying.Alienturnedhuman wrote:What is going on with Bottas? This pace deficit is surprising given his dominance over Hamilton in qualifying.
Nah not for memikeyg123 wrote:Stroll's fault IMO Norris was clearly alongside and deserved space.
Yes I asked the same question how was Hamilton lucky when he had the race won anyway?JN23 wrote:Domination from Mercedes - Hamilton put pretty clear daylight between him and Bottas pre and post-safety car. I don't get why a few are saying Hamilton was lucky with the safety car, can someone enlighten me please?
A good drive from Verstappen and a solid drive from Gasly which might give him some confidence.
Ferrari are a shambles on the pit wall.
Not sure what the Haas drivers were playing at after the safety car, they've lost out on some points there.
Bad weekend for Alfa and RP.
Yes but for both drivers.Clarky wrote:It was far to latepokerman wrote:Fair play Ferrari and Vettel
Possibly if he's considering whoever leads after the first lap is going to win?Clarky wrote:He seems to have done a Rosberg and gone all out for Qualifying.Alienturnedhuman wrote:What is going on with Bottas? This pace deficit is surprising given his dominance over Hamilton in qualifying.
TedStriker wrote:I think this second place will hit Botttas hard. Hopefully his new found confidence will keep him focused but he will be frustrated both by the start and the apparent lack of pace compared to Lewis.
Lewis didn't benefit from "luck" in any way shape or form. He had the race won from the first corner and was never threatened at all. It's as if some people feel obligated to generate some sort of "luck" narrative every race...pokerman wrote:Yes I asked the same question how was Hamilton lucky when he had the race won anyway?JN23 wrote:Domination from Mercedes - Hamilton put pretty clear daylight between him and Bottas pre and post-safety car. I don't get why a few are saying Hamilton was lucky with the safety car, can someone enlighten me please?
A good drive from Verstappen and a solid drive from Gasly which might give him some confidence.
Ferrari are a shambles on the pit wall.
Not sure what the Haas drivers were playing at after the safety car, they've lost out on some points there.
Bad weekend for Alfa and RP.
His tyres were de-laminating before the SC came out and was destined for a stop.sandman1347 wrote:Lewis didn't benefit from "luck" in any way shape or form. He had the race won from the first corner and was never threatened at all. It's as if some people feel obligated to generate some sort of "luck" narrative every race...pokerman wrote:Yes I asked the same question how was Hamilton lucky when he had the race won anyway?JN23 wrote:Domination from Mercedes - Hamilton put pretty clear daylight between him and Bottas pre and post-safety car. I don't get why a few are saying Hamilton was lucky with the safety car, can someone enlighten me please?
A good drive from Verstappen and a solid drive from Gasly which might give him some confidence.
Ferrari are a shambles on the pit wall.
Not sure what the Haas drivers were playing at after the safety car, they've lost out on some points there.
Bad weekend for Alfa and RP.
Lol. That's an even more comedic spin. Yeah Lewis was in big trouble there...Rockie wrote:His tyres were de-laminating before the SC came out and was destined for a stop.sandman1347 wrote:Lewis didn't benefit from "luck" in any way shape or form. He had the race won from the first corner and was never threatened at all. It's as if some people feel obligated to generate some sort of "luck" narrative every race...pokerman wrote:Yes I asked the same question how was Hamilton lucky when he had the race won anyway?JN23 wrote:Domination from Mercedes - Hamilton put pretty clear daylight between him and Bottas pre and post-safety car. I don't get why a few are saying Hamilton was lucky with the safety car, can someone enlighten me please?
A good drive from Verstappen and a solid drive from Gasly which might give him some confidence.
Ferrari are a shambles on the pit wall.
Not sure what the Haas drivers were playing at after the safety car, they've lost out on some points there.
Bad weekend for Alfa and RP.
So to help Mercedes did a pitstop for Bottas when he didn't need it!
Did Rosberg actually do this or was it just speculation? I seem to remember it being mentioned with regard to 2014.Clarky wrote:He seems to have done a Rosberg and gone all out for Qualifying.Alienturnedhuman wrote:What is going on with Bottas? This pace deficit is surprising given his dominance over Hamilton in qualifying.
