Driver(s) of the Day - 2019 Azerbaijan Grand Prix
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 1:48 pm
For me,
Bottas, Kimi & Perez
Bottas, Kimi & Perez
Jezza13 wrote:No it wasn't me who voted for Riccardo
It was me who voted for Riccardo.Jezza13 wrote:No it wasn't me who voted for Riccardo
wasn't just that error, to be fair. Reversing back onto the race track without looking in your mirrors has got to be one of the dumbest things imaginable.BMWSauber84 wrote:Ricciardo would have been a contender for DOTD without that error. He had comfortably left the Hulk behind. Alas that reckless divebomb spoiled it for him.
Yeah that's worthy of a penalty at the next race IMO.Zoue wrote:wasn't just that error, to be fair. Reversing back onto the race track without looking in your mirrors has got to be one of the dumbest things imaginable.BMWSauber84 wrote:Ricciardo would have been a contender for DOTD without that error. He had comfortably left the Hulk behind. Alas that reckless divebomb spoiled it for him.
A three place grid penalty to be exact.Jezza13 wrote:Yeah that's worthy of a penalty at the next race IMO.Zoue wrote:wasn't just that error, to be fair. Reversing back onto the race track without looking in your mirrors has got to be one of the dumbest things imaginable.BMWSauber84 wrote:Ricciardo would have been a contender for DOTD without that error. He had comfortably left the Hulk behind. Alas that reckless divebomb spoiled it for him.
I thought Max was brilliant, he's just been putting in quiet but stellar performances this season.Mercedes-Benz wrote:I voted for Max, Perez and Kimi.
I think Max lost lot of time in soft tyres and for some reason RBR did not go for undercut. He was only 5secs off Vettel in the end. His pits was 1sec slower to Vettel. Vettel pitted on 11th lap and he pitted on 14th lap so that did not help either.
Agree on Bottas and Perez. I'd not have Kimi in there. He got lucky with Ric and Kvyat incident and then Gasly retiring at the end of the race.mcdo wrote:Bottas, Perez, Kimi - pits to points was a great result
True, although he'd made solid progress before that to be fair.Desert Storm wrote:Agree on Bottas and Perez. I'd not have Kimi in there. He got lucky with Ric and Kvyat incident and then Gasly retiring at the end of the race.mcdo wrote:Bottas, Perez, Kimi - pits to points was a great result
The Alfa was pretty quick down the main straight, and early on in the race, Di Resta mentioned that Kimi hit 352 Kph, but he seemed to take forever to pass the Renaults and Haas'. I thought he'd be quickly behind the Maccas after his early stop, but he got passed by Ric and Stroll, and was dropping time to those ahead. Lucky to score a point today.Zoue wrote:True, although he'd made solid progress before that to be fair.Desert Storm wrote:Agree on Bottas and Perez. I'd not have Kimi in there. He got lucky with Ric and Kvyat incident and then Gasly retiring at the end of the race.mcdo wrote:Bottas, Perez, Kimi - pits to points was a great result
Apparently that's what he's getting.Jezza13 wrote:Yeah that's worthy of a penalty at the next race IMO.Zoue wrote:wasn't just that error, to be fair. Reversing back onto the race track without looking in your mirrors has got to be one of the dumbest things imaginable.BMWSauber84 wrote:Ricciardo would have been a contender for DOTD without that error. He had comfortably left the Hulk behind. Alas that reckless divebomb spoiled it for him.
TheGiantHogweed wrote:The votes for Leclerc are getting a bit silly now if I'm honest. Are people just voting because he's known to have been very impressive overall this season? He finished nearly 60 seconds behind vettel who didn't have a great race.... That is a considerable distance.
Take away the pit stop and give him back a generous 25 seconds, that would still be around 35 seconds behind. Take away another generous 15 or so for a slightly strange strategy and the fact he wasn't always pushing. That is still no less than 15 seconds behind Vettel. He crashed in qualifying and was very lucky to start 8th rather than 10th and was also lucky to avoid any penalties given the amount of damage he caused.
He started just 5 places behind Vettel and had the 2nd fastest car on a track that is possibly one of the easiest of the year to overtake on. And even if he hadn't pitted for fastest lap, it is still very likely he will have been over 30 seconds behind Vettel. Voting for Leclerc today would be like having far more votes for Bottas over Hamilton in Bahrain. Other than that Leclerc was far worse than Bottas was then this weekend. I just don't understand the votee for Leclerc at all. They just seem automatic sometimes. I guess it was maybe one of these things where no matter what you drive, making up positions by overtakes that are higher than you started trigger multiple votes here. In what way was he better than Verstappen, Hamilton or Vettel? All have a lot less votes than Leclerc.
