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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 11:11 am
by pokerman
UnlikeUday wrote:FP3 done:

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Ferrari used a lot of softs and no run on the mediums, unusual?

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 11:14 am
by UnlikeUday
Maybe this updated part of the bargeboard made Haas as competitive as Red Bull:

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Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 11:15 am
by Zoue
UnlikeUday wrote:Maybe this updated part of the bargeboard made Haas as competitive as Red Bull:

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that looks insanely complicated!

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 12:11 pm
by Zoue
According to one report Mercedes are gaining up to 4 tenths in the final sector alone. That's monstrous!

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 12:12 pm
by Clarky
Zoue wrote:According to one report Mercedes are gaining up to 4 tenths in the final sector alone. That's monstrous!
Hamilton quickest lap was 5/10's is S3.

Seems Mercedes are dominate in the cooler temps there as well.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 12:35 pm
by JN23
Zoue wrote:According to one report Mercedes are gaining up to 4 tenths in the final sector alone. That's monstrous!
Looks good for them in Monaco in two weeks.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 12:35 pm
by JN23
Few drops of rain in the pit lane!

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:22 pm
by Jezza13
Renault should hang their heads in shame at the way they've started this season.

Gone from 4th best to maybe 7th or 8th.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:24 pm
by Zoue
Jezza13 wrote:Renault should hang their heads in shame at the way they've started this season.

Gone from 4th best to maybe 7th or 8th.
yeah they should at least be beating their customer but they're some 6 tenths behind

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:26 pm
by TheGiantHogweed
Kubica looking very poor. 1.2 seconds behind Russle. we say Stroll is poor and he isn't even 2 tenths behind Perez. I really don't know if williams will keep him the whole season. I know Williams is bad, but I don't think there has been a weaker driver in F1 for quite some years. Given what he has been through, that does make me change my view a bit, but ignoring that and looking at his performance, it just doesn't look good enough.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:27 pm
by Zoue
TheGiantHogweed wrote:Kubica looking very poor. 1.2 seconds behind Russle. we say Stroll is poor and he isn't even 2 tenths behind Perez. I really don't know if williams will keep him the whole season. I know Williams is bad, but I don't think there has been a weaker driver in F1 for quite some years. Given what he has been through, that does make me change my view a bit, but ignoring that and looking at his performance, it just doesn't look good enough.
I'd have to agree he doesn't look like he belongs at the moment

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:34 pm
by Zoue
So Ric just did a 1:17.3 so what on earth were Renault playing at coasting in Q1? That's a full second faster than either Renault's Q1 time?

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:39 pm
by kleefton
TheGiantHogweed wrote:Kubica looking very poor. 1.2 seconds behind Russle. we say Stroll is poor and he isn't even 2 tenths behind Perez. I really don't know if williams will keep him the whole season. I know Williams is bad, but I don't think there has been a weaker driver in F1 for quite some years. Given what he has been through, that does make me change my view a bit, but ignoring that and looking at his performance, it just doesn't look good enough.
I believe they switched their chassis as he was complaining about them not being equal. But He’s even further behind. Nowhere to hide now. Ocon in the car by the summer is a possibility.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:42 pm
by Zoue
Damn, both McLaren's out

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:44 pm
by Jezza13
Zoue wrote:
Jezza13 wrote:Renault should hang their heads in shame at the way they've started this season.

Gone from 4th best to maybe 7th or 8th.
yeah they should at least be beating their customer but they're some 6 tenths behind
Well in the end Ricciardo ended up 3/10's quicker than the quickest McLaren but it's still not good enough from a factory team with the resources they have at their disposal.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:45 pm
by UnlikeUday
kleefton wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:Kubica looking very poor. 1.2 seconds behind Russle. we say Stroll is poor and he isn't even 2 tenths behind Perez. I really don't know if williams will keep him the whole season. I know Williams is bad, but I don't think there has been a weaker driver in F1 for quite some years. Given what he has been through, that does make me change my view a bit, but ignoring that and looking at his performance, it just doesn't look good enough.
I believe they switched their chassis as he was complaining about them not being equal. But He’s even further behind. Nowhere to hide now. Ocon in the car by the summer is a possibility.
There was a supposed rumour Kubica would be replaced by Latifi before the season ends. Kubica is sadly struggling.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:47 pm
by Zoue
Jezza13 wrote:
Zoue wrote:
Jezza13 wrote:Renault should hang their heads in shame at the way they've started this season.

Gone from 4th best to maybe 7th or 8th.
yeah they should at least be beating their customer but they're some 6 tenths behind
Well in the end Ricciardo ended up 3/10's quicker than the quickest McLaren but it's still not good enough from a factory team with the resources they have at their disposal.
Agreed. They look to have really messed up in Q1 too because clearly they'd turned things down too much and nearly had both cars out

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:49 pm
by Zoue
kleefton wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:Kubica looking very poor. 1.2 seconds behind Russle. we say Stroll is poor and he isn't even 2 tenths behind Perez. I really don't know if williams will keep him the whole season. I know Williams is bad, but I don't think there has been a weaker driver in F1 for quite some years. Given what he has been through, that does make me change my view a bit, but ignoring that and looking at his performance, it just doesn't look good enough.
I believe they switched their chassis as he was complaining about them not being equal. But He’s even further behind. Nowhere to hide now. Ocon in the car by the summer is a possibility.
I read that somewhere too. If they keep him it's looking like the reasons must be financial

