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Doesn't seem to be a Ferrari track. I will be surprised if Vettel and Leclerc can turn their season around for Team Red.
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Mort Canard wrote:Doesn't seem to be a Ferrari track. I will be surprised if Vettel and Leclerc can turn their season around for Team Red.
With that long straight I suspect it will indeed be a Ferrari track. I'd watch for a potential Leclerc maiden victory at this race.

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sandman1347 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:Doesn't seem to be a Ferrari track. I will be surprised if Vettel and Leclerc can turn their season around for Team Red.
With that long straight I suspect it will indeed be a Ferrari track. I'd watch for a potential Leclerc maiden victory at this race.
Depends if Ferrari keep having to turn their PU down. I didn't notice them being that much quicker on the straights in China in race trim, tbh.

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Zoue wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:Doesn't seem to be a Ferrari track. I will be surprised if Vettel and Leclerc can turn their season around for Team Red.
With that long straight I suspect it will indeed be a Ferrari track. I'd watch for a potential Leclerc maiden victory at this race.
Depends if Ferrari keep having to turn their PU down. I didn't notice them being that much quicker on the straights in China in race trim, tbh.
Ferrari are bringing a few upgrades here. Bigger news is Honda is bringing their Spec 2 engine here as well.
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Zoue wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:Doesn't seem to be a Ferrari track. I will be surprised if Vettel and Leclerc can turn their season around for Team Red.
With that long straight I suspect it will indeed be a Ferrari track. I'd watch for a potential Leclerc maiden victory at this race.
Depends if Ferrari keep having to turn their PU down. I didn't notice them being that much quicker on the straights in China in race trim, tbh.
Yeah apparently the advantage is bigger in qualifying were they have more hp than Mercedes, 15hp or 25hp I forget the figure, in the race the hp is similar, then the straight line advantage is just down to the low aero design of the car.
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Why do people keep bringing up this phantom Ferrari straight line speed, we have not seen materialise anywhere this season?

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Rockie wrote:Why do people keep bringing up this phantom Ferrari straight line speed, we have not seen materialise anywhere this season?

It was more than evident in Bahrain. But the one common denominator in all 3 races is that Merc is stronger in most of the corners. Baku’s straight is truly enormous and should reward straight line speed but if Ferrari has to sacrifice too much of theirs to match Merc’s speed in the tighter sections of the track it’s gonna be a tough weekend for them.

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Rockie wrote:Why do people keep bringing up this phantom Ferrari straight line speed, we have not seen materialise anywhere this season?
What do you mean exactly? Ferrari have had the most straight line speed everywhere this season.

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kleefton wrote:
Rockie wrote:Why do people keep bringing up this phantom Ferrari straight line speed, we have not seen materialise anywhere this season?

It was more than evident in Bahrain. But the one common denominator in all 3 races is that Merc is stronger in most of the corners. Baku’s straight is truly enormous and should reward straight line speed but if Ferrari has to sacrifice too much of theirs to match Merc’s speed in the tighter sections of the track it’s gonna be a tough weekend for them.
So one out of three races a 33% occurrence rate, considering China had a long straight were the speed advantage didnt materialise.

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sandman1347 wrote:
Rockie wrote:Why do people keep bringing up this phantom Ferrari straight line speed, we have not seen materialise anywhere this season?
What do you mean exactly? Ferrari have had the most straight line speed everywhere this season.
The same way Williams had the straight line speed in '14 that didn't trouble Redbull let alone Mercedes.

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pokerman wrote:
Zoue wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:Doesn't seem to be a Ferrari track. I will be surprised if Vettel and Leclerc can turn their season around for Team Red.
With that long straight I suspect it will indeed be a Ferrari track. I'd watch for a potential Leclerc maiden victory at this race.
Depends if Ferrari keep having to turn their PU down. I didn't notice them being that much quicker on the straights in China in race trim, tbh.
Yeah apparently the advantage is bigger in qualifying were they have more hp than Mercedes, 15hp or 25hp I forget the figure, in the race the hp is similar, then the straight line advantage is just down to the low aero design of the car.
Absolute nonsense as usual!

You forget the figure but will still quote a phantom figure, instead of doing a research which will tell you no such thing exists, but will pull others into an unnecessary argument over several posts.

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UnlikeUday wrote:
Zoue wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:Doesn't seem to be a Ferrari track. I will be surprised if Vettel and Leclerc can turn their season around for Team Red.
With that long straight I suspect it will indeed be a Ferrari track. I'd watch for a potential Leclerc maiden victory at this race.
Depends if Ferrari keep having to turn their PU down. I didn't notice them being that much quicker on the straights in China in race trim, tbh.
Ferrari are bringing a few upgrades here. Bigger news is Honda is bringing their Spec 2 engine here as well.
That seems early for a spec 2 engine!

