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 Post subject: Re: Quiz question? F1
PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:04 pm 
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I don't really understand the question but I'm sure it'll make sense when someone puts the answer up


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 Post subject: Re: Quiz question? F1
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Who is the only driver too win the same grand prix. In consecutive rounds of the championship. So for example rounds 3 and 4.
What grand prix was it. And how did this occurance happen?


Not sure this is what you are looking for but the Australian Grand Prix of 1995 was the last race of that year and the first race of 1996. So two consecutive races as the Australian Grand Prix. Both races were won by Damon Hill.

It was just a change in the schedule from the last race of the season to the first in consecutive years.

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wire2004 wrote:
Who is the only driver too win the same grand prix. In consecutive rounds of the championship. So for example rounds 3 and 4.
What grand prix was it. And how did this occurance happen?


Not sure this is what you are looking for but the Australian Grand Prix of 1995 was the last race of that year and the first race of 1996. So two consecutive races as the Australian Grand Prix. Both races were won by Damon Hill.

It was just a change in the schedule from the last race of the season to the first in consecutive years.


Bingo. we have a winner


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wire2004 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:
wire2004 wrote:
Who is the only driver too win the same grand prix. In consecutive rounds of the championship. So for example rounds 3 and 4.
What grand prix was it. And how did this occurance happen?


Not sure this is what you are looking for but the Australian Grand Prix of 1995 was the last race of that year and the first race of 1996. So two consecutive races as the Australian Grand Prix. Both races were won by Damon Hill.

It was just a change in the schedule from the last race of the season to the first in consecutive years.


Bingo. we have a winner


Well done though technically, if we want to be pedantic, one could argue it wasn't consecutive rounds of the championship rather consecutive races covering 2 championships. Then again I might be just being a prick about it.

My first thought was the 1984 F1 season when there was back to back races in the U.S but it turns out Piquet won Detroit while Rosberg won Dallas.

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 Post subject: Re: Quiz question? F1
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Jezza13 wrote:
wire2004 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:
wire2004 wrote:
Who is the only driver too win the same grand prix. In consecutive rounds of the championship. So for example rounds 3 and 4.
What grand prix was it. And how did this occurance happen?


Not sure this is what you are looking for but the Australian Grand Prix of 1995 was the last race of that year and the first race of 1996. So two consecutive races as the Australian Grand Prix. Both races were won by Damon Hill.

It was just a change in the schedule from the last race of the season to the first in consecutive years.


Bingo. we have a winner


Well done though technically, if we want to be pedantic, one could argue it wasn't consecutive rounds of the championship rather consecutive races covering 2 championships. Then again I might be just being a prick about it.

My first thought was the 1984 F1 season when there was back to back races in the U.S but it turns out Piquet won Detroit while Rosberg won Dallas.


Not at all, you are right, these are two different years


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 Post subject: Re: Quiz question? F1
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:28 pm 
Siao7 wrote:
Jezza13 wrote:
wire2004 wrote:
Mort Canard wrote:
wire2004 wrote:
Who is the only driver too win the same grand prix. In consecutive rounds of the championship. So for example rounds 3 and 4.
What grand prix was it. And how did this occurance happen?


Not sure this is what you are looking for but the Australian Grand Prix of 1995 was the last race of that year and the first race of 1996. So two consecutive races as the Australian Grand Prix. Both races were won by Damon Hill.

It was just a change in the schedule from the last race of the season to the first in consecutive years.


Bingo. we have a winner


Well done though technically, if we want to be pedantic, one could argue it wasn't consecutive rounds of the championship rather consecutive races covering 2 championships. Then again I might be just being a prick about it.

My first thought was the 1984 F1 season when there was back to back races in the U.S but it turns out Piquet won Detroit while Rosberg won Dallas.


Not at all, you are right, these are two different years

I thought he was meaning in the same season!