He did struggle for pace on the softs but it has to be said he lost a lot of time under the VSC, could have been over 15 seconds IIRC.Zoue wrote:TheGiantHogweed wrote:The votes for Leclerc are getting a bit silly now if I'm honest. Are people just voting because he's known to have been very impressive overall this season? He finished nearly 60 seconds behind vettel who didn't have a great race.... That is a considerable distance.
Take away the pit stop and give him back a generous 25 seconds, that would still be around 35 seconds behind. Take away another generous 15 or so for a slightly strange strategy and the fact he wasn't always pushing. That is still no less than 15 seconds behind Vettel. He crashed in qualifying and was very lucky to start 8th rather than 10th and was also lucky to avoid any penalties given the amount of damage he caused.
He started just 5 places behind Vettel and had the 2nd fastest car on a track that is possibly one of the easiest of the year to overtake on. And even if he hadn't pitted for fastest lap, it is still very likely he will have been over 30 seconds behind Vettel. Voting for Leclerc today would be like having far more votes for Bottas over Hamilton in Bahrain. Other than that Leclerc was far worse than Bottas was then this weekend. I just don't understand the votee for Leclerc at all. They just seem automatic sometimes. I guess it was maybe one of these things where no matter what you drive, making up positions by overtakes that are higher than you started trigger multiple votes here. In what way was he better than Verstappen, Hamilton or Vettel? All have a lot less votes than Leclerc.
like I wrote above I suspect the votes for Leclerc are driven more by emotion than actual performance. As you've written nothing he did on Sunday warrants placing him above those who finished ahead of him
It was over 30s before he went in for new boots. I don't see him closing that down to 15s tbh with you. The Softs just didn't last that long so I think he would have struggledBlack_Flag_11 wrote:He did struggle for pace on the softs but it has to be said he lost a lot of time under the VSC, could have been over 15 seconds IIRC.Zoue wrote:TheGiantHogweed wrote:The votes for Leclerc are getting a bit silly now if I'm honest. Are people just voting because he's known to have been very impressive overall this season? He finished nearly 60 seconds behind vettel who didn't have a great race.... That is a considerable distance.
Take away the pit stop and give him back a generous 25 seconds, that would still be around 35 seconds behind. Take away another generous 15 or so for a slightly strange strategy and the fact he wasn't always pushing. That is still no less than 15 seconds behind Vettel. He crashed in qualifying and was very lucky to start 8th rather than 10th and was also lucky to avoid any penalties given the amount of damage he caused.
He started just 5 places behind Vettel and had the 2nd fastest car on a track that is possibly one of the easiest of the year to overtake on. And even if he hadn't pitted for fastest lap, it is still very likely he will have been over 30 seconds behind Vettel. Voting for Leclerc today would be like having far more votes for Bottas over Hamilton in Bahrain. Other than that Leclerc was far worse than Bottas was then this weekend. I just don't understand the votee for Leclerc at all. They just seem automatic sometimes. I guess it was maybe one of these things where no matter what you drive, making up positions by overtakes that are higher than you started trigger multiple votes here. In what way was he better than Verstappen, Hamilton or Vettel? All have a lot less votes than Leclerc.
like I wrote above I suspect the votes for Leclerc are driven more by emotion than actual performance. As you've written nothing he did on Sunday warrants placing him above those who finished ahead of him
Perez was again in a spot where if any of the front runners made a mistake, he would grab the opportunity for the podium. is pace during the first four laps was great as well. Kuddos to him & Max for keeping it clean & giving each other space during the 1st two turns on the opening lap.mikeyg123 wrote:Perez doing Perez things is now back winning Formula 1.5. The Racing Point isn't the best car in that midfield either.
It's Baku, anything can happen and you have to be in it to win it. The last two GP wins there were decided by luck. Keep it clean, get yourself in the best position to benefit and see what happens. And despite starting from the pitlane Kimi legitimately beat his teammate, a Toro Rosso, a Haas, a Renault (and Russell). It gets a vote from meDesert Storm wrote:Agree on Bottas and Perez. I'd not have Kimi in there. He got lucky with Ric and Kvyat incident and then Gasly retiring at the end of the race.mcdo wrote:Bottas, Perez, Kimi - pits to points was a great result
Won't disagree with this. I could understand someone voting for Hamilton as well as for Bottas as part of a top three - but not above. Bottas beat Hamilton on merit, simple as.Blinky McSquinty wrote:Bottas and Perez.
