2019 Spanish Grand Prix Race Thread

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sat May 11, 2019 2:01 pm

Please let tomorrow be a fun race. Fingers crossed!

Zoue · Post by **Zoue** » Sat May 11, 2019 2:04 pm

I think at the front it's difficult to see anything other than Mercedes disappearing over the horizon. The best we can hope for is a midfield battle I think. Disappointed in Ferrari who don't appear to have made any progress for all the upgrades they've bought, but well done to Merc for steamrollering on

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sat May 11, 2019 2:09 pm

Race start could be interesting tomorrow!

Ruste13 · Post by **Ruste13** » Sat May 11, 2019 2:11 pm

I was hoping Macca were going to be higher up....didnt they bring a heap of updates also?

Rockie · Post by **Rockie** » Sat May 11, 2019 2:33 pm

Zoue wrote:I think at the front it's difficult to see anything other than Mercedes disappearing over the horizon. The best we can hope for is a midfield battle I think. Disappointed in Ferrari who don't appear to have made any progress for all the upgrades they've bought, but well done to Merc for steamrollering on

If Vettel can make it into second place it might change for a bit!

:lol:

Zoue · Post by **Zoue** » Sat May 11, 2019 2:35 pm

Ruste13 wrote:I was hoping Macca were going to be higher up....didnt they bring a heap of updates also?

they apparently brought the most radical updates of anyone and completely changed their aero philosophy. Doesn't look to have made much of an impact so far but I can only assume they see more long-term potential in it

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sat May 11, 2019 3:51 pm

Pit stop strategies as per Pirelli:

(Quickest strategy) Two-stopper:
Start on the soft tyre for 22 laps, do another soft stint for 23 laps, then medium to the end.

Fastest one-stopper:
Start on the soft tyre for 27 laps (managing it carefully) and then switch to the hard until the finish.

Optional strategy:
Start on the medium for 30 laps, then switch to the hard for the final 36 laps.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sat May 11, 2019 3:55 pm

JN23 wrote:Race start could be interesting tomorrow!

If Hamilton gets the same kind of start as in Baku I think it might be elbows out this time?

Zoue · Post by **Zoue** » Sat May 11, 2019 3:56 pm

pokerman wrote:
JN23 wrote:Race start could be interesting tomorrow!

If Hamilton gets the same kind of start as in Baku I think it might be elbows out this time?

I suspect you may be right

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sat May 11, 2019 3:59 pm

Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
JN23 wrote:Race start could be interesting tomorrow!

If Hamilton gets the same kind of start as in Baku I think it might be elbows out this time?

I suspect you may be right

Me too, but not as much elbows out as 2016.

kleefton · Post by **kleefton** » Sat May 11, 2019 5:25 pm

Max vs the ferraris could be interesting. Hopefully the mercs can give a decent show between them throughout the race. But I am not too hopeful. Everything points to a borefest.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sat May 11, 2019 6:54 pm

Race sets available with all drivers:

Source - www.imgur.com

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sat May 11, 2019 7:50 pm

Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
JN23 wrote:Race start could be interesting tomorrow!

If Hamilton gets the same kind of start as in Baku I think it might be elbows out this time?

I suspect you may be right

If Bottas also gets a start that good, then I'm not sure! :lol:

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sat May 11, 2019 10:15 pm

JN23 wrote:
Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
JN23 wrote:Race start could be interesting tomorrow!

If Hamilton gets the same kind of start as in Baku I think it might be elbows out this time?

I suspect you may be right

Me too, but not as much elbows out as 2016.

That was Rosberg but let's not derail things.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sat May 11, 2019 10:17 pm

TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
JN23 wrote:Race start could be interesting tomorrow!

If Hamilton gets the same kind of start as in Baku I think it might be elbows out this time?

I suspect you may be right

If Bottas also gets a start that good, then I'm not sure!

Well so far this season the second placed car has started better every time.

Covalent · Post by **Covalent** » Sat May 11, 2019 10:45 pm

pokerman wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
JN23 wrote:Race start could be interesting tomorrow!

If Hamilton gets the same kind of start as in Baku I think it might be elbows out this time?

I suspect you may be right

If Bottas also gets a start that good, then I'm not sure!

Well so far this season the second placed car has started better every time.

That's actually quite interesting and odd.

Altair · Post by **Altair** » Sun May 12, 2019 2:05 am

Maybe the front runners crash into each other and we get a interesting race.

Fiki · Post by **Fiki** » Sun May 12, 2019 11:13 am

Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
JN23 wrote:Race start could be interesting tomorrow!

If Hamilton gets the same kind of start as in Baku I think it might be elbows out this time?

I suspect you may be right

As Bottas was ahead all the time, I wonder what he would do differently. He would be wrong to push Bottas wide, and would get a punishment if Charlie Whiting was right when he "clarified" this a few years ago.
I hope they both keep their racing as it should be; no contact and no running somebody off the track.

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun May 12, 2019 11:20 am

Race to turn 1 and then a procession to the finish line.

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun May 12, 2019 11:21 am

Hulkenberg starting from the pitlane. A bit embarrassing for Renault

Siao7 · Post by **Siao7** » Sun May 12, 2019 11:28 am

JN23 wrote:Hulkenberg starting from the pitlane. A bit embarrassing for Renault

I'd say idiotic from them not to report the change of the wing in accordance to the park ferme regs. Shot themselves on the foot there. Hulk must be fuming

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun May 12, 2019 11:49 am

And Hulk is now taking a new PU as there's no penalty with him already in the pit lane.

