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Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:42 am
by UnlikeUday
For me,

Hamilton, Ricciardo & Perez

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:43 am
by Llotyhy
UnlikeUday wrote:For me,

Hamilton, Ricciardo & Perez
Yup, that sounds about right, seconded.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:05 am
by Exediron
UnlikeUday wrote:For me,

Hamilton, Ricciardo & Perez
Same for me. I'm guessing there'll be a lot of those.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:32 am
by Zoue
Ricciardo for me

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 7:59 am
by Flash2k11
Hamilton, Ricciardo and Perez

Think it'll be a popular trio

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:02 am
by AnRs
Ricciardo here, hard to judge the Merc duo, cruising around with engines turned down?

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:31 am
by Jezza13
Ricciardo easily DoD today carrying on from his great drive in Russia.

Honorable mentions to Perez & Grosjean.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:38 am
by Paolo_Lasardi
Hamilton and Ricciardo

Would have included Verstappen if not for his manoeuvre against Räikkönen.

Disappointing:
- Vettel - after his driving mistake in qualifying, he got presented P3 on a plate, just to single-handedly destroy this opportunity by yet another driving mistake. It is really getting comical.
- Hartley - started ahead of Gasly but ended up more than 20 s behind him, apparently just by being slow

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:22 pm
by j man
Ricciardo. Some excellent overtaking early in the race which ultimately earned him 4th place ahead of Raikkonen.

Special mention to Perez as well. I thought FI had blown it when they pitted and ended up at the back but the two of them did well to fight back through the midfield.

It also caught my attention that Ericsson was able to make the medium tyres last the rest of the race following his early pitstop while Leclerc was not.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:10 pm
by Exediron
j man wrote:It also caught my attention that Ericsson was able to make the medium tyres last the rest of the race following his early pitstop while Leclerc was not.
Ericsson is very good at making his tyres last. A bit like Markelov in GP2/F2 - I think that's mostly his experience showing, but you do need to have talent on top of the experience.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:22 pm
by Remmirath
Ricciardo, Hamilton, and Perez.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:28 pm
by BMWSauber84
j man wrote:It also caught my attention that Ericsson was able to make the medium tyres last the rest of the race following his early pitstop while Leclerc was not.
Difficult to say for sure because of how badly Leclerc's race was compromised by Magnussen. Had he been running in the position he should have been then I've no doubt he would have been better able to make the tyres last.

In fact Charles would have beaten Marcus confortably even on a two stop had things gone more to plan.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 8:59 pm
by Mort Canard
Hamilton, Ricciardo, & Grosjean
Hamilton and Ricciardo for the same reasons as everyone else.
Grosjean for the way he has turned a dreadful first half of the season around.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:17 pm
by Option or Prime
Ricciardo, great drive after the disappointment of broken engine, and he didn't hit anyone doing it!

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:11 am
by kleefton
j man wrote:Ricciardo. Some excellent overtaking early in the race which ultimately earned him 4th place ahead of Raikkonen.

Special mention to Perez as well. I thought FI had blown it when they pitted and ended up at the back but the two of them did well to fight back through the midfield.

It also caught my attention that Ericsson was able to make the medium tyres last the rest of the race following his early pitstop while Leclerc was not.
Dude Ericsson ran into the back of Leclerc inexplicably and Leclerc got hit by Magnussen. How can you make that comparison? Leclerc's race was compromised so much because if Magnussen didn't cause significant damage to his car, Ericsson certainly did. . And let's face it, he is always in a different league as Ericsson. So whenever they are close, you have to know something is up.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:23 am
by angrypirate
Hamilton Ricciardo and Perez. Who voted for Vettel and why?

