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No Jaguar I-Pace race this weekend

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Well, track record has been destroyed by more than 2 seconds already, and it was FP1 with a terrible track surface & cold (6 degrees)

1'17''8 for Frijns (previous official record 1'19''9 by Abt)


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What on earth happened there? Did Frijns hit Bird then reverse into Dillman or did Dillman hit Frijns into Bird?

Dillman crashed into Frijns i think. Reminiscent of Montreal 2007's pitlane!

It's going to be a great superpole shootout now, cars looks wild at 250 kw!

SAM BIRD takes the pole at the very end, after a spectacular superpole shootout

Race starts now!

BMW Andretti the superiour team - if they only had better drivers ...

Was the race live on YouTube?

I could only see the watchalong

That was just Intense

Way better than Riyadh, and it was already a good race!

BMW bottled it so bad, unbelievable.

They bottled it?

Surely that relates to not doing something out of nervousness or lack of courage. I.e. losing one's 'bottle'?

Paolo_Lasardi wrote:BMW Andretti the superiour team - if they only had better drivers ...

Vergne was hardly any better, he blew it from the beginning.

pokerman wrote:

Paolo_Lasardi wrote:BMW Andretti the superiour team - if they only had better drivers ...

Vergne was hardly any better, he blew it from the beginning.

Yeah, Vergne made a silly try at taking the lead in turn one. That's better than running into your teammate when you're 1-2 in the race with multiple seconds of clear air behind you.

(Ironically enough, a certain 4-time WDC has done both of those things, so you can't really say the standard of driving in FE is that low...)

Finally had a chance to watch the Marrakesh race on rebroadcast. Pretty good show on the whole. Looked like Sims and Da Costa were going to stink up the show. Don't know if anyone would have been able to challenge them toward the end of the race when most teams use the Attack Mode???

I still don't like the FanBoost. Four out of the five drivers who were voted the boost (Vandoorne, Wehrlein, Massa, and Buemi) were former F1 drivers who made their name there. By the time the five second boost was awarded, Vandoorne and Wehrlein were already out of the race, but da Costa, Massa, and Buemi all benefited. I predict that FanBoost will continue to go primarily to ex-Formula 1 drivers for the foreseeable future.

The racing still seems a bit cramped within the confines of a concrete canyon. Much progress needs to be made on being able to get them onto regular race tracks with elevation changes and toward enabling longer races.

Exediron wrote: (Ironically enough, a certain 4-time WDC has done both of those things, so you can't really say the standard of driving in FE is that low...)

Are you talking about Alain Prost or Lewis Hamilton? I would guess that you could also find where Vettel has done it, but I can't think of an instance right at the moment.

Exediron wrote:

pokerman wrote:

Paolo_Lasardi wrote:BMW Andretti the superiour team - if they only had better drivers ...

Vergne was hardly any better, he blew it from the beginning.

Yeah, Vergne made a silly try at taking the lead in turn one. That's better than running into your teammate when you're 1-2 in the race with multiple seconds of clear air behind you.

(Ironically enough, a certain 4-time WDC has done both of those things, so you can't really say the standard of driving in FE is that low...)

I think you miss the point perhaps that in FE you can actually overtake and don't have to take that level of risk?

Mort Canard wrote:

Exediron wrote: (Ironically enough, a certain 4-time WDC has done both of those things, so you can't really say the standard of driving in FE is that low...)

Are you talking about Alain Prost or Lewis Hamilton? I would guess that you could also find where Vettel has done it, but I can't think of an instance right at the moment.

By my last count Hamilton is a 5 time world champion.

pokerman wrote:

Mort Canard wrote:

Exediron wrote: (Ironically enough, a certain 4-time WDC has done both of those things, so you can't really say the standard of driving in FE is that low...)

Are you talking about Alain Prost or Lewis Hamilton? I would guess that you could also find where Vettel has done it, but I can't think of an instance right at the moment.

By my last count Hamilton is a 5 time world champion.

That is also true. There are five drivers with (at least) four WDCs to their credit. Am guessing that they all have taken out a team mate at one time or another. Well, maybe not Fangio???

Mort Canard wrote:

pokerman wrote:

Mort Canard wrote:

Exediron wrote: (Ironically enough, a certain 4-time WDC has done both of those things, so you can't really say the standard of driving in FE is that low...)

Are you talking about Alain Prost or Lewis Hamilton? I would guess that you could also find where Vettel has done it, but I can't think of an instance right at the moment.

By my last count Hamilton is a 5 time world champion.

That is also true. There are five drivers with (at least) four WDCs to their credit. Am guessing that they all have taken out a team mate at one time or another. Well, maybe not Fangio???

There are only 2 that can be spoken of as a certain 4 time world champion.

