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Filip wrote:Link the source, where, when he said it.

Zoue wrote:

Filip wrote:Link the source, where, when he said it.

Look halfway up the page. It's there

Filip wrote:

Zoue wrote:

Filip wrote:Link the source, where, when he said it.

Look halfway up the page. It's there

Well in articile there, there is no Kubica saying anything about silencing anybody.

pokerman wrote:

mcdo wrote:

pokerman wrote:

mcdo wrote:

Mort Canard wrote:Q1 at Baku. Kubica the wall!!
Doubters 1, Kubica 0.

Time for your Leclerc doubter stats now too

Well at least Leclerc was fast before he crashed, Kubica yet again trailing his teammate.

All well and good but IMO Leclerc cost Ferrari the entire weekend. Qualy got pushed out later, the temps changed and suddenly Vettel couldn't run as fast as the Mercs anymore. He also had to switch from their preferred medium tyre to the soft to get through Q2. And here we are another Merc 1-2 later

True but who would you sign Leclerc or Kubica?

DOLOMITE wrote:So 1) Claire Williams saying there was never a proven difference in the floor/chassis, 2) Russel now driving the chassis Kubica drove for the first 4 races and he's still quicker. Kubica really needs to start to turn this round.

pokerman wrote:

DOLOMITE wrote:So 1) Claire Williams saying there was never a proven difference in the floor/chassis, 2) Russel now driving the chassis Kubica drove for the first 4 races and he's still quicker. Kubica really needs to start to turn this round.

Yeah any excuses are fast running out.

Mort Canard wrote:Another Q1 and another race. George Russell outperformed Robert in both. What is it going to take for Kubica to outperform someone at something that matters this year????

sandman1347 wrote:

Mort Canard wrote:Another Q1 and another race. George Russell outperformed Robert in both. What is it going to take for Kubica to outperform someone at something that matters this year????

He can't. Robert Kubica is no longer an F1-caliber driver IMO. Shame that Ocon is not in that seat...

Jenson's Understeer wrote:The fairytale is, sadly, over. It was a great story and he's done phenomenally well to come back to F1, but the simple truth is he's just not quick enough. I'd also add that of the two drivers, Russell has been much, much more measured and composed with the comments he's made outside the car; Kubica has been the more critical and has been offering more excuses. After 2019 that'll be it for his F1 career - he'll probably go to Ferrari or somewhere in a support role, but he's not going to be racing again in F1 after the end of the year.

Altair wrote:Kubica make me sad because JV was finally right for once.

Jenson's Understeer wrote:The fairytale is, sadly, over. It was a great story and he's done phenomenally well to come back to F1, but the simple truth is he's just not quick enough. I'd also add that of the two drivers, Russell has been much, much more measured and composed with the comments he's made outside the car; Kubica has been the more critical and has been offering more excuses. After 2019 that'll be it for his F1 career - he'll probably go to Ferrari or somewhere in a support role, but he's not going to be racing again in F1 after the end of the year.

Mayox wrote:It's not that easy now... Williams is selling the seats for sponsor money so they can't decide alone... They actually signed complicated and combined big deal with Orlen. Orlen is a polish petrol concern that has absolutely zero interest in sponsoring Williams without Kubica in the seat. It's possible though that they will agree on termination somehow as Orlen is also totally upset about Williams and it's embarrassing for them. From what I know it's a 2 years deal, don't think it will be terminated during the season but probably will be after the 2019... There is no hope for Williams for next season anyway as they already looking at the 2021 regulation change and will not even try next year.
And in fact... for Williams it's really no difference who is in the seat, even Hamilton wouldn't score a single point in this car so they will let Kubica end the season and take the money instead of paying compensation. After all it will be good PR as they will say they gave him a real full season chance instead of dropping him after few bad races

SteveW wrote:I honestly still believe he deserved a chance to race again after all his hard work to get back into an F1 car. To make it to the grid again after all that he's been through is an achievement in itself and something he should be incredibly proud of.

But now, someone at Williams needs to make the tough call to take him out of a race seat and back into the reserve driver position I think. IF (and I know it's a massive if this season) Williams manage to make their car more competitive this year, I think Kubica will begin to hold them back even more......