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Rockie wrote:Why do people keep bringing up this phantom Ferrari straight line speed, we have not seen materialise anywhere this season?
Apart from the timing data you mean? :lol:
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Rockie wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
Rockie wrote:Why do people keep bringing up this phantom Ferrari straight line speed, we have not seen materialise anywhere this season?
What do you mean exactly? Ferrari have had the most straight line speed everywhere this season.
The same way Williams had the straight line speed in '14 that didn't trouble Redbull let alone Mercedes.
Are you sure that wasn't phantom straight line speed as well?
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Rockie wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Zoue wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:Doesn't seem to be a Ferrari track. I will be surprised if Vettel and Leclerc can turn their season around for Team Red.
With that long straight I suspect it will indeed be a Ferrari track. I'd watch for a potential Leclerc maiden victory at this race.
Depends if Ferrari keep having to turn their PU down. I didn't notice them being that much quicker on the straights in China in race trim, tbh.
Yeah apparently the advantage is bigger in qualifying were they have more hp than Mercedes, 15hp or 25hp I forget the figure, in the race the hp is similar, then the straight line advantage is just down to the low aero design of the car.
Absolute nonsense as usual!

You forget the figure but will still quote a phantom figure, instead of doing a research which will tell you no such thing exists, but will pull others into an unnecessary argument over several posts.
You mean like the research you are bringing to this thread?

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opin ... -delivered
1) The Ferrari engine problem was fixed and it was able to use more aggressive modes than had even been seen in qualifying in Melbourne. In the highest of these modes it had a measurable power advantage over Mercedes, GPS revealing it to be powering out of the corners harder and remaining faster all the way down the straight as the ersK kept deploying for longer.
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/repo ... rix-report
Despite losing what it calculated as 0.35sec to the Ferraris down the straights, Mercedes quite comfortably locked out the front row, Bottas edging out Hamilton for pole by a scant couple of hundredths. Unlike in Bahrain, the Mercedes were more than making back through the turns what they were losing out to the red cars on the straights – to the tune of around 0.3sec.
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Rockie wrote:
sandman1347 wrote:
Rockie wrote:Why do people keep bringing up this phantom Ferrari straight line speed, we have not seen materialise anywhere this season?
What do you mean exactly? Ferrari have had the most straight line speed everywhere this season.
The same way Williams had the straight line speed in '14 that didn't trouble Redbull let alone Mercedes.
I'm not sure if I'm following you here. What does one have to do with the other? Are you saying that Williams weren't really fast in a straight line in 2014? Because if so, you're completely wrong. Either way, it doesn't explain what you mean by calling Ferrari's straight line speed "phantom".

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I thought we all understood that the speed is there but it has to be dialled back or they risk not finishing.

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Mort Canard wrote:Doesn't seem to be a Ferrari track. I will be surprised if Vettel and Leclerc can turn their season around for Team Red.
It very much is. Ferrari goes well on tight, short corners + that long straight.
If they are still not fastest here then for the first time I'll have to say that Merc is really the fastest car all around.

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Option or Prime wrote:I thought we all understood that the speed is there but it has to be dialled back or they risk not finishing.
Well they perhaps can't use their highest qualifying mode in the race, as far as I'm aware that's all they have to dial back now, in the race like I said before the power is said to be similar to the Mercedes, the straight line speed advantage being down to the design of the car but that then gives it short comings in the corners.
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Bacus wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:Doesn't seem to be a Ferrari track. I will be surprised if Vettel and Leclerc can turn their season around for Team Red.
It very much is. Ferrari goes well on tight, short corners + that long straight.
If they are still not fastest here then for the first time I'll have to say that Merc is really the fastest car all around.
No not this year. They are slower in the low speed stuff now.

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Huge weekend for Ferrari I feel. They've never won here and I feel if that happens again this weekend it's all over. All this talk of Ferrari's superior engine - if it doesn't do the job here this weekend then they aren't superior to Merc in any capacity
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Amatuer hour, still having loose drain covers totally ruining the practice session.
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mcdo wrote:Huge weekend for Ferrari I feel. They've never won here and I feel if that happens again this weekend it's all over. All this talk of Ferrari's superior engine - if it doesn't do the job here this weekend then they aren't superior to Merc in any capacity
They had the best car in Baku last year, a superior engine is still a superior engine.
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pokerman wrote:Amatuer hour, still having loose drain covers totally ruining the practice session.

Well thats that for a few hours I imagine.

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shoot999 wrote:
pokerman wrote:Amatuer hour, still having loose drain covers totally ruining the practice session.

Well thats that for a few hours I imagine.
I wonder if the circuit will be fined?

Williams need to send them a bill.
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What a joke. Probably have to check the bridge now as well.. :lol:
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pokerman wrote:
mcdo wrote:Huge weekend for Ferrari I feel. They've never won here and I feel if that happens again this weekend it's all over. All this talk of Ferrari's superior engine - if it doesn't do the job here this weekend then they aren't superior to Merc in any capacity
They had the best car in Baku last year, a superior engine is still a superior engine.
Did they?

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Will Williams be able to recover the car? The damage seems to be more serious than it initially looked

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Session won't be restarted. Official

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Recovery truck has now hit and damaged the bridge on S/F hydraulic fluid dripping onto the car. Just missed the display bridge, Mr Bean time!

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FP1 won't be restarted! :x
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Zoue wrote:
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mcdo wrote:Huge weekend for Ferrari I feel. They've never won here and I feel if that happens again this weekend it's all over. All this talk of Ferrari's superior engine - if it doesn't do the job here this weekend then they aren't superior to Merc in any capacity
They had the best car in Baku last year, a superior engine is still a superior engine.
Did they?
Vettel scarpered off only the SC did for him.
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