Mort Canard wrote:

Exediron wrote: (Ironically enough, a certain 4-time WDC has done both of those things, so you can't really say the standard of driving in FE is that low...)

Are you talking about Alain Prost or Lewis Hamilton? I would guess that you could also find where Vettel has done it, but I can't think of an instance right at the moment.

I was talking about Vettel, and I thought it was pretty obvious. He ran into Webber in Turkey when they were running 1-2, and he's lost his race by making stupid first corner moves more times than I can count.

I don't believe Hamilton has ever taken out a teammate when running 1-2. Prost did, but you can't say it was down to clumsiness or stupidity, so it's not really the same thing.

Mort Canard wrote:

pokerman wrote:

Mort Canard wrote:

Exediron wrote: (Ironically enough, a certain 4-time WDC has done both of those things, so you can't really say the standard of driving in FE is that low...)

Are you talking about Alain Prost or Lewis Hamilton? I would guess that you could also find where Vettel has done it, but I can't think of an instance right at the moment.

By my last count Hamilton is a 5 time world champion.

That is also true. There are five drivers with (at least) four WDCs to their credit. Am guessing that they all have taken out a team mate at one time or another. Well, maybe not Fangio???

Well technically Fangio did take his team mates out of races. He just did it in a slightly different way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Manchester United ... d_Maserati

"Fangio took over his teammate's cars after he suffered mechanical problems in three races, the Argentine, Monaco and Italian Grands Prix."

Exediron wrote:

Mort Canard wrote:

Exediron wrote: (Ironically enough, a certain 4-time WDC has done both of those things, so you can't really say the standard of driving in FE is that low...)

Are you talking about Alain Prost or Lewis Hamilton? I would guess that you could also find where Vettel has done it, but I can't think of an instance right at the moment.

I was talking about Vettel, and I thought it was pretty obvious. He ran into Webber in Turkey when they were running 1-2, and he's lost his race by making stupid first corner moves more times than I can count.

I don't believe Hamilton has ever taken out a teammate when running 1-2. Prost did, but you can't say it was down to clumsiness or stupidity, so it's not really the same thing.

Yeah imo he's done it at Barcelona 16' While I understand this is not widely accepted, but for me he was the guilty party on that one.

Exediron wrote:

Mort Canard wrote:

Exediron wrote: (Ironically enough, a certain 4-time WDC has done both of those things, so you can't really say the standard of driving in FE is that low...)

Are you talking about Alain Prost or Lewis Hamilton? I would guess that you could also find where Vettel has done it, but I can't think of an instance right at the moment.

I was talking about Vettel, and I thought it was pretty obvious. He ran into Webber in Turkey when they were running 1-2, and he's lost his race by making stupid first corner moves more times than I can count.

I don't believe Hamilton has ever taken out a teammate when running 1-2. Prost did, but you can't say it was down to clumsiness or stupidity, so it's not really the same thing.

Well a lot of people (including Niki and Toto) put much of the onus on Lewis for this one in Spain 2016.

Jezza13 wrote: Well technically Fangio did take his team mates out of races. He just did it in a slightly different way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Manchester United ... d_Maserati

"Fangio took over his teammate's cars after he suffered mechanical problems in three races, the Argentine, Monaco and Italian Grands Prix."

kleefton wrote:

Exediron wrote:I don't believe Hamilton has ever taken out a teammate when running 1-2. Prost did, but you can't say it was down to clumsiness or stupidity, so it's not really the same thing.

Yeah imo he's done it at Barcelona 16' While I understand this is not widely accepted, but for me he was the guilty party on that one.

Mort Canard wrote:Well a lot of people (including Niki and Toto) put much of the onus on Lewis for this one in Spain 2016.

Fair enough, that could be counted. I personally viewed it as a racing incident, since Rosberg did force him onto the grass before the collision. It was still a stupid incident all around however, so it certainly qualifies for the 'Formula E drivers aren't any more amateurish than F1 champions' line of argument I started off with.

Exediron wrote:

kleefton wrote:

Exediron wrote:I don't believe Hamilton has ever taken out a teammate when running 1-2. Prost did, but you can't say it was down to clumsiness or stupidity, so it's not really the same thing.

Yeah imo he's done it at Barcelona 16' While I understand this is not widely accepted, but for me he was the guilty party on that one.

Mort Canard wrote:Well a lot of people (including Niki and Toto) put much of the onus on Lewis for this one in Spain 2016.

Fair enough, that could be counted. I personally viewed it as a racing incident, since Rosberg did force him onto the grass before the collision. It was still a stupid incident all around however, so it certainly qualifies for the 'Formula E drivers aren't any more amateurish than F1 champions' line of argument I started off with.