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 Post subject: Re: Quiz question? F1
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Jezza13 wrote:
wire2004 wrote:
Bingo. we have a winner


Well done though technically, if we want to be pedantic, one could argue it wasn't consecutive rounds of the championship rather consecutive races covering 2 championships. Then again I might be just being a prick about it.

My first thought was the 1984 F1 season when there was back to back races in the U.S but it turns out Piquet won Detroit while Rosberg won Dallas.


1984 was also my first guess but in addition to having different winners, they were (and still are) badged as the "Detroit Grand Prix" and the "Dallas Grand Prix". Neither was or is now called "The US Grand Prix".

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 Post subject: Re: Quiz question? F1
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dompclarke wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Jezza13 wrote:
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Not sure this is what you are looking for but the Australian Grand Prix of 1995 was the last race of that year and the first race of 1996. So two consecutive races as the Australian Grand Prix. Both races were won by Damon Hill.

It was just a change in the schedule from the last race of the season to the first in consecutive years.


Bingo. we have a winner


Well done though technically, if we want to be pedantic, one could argue it wasn't consecutive rounds of the championship rather consecutive races covering 2 championships. Then again I might be just being a prick about it.

My first thought was the 1984 F1 season when there was back to back races in the U.S but it turns out Piquet won Detroit while Rosberg won Dallas.


Not at all, you are right, these are two different years

I thought he was meaning in the same season!


Maybe, we need wire2004 to confirm!


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 Post subject: Re: Quiz question? F1
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I've just thought one up - someone will point it out if I missed something:

What did the 2018 cohort of F1 drivers manage that has never been achieved before?

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 Post subject: Re: Quiz question? F1
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Herb wrote:
I've just thought one up - someone will point it out if I missed something:

What did the 2018 cohort of F1 drivers manage that has never been achieved before?


First year in the history of the sport where the same drivers that started the season, finished the season.

I was surprised myself when Martin Brundle mentioned this.

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 Post subject: Re: Quiz question? F1
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Yellowbin74 wrote:
Herb wrote:
I've just thought one up - someone will point it out if I missed something:

What did the 2018 cohort of F1 drivers manage that has never been achieved before?


First year in the history of the sport where the same drivers that started the season, finished the season.

I was surprised myself when Martin Brundle mentioned this.


Not just that they finished the season, they competed at every race.

I didn't hear him say it - so I just went back through every season - I thought I'd only be going back 5 or 6 years!

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 Post subject: Re: Quiz question? F1
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Herb wrote:
I've just thought one up - someone will point it out if I missed something:

What did the 2018 cohort of F1 drivers manage that has never been achieved before?


Was also the first season where every driver on the grid scored points during the season. All the way down to 1 point scored by Sergei Sirotkin.

In previous years there were always drivers who scored no points during the season.

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 Post subject: Re: Quiz question? F1
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When was the most recent instance of a Team ending the season with a driver line up different to the one it started with (not inlciding subs/stand ins). ?

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When was the most recent instance of a Team ending the season with a driver line up different to the one it started with (not inlciding subs/stand ins). ?


2017 - Sainz replaces Palmer at Renault with about four races to go.


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When was the most recent instance of a Team ending the season with a driver line up different to the one it started with (not inlciding subs/stand ins). ?


2017 - Sainz replaces Palmer at Renault with about four races to go.

I understood the question was when the line-up changed completely mid-season?

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 Post subject: Re: Quiz question? F1
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Covalent wrote:
JN23 wrote:
DOLOMITE wrote:
When was the most recent instance of a Team ending the season with a driver line up different to the one it started with (not inlciding subs/stand ins). ?


2017 - Sainz replaces Palmer at Renault with about four races to go.

I understood the question was when the line-up changed completely mid-season?


I agree. I also do not know the answer, although if there was one team capable of doing this that comes to mind it would be Toro Rosso.


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Siao7 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
JN23 wrote:
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When was the most recent instance of a Team ending the season with a driver line up different to the one it started with (not inlciding subs/stand ins). ?


