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Re: 2020 Dutch Grand Prix?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 10:43 am
by Cold Gin
From what I’ve read there will be reprofiling of some corners. The width, though...it’s like Imola. (Thank God that was removed).
Re: 2020 Dutch Grand Prix?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 12:06 pm
by Fiki
Do I read this correctly? Will the cars go through that corner with DRS open? I will have to look at Brazil again to see if they do there. (You can tell I'm not a fan who leaps for joy whenever a driver opens his DRS, can't you...?)
How about Jan Lammers hoping the short pitlane will entice three-stop races? Jan, please come to your senses, pitlane overtakes, really?
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Exediron wrote:Fiki wrote:mikeyg123 wrote:Cold Gin wrote:I believe you, but I find that hard to believe that Charlie would say that. The debate on MotoGP ever going to Mexico City is currently in a flux due to how unsafe the track would be in its current state for motorcycles. That straight they have---Jesus GP bikes might hit 230mph on it. To say nothing of the stadium section, how close the walls are....I sincerely doubt they ever race there.
I've listened to it again and I'm wrong. It was the Astro turf they couldn't have because of MotoGP.
I never understood the need for astroturf anywhere. Last year I found artificial grass in the playground of my old primary school. What is this world coming to when children are given the idea that real isn't good enough?
Astro-turf is actually a really good deterrent for car racing. It has virtually no grip, so it's slippery and you don't gain by running over it, but it also can't make the car dig in and flip like real grass and dirt.
Thanks Exediron! To be honest, I rather like Lauda's idea that if you don't want cars to overrun the track limits, you put in real kerb stones to dissuade drivers from taking liberties.
Re: 2020 Dutch Grand Prix?
Posted: Wed May 22, 2019 4:24 pm
by tim3003
F1 Racer wrote:Fiki wrote:If you look at how small the track has become, I think it may suffer from the same problems the Hungaroring is known for. If there is no problem adding all the silly run-off areas, then perhaps they might even get permission to enlarge the track again. But I'm not hopeful, and even in 1985 Prost couldn't get past a perfectly defending Lauda. However, that problem might be solved by artificial DRS overtakes.
Surely you mean Prost couldn't get past a poorly defending Lauda right? Because if he was perfectly defending then of course it shouldn't have been possible to be passed, whether it be around Zandvoort or even on a hypothetical track that is super conducive for overtakes.
My point is stemming mainly from the notion that if a driver can defend perfectly yet they still get passed, then this isn't real racing is it? For example many of the overly easy DRS overtakes that we see, where the defender is often a mere spectator in the passing maneuver; this is not real racing and is why purists don't like it.
The track has been largely remodelled since the last GP in 85. Back then it lacked many real corners. Now it has plenty, but still keeps the home straight and Tarzan hairpin - its most famous features.
Re: 2020 Dutch Grand Prix?
Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:03 pm
by DFWdude
I'm looking forward to the return of the Dutch GP. I watched all of it's races through it's falling off the calendar post 1985. I still remember the commentators speaking of the sand from the sea blowing across the track.
Here's a recent story about the changes being made to bring the track to modern standards. It appears many of the old turns will remain, apart from improved runoffs, etc.
https://www.racefans.net/2019/05/14/how ... -35-years/