Both of the BMW drivers in Marrakesh also deserve some of the blame. Fairly similar kinds of incidents. Overtaking gone wrong.

Mort Canard wrote:

Exediron wrote:

Mort Canard wrote:

Exediron wrote: (Ironically enough, a certain 4-time WDC has done both of those things, so you can't really say the standard of driving in FE is that low...)

Are you talking about Alain Prost or Lewis Hamilton? I would guess that you could also find where Vettel has done it, but I can't think of an instance right at the moment.

I was talking about Vettel, and I thought it was pretty obvious. He ran into Webber in Turkey when they were running 1-2, and he's lost his race by making stupid first corner moves more times than I can count.

I don't believe Hamilton has ever taken out a teammate when running 1-2. Prost did, but you can't say it was down to clumsiness or stupidity, so it's not really the same thing.

Well a lot of people (including Niki and Toto) put much of the onus on Lewis for this one in Spain 2016.

Nothing to do with Rosberg turning hard right on a straight piece of road, I wonder what caused him to do that?

It was no different to the stunt that Verstappen pulled on Ricciardo in Baku.

Exediron wrote:

kleefton wrote:

Exediron wrote:I don't believe Hamilton has ever taken out a teammate when running 1-2. Prost did, but you can't say it was down to clumsiness or stupidity, so it's not really the same thing.

Yeah imo he's done it at Barcelona 16' While I understand this is not widely accepted, but for me he was the guilty party on that one.

Mort Canard wrote:Well a lot of people (including Niki and Toto) put much of the onus on Lewis for this one in Spain 2016.

Fair enough, that could be counted. I personally viewed it as a racing incident, since Rosberg did force him onto the grass before the collision. It was still a stupid incident all around however, so it certainly qualifies for the 'Formula E drivers aren't any more amateurish than F1 champions' line of argument I started off with.

I wonder why nobody factors in that Rosberg's car was deregging and was losing 160hp, were was Hamilton supposed to go, just sit behind with the knowledge that which ever side he went Rosberg would move his car that way after he deliberately positioned his car in the middle of the track watching his mirrors to see what Hamilton was going to do?

Poker, no sooner have I finished putting a warning into one thread about you turning the topic into a blind defense of Hamilton, than you decide to post to a similar end here in a topic not even about F1, let alone Hamilton. It's a valid comparison, the fact is that Lauda and Wolff weren't especially impressed with Lewis after that crash (nor with Nico, but certainly not more with Nico than Lewis). Both were threatened with the sack if a repeat occurred.

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12472 ... -collision - Just in case you want to claim that Lewis wasn't blamed by the team.

Now, can we get back to discussing Formula E please? And yes, the above comparison can continue to be used, this isn't aimed at everyone.

Sergey Sirotkin, who tested for Mahindra the sunday after the race, said he was impressed by those car's speed at 250 kW, despite the lack of aero!

They look proper quick in quali mode!



Some spectacular highlights


Gen 2 vs Gen 1 lap comparison




Next race, Santiago of Chile. Already next saturday, 26th January!


Source: Formula E

thegamer23 wrote:Sergey Sirotkin, who tested for Mahindra the sunday after the race, said he was impressed by those car's speed at 250 kW, despite the lack of aero!

They look proper quick in quali mode!



Some spectacular highlights


Gen 2 vs Gen 1 lap comparison




Next race, Santiago of Chile. Already next saturday, 26th January!


Source: Formula E

Thanks for the heads up thegamer

It's a pleasure!



Full race of Marrakesh available on YT!

It's so much easier to watch in the UK now channel 5 has finished it's contract. Live on Facebook and YouTube and it helps that BBC are showing it without an exclusive contract. I've not had any issues with the last 2 races watching any sessions live or an catch up, whereas the last 2 years have been horrendous if you missed a live session!

Makes me really look forward to when Sky's contract ends with f1 and the UK get to use f1's streaming service properly.

Anyway, looking forward to Saintiago, was a good race last year and a good track.

Santiago e-Prix coming tomorrow evening, on a brand new street circuit!

Virtual Lap of Santiago


Could be one of the fastest street circuits of FE!


Track Map

source: FE


Standings





Schedule UK TIME

11.00 - FP1 [FACEBOOK, YOUTUBE, BT SPORTS 3]
13.00 - FP2 [FACEBOOK, YOUTUBE, BT SPORTS 3]
14.45- QUALI [BT SPORTS 3, YOUTUBE, EUROSPORT (replay at 17.45)]

RACE [Coverage start 18.30, Race start 19.00]


source: FE tv guide

Can't wait!

It could be one of the best FE tracks so far, so many quick corners!

FP1 starts at 11 uk time!

FP1

FP2



edit: QUALI LIVE NOW

Wow,that was a great race! We'll done Sam, good win.