I don't think there should be any regrets from Robert or the Williams team for giving him a chance, but they need to now bite the bullet and admit that it's not looking like it's working and do something about it.

Mayox wrote:It's not that easy now... Williams is selling the seats for sponsor money so they can't decide alone... They actually signed complicated and combined big deal with Orlen. Orlen is a polish petrol concern that has absolutely zero interest in sponsoring Williams without Kubica in the seat. It's possible though that they will agree on termination somehow as Orlen is also totally upset about Williams and it's embarrassing for them. From what I know it's a 2 years deal, don't think it will be terminated during the season but probably will be after the 2019... There is no hope for Williams for next season anyway as they already looking at the 2021 regulation change and will not even try next year.
And in fact... for Williams it's really no difference who is in the seat, even Hamilton wouldn't score a single point in this car so they will let Kubica end the season and take the money instead of paying compensation. After all it will be good PR as they will say they gave him a real full season chance instead of dropping him after few bad races

pokerman wrote:

SteveW wrote:I honestly still believe he deserved a chance to race again after all his hard work to get back into an F1 car. To make it to the grid again after all that he's been through is an achievement in itself and something he should be incredibly proud of.

But now, someone at Williams needs to make the tough call to take him out of a race seat and back into the reserve driver position I think. IF (and I know it's a massive if this season) Williams manage to make their car more competitive this year, I think Kubica will begin to hold them back even more......

I don't think there should be any regrets from Robert or the Williams team for giving him a chance, but they need to now bite the bullet and admit that it's not looking like it's working and do something about it.

I don't believe Williams can do that because Kubica's sponsors paid for the seat?

pokerman wrote:

Mayox wrote:It's not that easy now... Williams is selling the seats for sponsor money so they can't decide alone... They actually signed complicated and combined big deal with Orlen. Orlen is a polish petrol concern that has absolutely zero interest in sponsoring Williams without Kubica in the seat. It's possible though that they will agree on termination somehow as Orlen is also totally upset about Williams and it's embarrassing for them. From what I know it's a 2 years deal, don't think it will be terminated during the season but probably will be after the 2019... There is no hope for Williams for next season anyway as they already looking at the 2021 regulation change and will not even try next year.
And in fact... for Williams it's really no difference who is in the seat, even Hamilton wouldn't score a single point in this car so they will let Kubica end the season and take the money instead of paying compensation. After all it will be good PR as they will say they gave him a real full season chance instead of dropping him after few bad races

Can Williams afford to turn away the money, they would need to find another pay driver first?

DOLOMITE wrote:All that said, the sad fact is now, even if you stuck Alonso in Kubica's seat, they'd still be 18/19/20 just in a different order. So in defense of Kubica he's definitely not Williams biggest probelm right now and if he's as smart and great to work with as most articles suggest I guess it's better the devil you know for now.

mcdo wrote:

DOLOMITE wrote:All that said, the sad fact is now, even if you stuck Alonso in Kubica's seat, they'd still be 18/19/20 just in a different order. So in defense of Kubica he's definitely not Williams biggest probelm right now and if he's as smart and great to work with as most articles suggest I guess it's better the devil you know for now.

Remember all that talk of Stroll moving to Force India mid-2018? And one of the interesting aspects of the rumoured move was that the Strolls wanted to bring Kubica with them. I'd love to know if there was any truth to that one

Mayox wrote:

mcdo wrote:

DOLOMITE wrote:All that said, the sad fact is now, even if you stuck Alonso in Kubica's seat, they'd still be 18/19/20 just in a different order. So in defense of Kubica he's definitely not Williams biggest probelm right now and if he's as smart and great to work with as most articles suggest I guess it's better the devil you know for now.

Remember all that talk of Stroll moving to Force India mid-2018? And one of the interesting aspects of the rumoured move was that the Strolls wanted to bring Kubica with them. I'd love to know if there was any truth to that one

Might be true, Stroll knew Kubica's ability as he was reserve driver in 2018 and maybe he was confident he can beat him and also benefit from his experience... as brutal as it might sound it seems he's not able to beat a teammate with 2 hands

Mayox wrote:

mcdo wrote:

DOLOMITE wrote:All that said, the sad fact is now, even if you stuck Alonso in Kubica's seat, they'd still be 18/19/20 just in a different order. So in defense of Kubica he's definitely not Williams biggest probelm right now and if he's as smart and great to work with as most articles suggest I guess it's better the devil you know for now.

