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Haas will be the first team to start the proceedings of the launches, even though today they'll be revealing the livery only which is unofficially believed to be Black & Gold.

Here is an image from heir official Twitter to get us in the mood:

Source - http://www.imgur.com

The revelation of the livery will be streamed live on the link below:
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/video/haa ... ch/382025/

Here it is:


Source - http://www.imgur.com


Source - http://www.imgur.com

Well it's better looking than their previous liveries in my opinion, I'm still sceptical about Rich Energy though.

Looks nice in a showroom, I imagine it will be quite boring when on a dark grey racetrack after the initial novelty wears off personally, but we will see.

Black and gold always works. I like it

owenmahamilton wrote:Well it's better looking than their previous liveries in my opinion, I'm still sceptical about Rich Energy though.

I think it looks quite nice. I'm sceptical about them but I guess they must have the capital if they've got Haas on board. I've seen them on the boxer Genady Golovkin before as well.

it looks good... i just wonder how long it's gonna last before Rich Energy goes bust and it gets removed

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... auto-2019/

Interesting article for anyone that cares

Dark livery and a dark background.. meh.

Looks like an improvement on last year though.

When Max is in front of the stewards for cutting them up he will be able to say I didn't seen him coming, he just merged with the track!

Yellowbin74 wrote:Dark livery and a dark background.. meh.

Looks like an improvement on last year though.

Dark background to help conceal the car's aerodynamic bits!

the new investors bluster is putting me off of haas. a smaller team i rooted for, not so sure this season

pc27b wrote:the new investors bluster is putting me off of haas. a smaller team i rooted for, not so sure this season

Why do you put so much weight on the sponsorship? I do not think people support Ferrari because of Mission Minnow, nor Mercedes because of Petronas.

Siao7 wrote:

pc27b wrote:the new investors bluster is putting me off of haas. a smaller team i rooted for, not so sure this season

Why do you put so much weight on the sponsorship? I do not think people support Ferrari because of Mission Minnow, nor Mercedes because of Petronas.

initial observations.

pc27b wrote:

Siao7 wrote:

pc27b wrote:the new investors bluster is putting me off of haas. a smaller team i rooted for, not so sure this season

Why do you put so much weight on the sponsorship? I do not think people support Ferrari because of Mission Minnow, nor Mercedes because of Petronas.

initial observations.

Fair enough. I'm asking as I do not think that the sponsor would put me off my favourite team, unless it was something I truly resented I guess. But until we see a "Kim Jong Un McLaren" or "Trump Ferrari" I think I'll be fine!

UnlikeUday wrote:

Yellowbin74 wrote:Dark livery and a dark background.. meh.

Looks like an improvement on last year though.

Dark background to help conceal the car's aerodynamic bits!

Nope. This is last year’s car, so they’re not trying to hide anything.
The more likely reason is to keep from contaminating the black with another color. We did this with Canon’s printers because shooting glossy black on anything but black or gray requires color correction to adjust the blacks to where they need to be in order to represent the product correctly.

I love black cars and I think this looks good, but the design is rather lazy. The way they laid out the strip at the nose is boring. So much more could have been done here. But F1 teams generally tend to suck at designing beautiful liveries these days.

Siao7 wrote:

pc27b wrote:

Siao7 wrote:

pc27b wrote:the new investors bluster is putting me off of haas. a smaller team i rooted for, not so sure this season

Why do you put so much weight on the sponsorship? I do not think people support Ferrari because of Mission Minnow, nor Mercedes because of Petronas.

initial observations.

Fair enough. I'm asking as I do not think that the sponsor would put me off my favourite team, unless it was something I truly resented I guess. But until we see a "Kim Jong Un McLaren" or "Trump Ferrari" I think I'll be fine!

lol.
as i looked at the car and read the guys comments i was just put off. don't like the copy of the john player special and don't like the guys blustering. i'm sure i will still root for haas to do well, but today i was thinking wtf ?

pc27b wrote:the new investors bluster is putting me off of haas. a smaller team i rooted for, not so sure this season

I feel like this as well, I'm finding it difficult to consider Rich Energy to be a legitimate company until I actually see a physical can of the stuff somewhere, either on a shop shelf or being drunk by someone. By extension therefore I'd find it more difficult to support a team that has associated itself so closely to an organisation that in my eyes more resembles a criminal enterprise than a properly functioning business.

Too much black, not enough gold.

Exediron wrote:Too much black, not enough gold.

Agreed. It looks pretty good but could use a bit more color.

Anything is better than that “window putty” grey.

Funny... Whenever someone brings up the question of best liveries in F1 historically, the JPS Lotus cars are nearly always at the top of the discussions. Now it is black with gold will be hard to see against a grey background and it is boring? What has changed? I

Blake wrote:Funny... Whenever someone brings up the question of best liveries in F1 historically, the JPS Lotus cars are nearly always at the top of the discussions. Now it is black with gold will be hard to see against a grey background and it is boring? What has changed? I

It's not boring, it's just that it could be better. It's basically a black car with some golden accents, just like - indeed - the JPS livery of old was. More gold accents would make the car more visually interesting for me.