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:49 pm
by mikeyg123
UnlikeUday wrote:
kleefton wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:Kubica looking very poor. 1.2 seconds behind Russle. we say Stroll is poor and he isn't even 2 tenths behind Perez. I really don't know if williams will keep him the whole season. I know Williams is bad, but I don't think there has been a weaker driver in F1 for quite some years. Given what he has been through, that does make me change my view a bit, but ignoring that and looking at his performance, it just doesn't look good enough.
I believe they switched their chassis as he was complaining about them not being equal. But He’s even further behind. Nowhere to hide now. Ocon in the car by the summer is a possibility.
There was a supposed rumour Kubica would be replaced by Latifi before the season ends. Kubica is sadly struggling.
Latifi doesn't have the licence points so that's a non starter. I don't see Williams replacing Kubica unless there is a financial incentive to. Him being a second behind Russell costs them nothing whilst they are miles off the pace.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:49 pm
by Zoue
Oops looks like an issue with Leclerc's car

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:52 pm
by Zoue
Holy...?

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:53 pm
by JN23
Zoue wrote:Holy...?
Not Hamilton's best lap but I think Bottas has the pace on him here, again.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:54 pm
by kleefton
Damn bottas!

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:55 pm
by Zoue
JN23 wrote:
Zoue wrote:Holy...?
Not Hamilton's best lap but I think Bottas has the pace on him here, again.
Hamilton has a penchant for fighting back in qualifying to be fair. He's pretty reliable in that regard

The time they gain in the final sector is unreal.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:58 pm
by Zoue
wow Leclerc no higher than P5...

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 1:58 pm
by Badger36
Not really sure why Ferrari have sent Leclerc out so early here?

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:01 pm
by JN23
I'm actually starting to find Hamilton's struggles* compared to Bottas quite bizzare.

*I know they aren't really struggles in the grand scheme of things.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:01 pm
by Zoue
Zoue wrote:
JN23 wrote:
Zoue wrote:Holy...?
Not Hamilton's best lap but I think Bottas has the pace on him here, again.
Hamilton has a penchant for fighting back in qualifying to be fair. He's pretty reliable in that regard

The time they gain in the final sector is unreal.
I stand corrected! Bottas can be pretty proud of that one I think. 6 tenths on Hamilton is no mean feat

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:01 pm
by Black_Flag_11
Wow, incredible from Bottas and Verstappen.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:03 pm
by pokerman
Hamilton beaten easily by Bottas

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:05 pm
by Mayox
Over 0,6 sec.... it's a KO tbh and it's 3 in a row now...

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:05 pm
by mikeyg123
Verstappen is an animal of a driver. The driver of 2019 so far and the fastest out there right now IMO.

In other news is Leclerc being a bit overblown? All the hype but he's only really beaten Vettel once so far. He's good but certainly no Ricciardo.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:06 pm
by Zoue
pokerman wrote:Hamilton beaten easily by Bottas
he didn't manage to string a lap together, to be fair. I don't think it's reflective of ultimate pace.

It's rare for Hamilton to mess up in qualifying. I think he's allowed one poor Saturday! :twisted:

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:06 pm
by Steve_muzzy
Wow. Did not expect that. 6 tenths is forever...

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:08 pm
by Zoue
mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen is an animal of a driver. The driver of 2019 so far and the fastest out there right now IMO.

In other news is Leclerc being a bit overblown? All the hype but he's only really beaten Vettel once so far. He's good but certainly no Ricciardo.
I think Russel deserves a shout, too. It's the closest any Williams has been to another car and he completely trounced his team mate

Leclerc messed up my two by two prediction :evil: . To be fair to him he's this is the first time Vettel looks to have outclassed him I think?

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:11 pm
by Rockie
The quicker Pirelli get out of F1 the better, just a 2 degree temperature drop.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:14 pm
by Rockie
mikeyg123 wrote:Verstappen is an animal of a driver. The driver of 2019 so far and the fastest out there right now IMO.

In other news is Leclerc being a bit overblown? All the hype but he's only really beaten Vettel once so far. He's good but certainly no Ricciardo.
This is due to Gasly and nothing else, if Ricciardo was still in the other car it wont look abnormal the Redbull car is exactly where it is supposed to be!

Where would you put Bottas then?

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:15 pm
by UnlikeUday
Rockie wrote:The quicker Pirelli get out of F1 the better, just a 2 degree temperature drop.
Yeah. No one improved on their last runs. All were about 1/2 second slower, mainly through the 3rd sector.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:15 pm
by kleefton
Bottas really smashed Hamilton here. He’s been so impressive so far. Looks like Lewis may have a real battle on his hands. Ferrari is no longer a contender for the title in my book. I think Rosberg was right when he said their concept lacks downforce. It’s doubtful they will be able to find enough downforce throughout the yea while merc won’t be standing still. Disappointing for the sport but you’ve gotta give it up for Merc as they have produced another phenomenal car again after yet another regulation change. Unbelievable. Kudos to Max who continues to punch above his weight, and Vettel for outclassing Leclerc here. That race has all the ingredients to be an absolute borefest but I hope Lewis finds a way past, although I must say it’s going to be impossible if he doesn’t do it at the start.

Re: 2019 Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa

Posted: Sat May 11, 2019 2:16 pm
by UnlikeUday
Why do I feel tomorrow's race might be the most boring race of the season.