Blake wrote:Ah yes... The Ferrari devils are on trial in the forum yet again. And apparently Blake as well. Personally, excediron, I prefer not to be singled out as the basis of this thread. I suspect Ferrari/Ferrari fans would prefer to be grouped with all the teams that receive benefits as opposed to being singled out. Also if the poll is to exist, I'd appreciate an inbetween option...It isn't as simple as a strictly yes or no answer.
There are other aspects of revenue that should be in the discussion, but not nearly as fun. My respond to the topic is in the other thread.
I'm sorry you see it as being singled out, as I didn't intend it that way. You were one of the three people who started the discussion in that other thread, so you got a quote.
Having read your reply in the other thread, it is clearly a yes. Your opinion doesn't seem to be a middle ground to me: as I stated in my OP, if you support the idea of teams being paid at least in part on the basis of history or status, it's a yes for this thread.
I don't think that's an invalid opinion to have. It isn't my opinion, but I do understand the argument behind it - for Ferrari, McLaren and Williams only. Mercedes and Red Bull to me have done nothing to merit historic bonus payments. Mercedes and Red Bull have both hinted frequently that they'll leave the sport when it no longer aligns with their interests. And putting that aside, neither one has been in F1 for even as long as Sauber, which doesn't get a bonus.
If you wouldn't mind, what's your response to my argument that historic teams will always have an elevated revenue as a result of their fan base and increased sponsorship opportunities? If you think about American sports, there's no question that certain NFL teams have a far bigger draw than others. Yet the pot is split equally, providing a base level where everyone can afford to compete. The bigger, historic teams still make more money, but they make it through things directly and fairly attributable to their popularity - deals and merchandising using their name and image.
The idea of giving an even distribution to all the teams isn't rooted in an idea that it will make Haas suddenly challenge Ferrari, despite how it's sometimes presented. It's rooted in the idea that every team should have enough base money to be healthy and compete, and that what teams spend on top of that should be down to their own willingness and ability to put money into the sport. The teams who get the bonuses are the exact opposite of the teams who need them; Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren and Red Bull will be financially stable with no bonuses at all. But the money would make a lot of difference to the likes of Force India or Manor, teams who struggle to stay on the grid because they have no deep pockets standing behind them.