2017 - Sainz replaces Palmer at Renault with about four races to go.

I understood the question was when the line-up changed completely mid-season?


I agree. I also do not know the answer, although if there was one team capable of doing this that comes to mind it would be Toro Rosso.


Ah so the two drivers who started at race one were replaced by two different drivers by the last race?


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JN23 wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
JN23 wrote:
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When was the most recent instance of a Team ending the season with a driver line up different to the one it started with (not inlciding subs/stand ins). ?


2017 - Sainz replaces Palmer at Renault with about four races to go.

I understood the question was when the line-up changed completely mid-season?


I agree. I also do not know the answer, although if there was one team capable of doing this that comes to mind it would be Toro Rosso.


Ah so the two drivers who started at race one were replaced by two different drivers by the last race?


Sorry yes - both drivers changed at some point in the year.

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 Post subject: Re: Quiz question? F1
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Siao7 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
JN23 wrote:
DOLOMITE wrote:
When was the most recent instance of a Team ending the season with a driver line up different to the one it started with (not inlciding subs/stand ins). ?


2017 - Sainz replaces Palmer at Renault with about four races to go.

I understood the question was when the line-up changed completely mid-season?


I agree. I also do not know the answer, although if there was one team capable of doing this that comes to mind it would be Toro Rosso.

Indeed. Their driver merry-go-round in 2017 saw them start the year with Kvyat and Sainz, and end it with Gasly and Hartley. Sainz moved to Renault and Kvyat was replaced for poor performances.

I had to turn to Wikipedia to find other examples, and I could only find two:
1) Toyota in 2004. Cristiano da Matta was fired and replaced by Ricardo Zonta who was in turn replaced by Trulli after he was booted out of Renault. Panis then stepped down from the other seat for the last race for reasons I can't recall and Zonta stepped back in.

2) Prost in 2001. Alesi left for Jordan mid-season, and Gaston Mazzacane was replaced by Luciano Burti after just a handful of races (one has to wonder why they hired Mazzacane in the first place, he was hopeless). Burti himself then missed the last few races of the season after his horror crash at Spa and was replaced by Tomas Enge.

I'm sure there are more if you go back further in time, as driver line-ups over the season are much more stable now than they used to be. There are probably multiple examples amongst the tangled web of driver changes we saw in 1994, for instance.


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j man wrote:
Siao7 wrote:
Covalent wrote:
JN23 wrote:
DOLOMITE wrote:
When was the most recent instance of a Team ending the season with a driver line up different to the one it started with (not inlciding subs/stand ins). ?


2017 - Sainz replaces Palmer at Renault with about four races to go.

I understood the question was when the line-up changed completely mid-season?


I agree. I also do not know the answer, although if there was one team capable of doing this that comes to mind it would be Toro Rosso.

Indeed. Their driver merry-go-round in 2017 saw them start the year with Kvyat and Sainz, and end it with Gasly and Hartley. Sainz moved to Renault and Kvyat was replaced for poor performances.

I had to turn to Wikipedia to find other examples, and I could only find two:
1) Toyota in 2004. Cristiano da Matta was fired and replaced by Ricardo Zonta who was in turn replaced by Trulli after he was booted out of Renault. Panis then stepped down from the other seat for the last race for reasons I can't recall and Zonta stepped back in.

2) Prost in 2001. Alesi left for Jordan mid-season, and Gaston Mazzacane was replaced by Luciano Burti after just a handful of races (one has to wonder why they hired Mazzacane in the first place, he was hopeless). Burti himself then missed the last few races of the season after his horror crash at Spa and was replaced by Tomas Enge.

I'm sure there are more if you go back further in time, as driver line-ups over the season are much more stable now than they used to be. There are probably multiple examples amongst the tangled web of driver changes we saw in 1994, for instance.


Nice post, thank you


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