The 1 stop race wasn't on, Verstappen was confident that even Leclerc wouldn't be able to 1 stop using the hard tyres, Bottas would have been in severe tyre difficulties, the lap after it showed Hamilton's delaminating tyre he managed to do the same lap time as Bottas so Bottas' tyres were hardly any better.Rockie wrote:His tyres were de-laminating before the SC came out and was destined for a stop.sandman1347 wrote:Lewis didn't benefit from "luck" in any way shape or form. He had the race won from the first corner and was never threatened at all. It's as if some people feel obligated to generate some sort of "luck" narrative every race...pokerman wrote:Yes I asked the same question how was Hamilton lucky when he had the race won anyway?JN23 wrote:Domination from Mercedes - Hamilton put pretty clear daylight between him and Bottas pre and post-safety car. I don't get why a few are saying Hamilton was lucky with the safety car, can someone enlighten me please?
A good drive from Verstappen and a solid drive from Gasly which might give him some confidence.
Ferrari are a shambles on the pit wall.
Not sure what the Haas drivers were playing at after the safety car, they've lost out on some points there.
Bad weekend for Alfa and RP.
So to help Mercedes did a pitstop for Bottas when he didn't need it!
pokerman wrote:The 1 stop race wasn't on, Verstappen was confident that even Leclerc wouldn't be able to 1 stop using the hard tyres, Bottas would have been in severe tyre difficulties, the lap after it showed Hamilton's delaminating tyre he managed to do the same lap time as Bottas so Bottas' tyres were hardly any better.Rockie wrote:His tyres were de-laminating before the SC came out and was destined for a stop.sandman1347 wrote:Lewis didn't benefit from "luck" in any way shape or form. He had the race won from the first corner and was never threatened at all. It's as if some people feel obligated to generate some sort of "luck" narrative every race...pokerman wrote:Yes I asked the same question how was Hamilton lucky when he had the race won anyway?JN23 wrote:Domination from Mercedes - Hamilton put pretty clear daylight between him and Bottas pre and post-safety car. I don't get why a few are saying Hamilton was lucky with the safety car, can someone enlighten me please?
A good drive from Verstappen and a solid drive from Gasly which might give him some confidence.
Ferrari are a shambles on the pit wall.
Not sure what the Haas drivers were playing at after the safety car, they've lost out on some points there.
Bad weekend for Alfa and RP.
So to help Mercedes did a pitstop for Bottas when he didn't need it!
they definitely weren't, now that you mention it. I recall Dutch commentary saying he was bolting on a set of used tyres at the stop.BMWSauber84 wrote:Regarding Hamilton's pace after the safety car, I thought Bottas had used an extra set of softs in Q1. Is it possible his softs weren't fresh?
If I recall correctly, neither Merc had any fresh softs going into the race.Zoue wrote:they definitely weren't, now that you mention it. I recall Dutch commentary saying he was bolting on a set of used tyres at the stop.BMWSauber84 wrote:Regarding Hamilton's pace after the safety car, I thought Bottas had used an extra set of softs in Q1. Is it possible his softs weren't fresh?
Can anybody here explain what the luck was?Zoue wrote:I was just thinking the same . It's just uncanny!mikeyg123 wrote:Hamilton is so lucky Safety car will save his donkey.
I was wrong with what I initially wrote. I thought he was going to come out behind the Leclerc.FormulaFun wrote:Can anybody here explain what the luck was?Zoue wrote:I was just thinking the same . It's just uncanny!mikeyg123 wrote:Hamilton is so lucky Safety car will save his donkey.
They look pretty new in this pic:Zoue wrote:they definitely weren't, now that you mention it. I recall Dutch commentary saying he was bolting on a set of used tyres at the stop.BMWSauber84 wrote:Regarding Hamilton's pace after the safety car, I thought Bottas had used an extra set of softs in Q1. Is it possible his softs weren't fresh?
That is not Bottas nor Hamilton. Unless I'm seeing different things in my screenOption or Prime wrote:They look pretty new in this pic:Zoue wrote:they definitely weren't, now that you mention it. I recall Dutch commentary saying he was bolting on a set of used tyres at the stop.BMWSauber84 wrote:Regarding Hamilton's pace after the safety car, I thought Bottas had used an extra set of softs in Q1. Is it possible his softs weren't fresh?