Covalent · Post by **Covalent** » Sun May 12, 2019 11:49 am

Starting from pole in this race seems to be a huge disadvantage because of the long run to T1, I fear Bottas will have to have a better start than Lewis and Vettel to keep P1.

Zoue · Post by **Zoue** » Sun May 12, 2019 11:50 am

JN23 wrote:And Hulk is now taking a new PU as there's no penalty with him already in the pit lane.

I thought he already had a new PU?

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun May 12, 2019 12:13 pm

Zoue wrote:
JN23 wrote:And Hulk is now taking a new PU as there's no penalty with him already in the pit lane.

I thought he already had a new PU?

I think it's adding another one to the pool, so when he changes the PU next time, there won't be a penalty.

shoot999 · Post by **shoot999** » Sun May 12, 2019 12:37 pm

Fiki wrote:
Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
JN23 wrote:Race start could be interesting tomorrow!

If Hamilton gets the same kind of start as in Baku I think it might be elbows out this time?

I suspect you may be right
As Bottas was ahead all the time, I wonder what he would do differently. He would be wrong to push Bottas wide, and would get a punishment if Charlie Whiting was right when he "clarified" this a few years ago.
I hope they both keep their racing as it should be; no contact and no running somebody off the track.

I'm guessing they will; as Its Dr Z farewell race.

https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/statu ... gr%5Etweet

purchville · Post by **purchville** » Sun May 12, 2019 12:38 pm

Tactical error from RIC making it into the top 10 during Q. The 3 place grid drop sees him surrounded by competitors with a free choice of fresh tyres. Expecting him to go backwards quickly.

Disaster for the other Renault too, starting from the pitlane.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun May 12, 2019 1:04 pm

Altair wrote:Maybe the front runners crash into each other and we get a interesting race.

I prefer that no one crashes into anyone.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun May 12, 2019 1:05 pm

Fiki wrote:
Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
JN23 wrote:Race start could be interesting tomorrow!

If Hamilton gets the same kind of start as in Baku I think it might be elbows out this time?

I suspect you may be right
As Bottas was ahead all the time, I wonder what he would do differently. He would be wrong to push Bottas wide, and would get a punishment if Charlie Whiting was right when he "clarified" this a few years ago.
I hope they both keep their racing as it should be; no contact and no running somebody off the track.

Hamilton was fully alongside Bottas any other driver and he wouldn't have been so concerned about the them having to back off for the barrier.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun May 12, 2019 1:06 pm

F1_Ernie wrote:Race to turn 1 and then a procession to the finish line.

Well at least it's one track they are getting rid of.

Zoue · Post by **Zoue** » Sun May 12, 2019 1:09 pm

pokerman wrote:
F1_Ernie wrote:Race to turn 1 and then a procession to the finish line.

Well at least it's one track they are getting rid of.

I hear that may not actually be the case

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun May 12, 2019 1:10 pm

pokerman wrote:
F1_Ernie wrote:Race to turn 1 and then a procession to the finish line.

Well at least it's one track they are getting rid of.

Really?

Zoue · Post by **Zoue** » Sun May 12, 2019 1:11 pm

pokerman wrote:
Fiki wrote:
Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
JN23 wrote:Race start could be interesting tomorrow!

If Hamilton gets the same kind of start as in Baku I think it might be elbows out this time?

I suspect you may be right
As Bottas was ahead all the time, I wonder what he would do differently. He would be wrong to push Bottas wide, and would get a punishment if Charlie Whiting was right when he "clarified" this a few years ago.
I hope they both keep their racing as it should be; no contact and no running somebody off the track.

Hamilton was fully alongside Bottas any other driver and he wouldn't have been so concerned about the them having to back off for the barrier.

Not sure that's something to be proud of, tbh. Forcing a situation where the other driver has to decide to quit or crash is not something I'd recommend

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sun May 12, 2019 1:14 pm

excellent start by Hamilton

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun May 12, 2019 1:16 pm

Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Fiki wrote:
Zoue wrote:
pokerman wrote:If Hamilton gets the same kind of start as in Baku I think it might be elbows out this time?

I suspect you may be right
As Bottas was ahead all the time, I wonder what he would do differently. He would be wrong to push Bottas wide, and would get a punishment if Charlie Whiting was right when he "clarified" this a few years ago.
I hope they both keep their racing as it should be; no contact and no running somebody off the track.

Hamilton was fully alongside Bottas any other driver and he wouldn't have been so concerned about the them having to back off for the barrier.
Not sure that's something to be proud of, tbh. Forcing a situation where the other driver has to decide to quit or crash is not something I'd recommend

It's what drivers do when they have got position for the corner, the start was as predicted, better to start second and Hamilton got his elbows out.

F1Tyrant · Post by **F1Tyrant** » Sun May 12, 2019 1:18 pm

Bottas needs to chase Hamilton all the way to the finish if he wants the belief that he can beat Hamilton to this title.

Zoue · Post by **Zoue** » Sun May 12, 2019 1:19 pm

great start by Max looking at the replays. Went from 5th to 3rd in the blink of an eye

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sun May 12, 2019 1:24 pm

come on Ferrari if Leclerc is faster than vettel then release him

Zoue · Post by **Zoue** » Sun May 12, 2019 1:24 pm

Vettel dropping back from Max quite quickly. What has happened to his race pace this year?

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun May 12, 2019 1:25 pm

Leclerc faster