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:37 am
by Zoue
angrypirate wrote:Hamilton Ricciardo and Perez. Who voted for Vettel and why?
I didn't vote for him, but it depends whether you consider him at fault for the incident with Max or not. If not, he had a fairly decent comeback and made some good passing moves

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:42 am
by angrypirate
Zoue wrote:
angrypirate wrote:Hamilton Ricciardo and Perez. Who voted for Vettel and why?
I didn't vote for him, but it depends whether you consider him at fault for the incident with Max or not. If not, he had a fairly decent comeback and made some good passing moves
Im yet to hear a sports commentator make an argument that it was entirely Verstappen's fault. General consensus is that its somewhere in the region of partly Vettel's fault to completely Vettels fault. Anyway, theres a separate thread for this

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 8:15 am
by Zoue
angrypirate wrote:
Zoue wrote:
angrypirate wrote:Hamilton Ricciardo and Perez. Who voted for Vettel and why?
I didn't vote for him, but it depends whether you consider him at fault for the incident with Max or not. If not, he had a fairly decent comeback and made some good passing moves
Im yet to hear a sports commentator make an argument that it was entirely Verstappen's fault. General consensus is that its somewhere in the region of partly Vettel's fault to completely Vettels fault. Anyway, theres a separate thread for this
I've heard a few saying it was a racing incident, including Charlie Whiting (although I'd agree that CW's not the most reliable source!), so it depends how much weight you put on a racing incident to affect eligibility for DotD. Regardless, I was just putting forward a potential reason for voting for him. I mean, Max has 3% of the vote at the time of writing despite arguably taking out two Ferraris, so clearly a clean race isn't the be and end all for everyone.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Japanese Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:50 pm
by TheGiantHogweed
kleefton wrote:
j man wrote:Ricciardo. Some excellent overtaking early in the race which ultimately earned him 4th place ahead of Raikkonen.

Special mention to Perez as well. I thought FI had blown it when they pitted and ended up at the back but the two of them did well to fight back through the midfield.

It also caught my attention that Ericsson was able to make the medium tyres last the rest of the race following his early pitstop while Leclerc was not.
Dude Ericsson ran into the back of Leclerc inexplicably and Leclerc got hit by Magnussen. How can you make that comparison? Leclerc's race was compromised so much because if Magnussen didn't cause significant damage to his car, Ericsson certainly did. . And let's face it, he is always in a different league as Ericsson. So whenever they are close, you have to know something is up.
I think j man had a perfectly reasonable point. Ericsson did pretty much no damage to Leclerc when he contacted him, but did to his own car. And Leclerc's comments talking about Ericsson in the interview afterwards was this "Well, in his defence, I think I was also quite surprised by how much everyone slowed down in the last point of breaking, so i nearly went into the car in front and then Marcus probably just ran that bit faster and ran into me. Hopefully it didn't end up any worse than that but I don't think there is anyone to blame there."

Leclerc pitted and got a new front wing (the only part that was damaged by the Magnussen - also neither were deemed at fault more than the other for this). After this, Ericsson did hit Leclerc, but only hit Leclerc's left rear tyre by the look of it. And Leclerc's pace after that still looked decent so given his front wing was fixed form Magnussens's contact and he got didn't really get any damage form Ericsson, I think his car was fine.

While Ericsson's pace wasn't clearly any better than Leclerc's he most certainly did manage his tyres better. While Ericsson isn't good at many things, this is one of the things he is often excellent at. I'd say that overall after they both pitted, Ericsson did a better job. But if that Magnussen clash hadn't happened, I think it is more likely that Leclerc would have beaten him. But then again, Ericsson has a huge amount of experience here even before formula 1. So if Leclerc did struggle a little like he did and Ericsson managed to do a risky strategy, it is also possible that Ericsson would have beaten him.

Also saying always in a different league to Ericsson is a bit silly. More like almost always. and that is in qualifying. There have been at least 5 weekends where Ericsson has looked better overall (one significantly better) and one or two others where their race pace has looked pretty even. In the races, I'd only say he's dominated him in about half of them. He's been much closer or better in some others. Still, I agree Leclerc is way better and will certainly improve.