Blake wrote:Funny... Whenever someone brings up the question of best liveries in F1 historically, the JPS Lotus cars are nearly always at the top of the discussions. Now it is black with gold will be hard to see against a grey background and it is boring? What has changed? I

I personally find the old JPS livery quite boring too.

F1 MERCENARY wrote:

UnlikeUday wrote:

Yellowbin74 wrote:Dark livery and a dark background.. meh.

Looks like an improvement on last year though.

Dark background to help conceal the car's aerodynamic bits!

Nope. This is last year’s car, so they’re not trying to hide anything.

I thought the rendered car was this year's and the one at the unveiling was last year's

This guy seems to suggest it's a new car

https://youtu.be/w6C5VDHmxUs

pc27b wrote:

Siao7 wrote:

pc27b wrote:

Siao7 wrote:

pc27b wrote:the new investors bluster is putting me off of haas. a smaller team i rooted for, not so sure this season

Why do you put so much weight on the sponsorship? I do not think people support Ferrari because of Mission Minnow, nor Mercedes because of Petronas.

initial observations.

Fair enough. I'm asking as I do not think that the sponsor would put me off my favourite team, unless it was something I truly resented I guess. But until we see a "Kim Jong Un McLaren" or "Trump Ferrari" I think I'll be fine!

lol.
as i looked at the car and read the guys comments i was just put off. don't like the copy of the john player special and don't like the guys blustering. i'm sure i will still root for haas to do well, but today i was thinking wtf ?

Fair enough! I did like the JPS and I like Haas, so maybe that's why I thought it is ok.

jiminwatford wrote:

F1 MERCENARY wrote:

UnlikeUday wrote:

Yellowbin74 wrote:Dark livery and a dark background.. meh.

Looks like an improvement on last year though.

Dark background to help conceal the car's aerodynamic bits!

Nope. This is last year’s car, so they’re not trying to hide anything.

I thought the rendered car was this year's and the one at the unveiling was last year's

This guy seems to suggest it's a new car

https://youtu.be/w6C5VDHmxUs

The front wing was new, the car wasn't.

I like the livery, and expect some tweaking once they see how it looks in daylight and on the telly.

They could have taken their inspiration from the Walter Wolf car (which was more graphic than the JPS Lotus).

Edited to add a photo...

From http://www.portableroadways.com

If this car is 2018 car, how come there are reports pointing out to double exhaust present on this car which will be present on this year's Ferrari as well.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/14138 ... ri-exhaust

The car shown was the 2018 car with 2019 front wing. The renders tweeted were a 2019 car.

Blake wrote:Funny... Whenever someone brings up the question of best liveries in F1 historically, the JPS Lotus cars are nearly always at the top of the discussions. Now it is black with gold will be hard to see against a grey background and it is boring? What has changed? I

for me, this guy "rich energy" has nothing to do with jps, neither does haas. it's certainly not that haas has had an awesome livery in the past, but this livery, and the "rich energy" dude just strikes me the wrong way again today. which i realize, means absolutely nothing to anyone but me lol.
anyhow, i do hope haas can be in the the battle for 4th or 5th again this season

Llotyhy wrote:The car shown was the 2018 car with 2019 front wing. The renders tweeted were a 2019 car.

So the pictures posted on here by OP are renderings of the 2019 car. The car that launched in London was the 2018 with the new livery, which we have no pictures of in this thread. Ok. I was getting it confused here for a sec.

Fiki wrote:

jiminwatford wrote:

F1 MERCENARY wrote:

UnlikeUday wrote:

Yellowbin74 wrote:Dark livery and a dark background.. meh.

Looks like an improvement on last year though.

Dark background to help conceal the car's aerodynamic bits!

Nope. This is last year’s car, so they’re not trying to hide anything.

I thought the rendered car was this year's and the one at the unveiling was last year's

This guy seems to suggest it's a new car

https://youtu.be/w6C5VDHmxUs

The front wing was new, the car wasn't.

I like the livery, and expect some tweaking once they see how it looks in daylight and on the telly.

The reference was in relation to the rendered car

Which apparently is the 2019 car

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6C5VDHmxUs

Interesting video breaking down the car. I really do like the new front wings. Also it looks like this car will benefit from adopting several elements of Ferrari's design philosophy. I'm interested to see whether we actually do find that there is a significant impact on overtaking with these regs.

jiminwatford wrote:

Fiki wrote:

jiminwatford wrote:

I thought the rendered car was this year's and the one at the unveiling was last year's

This guy seems to suggest it's a new car

https://youtu.be/w6C5VDHmxUs

The front wing was new, the car wasn't.

I like the livery, and expect some tweaking once they see how it looks in daylight and on the telly.

The reference was in relation to the rendered car

Which apparently is the 2019 car

looks like a great car!

AstoriaisBACK wrote:looks like a great car!

Hey, stranger! Good to see you back.

2019 Haas Livery

Source: https://carvaganza.com/wp-content/uploa ... very-3.jpg

2019 Renault Livery

Source: https://msmproduction.s3-eu-west-1.amaz ... f1_car.jpg

Hope nobody else on the grid decides on a black and yellow or gold livery. Might get confusing.

Blake wrote:

AstoriaisBACK wrote:looks like a great car!

Hey, stranger! Good to see you back.

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AstoriaisBACK wrote:

Blake wrote:

AstoriaisBACK wrote:looks like a great car!

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