Remember all that talk of Stroll moving to Force India mid-2018? And one of the interesting aspects of the rumoured move was that the Strolls wanted to bring Kubica with them. I'd love to know if there was any truth to that one

Might be true, Stroll knew Kubica's ability as he was reserve driver in 2018 and maybe he was confident he can beat him and also benefit from his experience... as brutal as it might sound it seems he's not able to beat a teammate with 2 hands

Altair wrote:

Mayox wrote:

mcdo wrote:

DOLOMITE wrote:All that said, the sad fact is now, even if you stuck Alonso in Kubica's seat, they'd still be 18/19/20 just in a different order. So in defense of Kubica he's definitely not Williams biggest probelm right now and if he's as smart and great to work with as most articles suggest I guess it's better the devil you know for now.

Remember all that talk of Stroll moving to Force India mid-2018? And one of the interesting aspects of the rumoured move was that the Strolls wanted to bring Kubica with them. I'd love to know if there was any truth to that one

Might be true, Stroll knew Kubica's ability as he was reserve driver in 2018 and maybe he was confident he can beat him and also benefit from his experience... as brutal as it might sound it seems he's not able to beat a teammate with 2 hands

poor sirotkin is wondering where one of his hands disappeared to.

mikeyg123 wrote:

Altair wrote:

Mayox wrote:

mcdo wrote:

DOLOMITE wrote:All that said, the sad fact is now, even if you stuck Alonso in Kubica's seat, they'd still be 18/19/20 just in a different order. So in defense of Kubica he's definitely not Williams biggest probelm right now and if he's as smart and great to work with as most articles suggest I guess it's better the devil you know for now.

Remember all that talk of Stroll moving to Force India mid-2018? And one of the interesting aspects of the rumoured move was that the Strolls wanted to bring Kubica with them. I'd love to know if there was any truth to that one

Might be true, Stroll knew Kubica's ability as he was reserve driver in 2018 and maybe he was confident he can beat him and also benefit from his experience... as brutal as it might sound it seems he's not able to beat a teammate with 2 hands

poor sirotkin is wondering where one of his hands disappeared to.

Did Stroll look better than Sirotkin?

Altair wrote:

Mayox wrote:

mcdo wrote:

DOLOMITE wrote:All that said, the sad fact is now, even if you stuck Alonso in Kubica's seat, they'd still be 18/19/20 just in a different order. So in defense of Kubica he's definitely not Williams biggest probelm right now and if he's as smart and great to work with as most articles suggest I guess it's better the devil you know for now.

Remember all that talk of Stroll moving to Force India mid-2018? And one of the interesting aspects of the rumoured move was that the Strolls wanted to bring Kubica with them. I'd love to know if there was any truth to that one

Might be true, Stroll knew Kubica's ability as he was reserve driver in 2018 and maybe he was confident he can beat him and also benefit from his experience... as brutal as it might sound it seems he's not able to beat a teammate with 2 hands

poor sirotkin is wondering where one of his hands disappeared to.

mikeyg123 wrote:

Altair wrote:

Mayox wrote:

mcdo wrote:

DOLOMITE wrote:All that said, the sad fact is now, even if you stuck Alonso in Kubica's seat, they'd still be 18/19/20 just in a different order. So in defense of Kubica he's definitely not Williams biggest probelm right now and if he's as smart and great to work with as most articles suggest I guess it's better the devil you know for now.

Remember all that talk of Stroll moving to Force India mid-2018? And one of the interesting aspects of the rumoured move was that the Strolls wanted to bring Kubica with them. I'd love to know if there was any truth to that one

Might be true, Stroll knew Kubica's ability as he was reserve driver in 2018 and maybe he was confident he can beat him and also benefit from his experience... as brutal as it might sound it seems he's not able to beat a teammate with 2 hands

poor sirotkin is wondering where one of his hands disappeared to.

Did Stroll look better than Sirotkin?

Seanie wrote:I commend Kubica & Wlliams for trying, but I really think Claire needs to consider offering the seat to Merc and Ocon. Might be the best for the team in the long run?