Bottas was under pressure every lap, yet he drove a darn good race. He beat his team mate in every category (so just why in heck did someone vote for Hamilton?). If Leclerc was not in a position to get new tires and shoot for fastest lap, he would have also captured that too.
Perez was a beast today, incredibly impressive.
I'm guessing Randine.Jezza13 wrote:No it wasn't me who voted for Riccardo
lol - if he'd made the overtake on DK - and got 10th or 9th maybeJezza13 wrote:No it wasn't me who voted for Riccardo
People are given 3 votes, Bottas fractionally beat Hamilton in every category and the reason Bottas was under pressure was because of Hamilton yet seemingly we want to portray Hamilton has having driven so poorly to not warrant a vote?Blinky McSquinty wrote:Bottas and Perez.
Bottas was under pressure every lap, yet he drove a darn good race. He beat his team mate in every category (so just why in heck did someone vote for Hamilton?). If Leclerc was not in a position to get new tires and shoot for fastest lap, he would have also captured that too.
Perez was a beast today, incredibly impressive.
I think using the word "poorly" gives the wrong impression. You don't have to have driven poorly in order not to get a vote. But DotD is supposed to be about special performances. Hamilton couldn't make an impression on Bottas and didn't really do anything of note, so it's a little difficult to see what was so impressive to warrant DotD.pokerman wrote:People are given 3 votes, Bottas fractionally beat Hamilton in every category and the reason Bottas was under pressure was because of Hamilton yet seemingly we want to portray Hamilton has having driven so poorly to not warrant a vote?Blinky McSquinty wrote:Bottas and Perez.
Bottas was under pressure every lap, yet he drove a darn good race. He beat his team mate in every category (so just why in heck did someone vote for Hamilton?). If Leclerc was not in a position to get new tires and shoot for fastest lap, he would have also captured that too.
Perez was a beast today, incredibly impressive.
Bottas and Hamilton were close to equal, that in itself asks what was special about what Bottas did when Hamilton himself shouldn't have been considered to be in the top 3?Zoue wrote:I think using the word "poorly" gives the wrong impression. You don't have to have driven poorly in order not to get a vote. But DotD is supposed to be about special performances. Hamilton couldn't make an impression on Bottas and didn't really do anything of note, so it's a little difficult to see what was so impressive to warrant DotD.pokerman wrote:People are given 3 votes, Bottas fractionally beat Hamilton in every category and the reason Bottas was under pressure was because of Hamilton yet seemingly we want to portray Hamilton has having driven so poorly to not warrant a vote?Blinky McSquinty wrote:Bottas and Perez.
Bottas was under pressure every lap, yet he drove a darn good race. He beat his team mate in every category (so just why in heck did someone vote for Hamilton?). If Leclerc was not in a position to get new tires and shoot for fastest lap, he would have also captured that too.
Perez was a beast today, incredibly impressive.
He's not the only one, mind. Can't really see what Leclerc did to merit any votes, either, while Gasly seems to be getting votes simply for not being humiliated for once
Not sure I’m seeing this angst? Was a single comment as far as I can seepokerman wrote:Bottas and Hamilton were close to equal, that in itself asks what was special about what Bottas did when Hamilton himself shouldn't have been considered to be in the top 3?Zoue wrote:I think using the word "poorly" gives the wrong impression. You don't have to have driven poorly in order not to get a vote. But DotD is supposed to be about special performances. Hamilton couldn't make an impression on Bottas and didn't really do anything of note, so it's a little difficult to see what was so impressive to warrant DotD.pokerman wrote:People are given 3 votes, Bottas fractionally beat Hamilton in every category and the reason Bottas was under pressure was because of Hamilton yet seemingly we want to portray Hamilton has having driven so poorly to not warrant a vote?Blinky McSquinty wrote:Bottas and Perez.
Bottas was under pressure every lap, yet he drove a darn good race. He beat his team mate in every category (so just why in heck did someone vote for Hamilton?). If Leclerc was not in a position to get new tires and shoot for fastest lap, he would have also captured that too.
Perez was a beast today, incredibly impressive.
He's not the only one, mind. Can't really see what Leclerc did to merit any votes, either, while Gasly seems to be getting votes simply for not being humiliated for once
As it happens Bottas has 27 votes to just the 2 of Hamilton, maybe a couple of people voted for both so why the angst, also like you say Leclerc has 11 votes for doing very little but the problem is just with Hamilton and then there's the unfortunate posting history.