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Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:31 am
by mikeyg123
pokerman wrote:Vettel got Verstappened?
Verstappen got Vettled.
Actually in fairness I think it was a racing incident.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:31 am
by wolfticket
mikeyg123 wrote:I can't believe we have to lose 5 laps to collect a few bits of debris. Have they forgotten about the VSC?
Actual safety car is needed when they want to bunch up the pack so marshals have time to clear debris on the track itself. VSC doesn't do that.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:32 am
by Fiki
minchy wrote:Fiki wrote:Somewhat surprised by Vettel's penalty, rejoining unsafely is one thing, causing an accident is another.
Did you mean Max's penalty or did I miss something?
Yes. Max causes an accident and is allowed to stay in the race instead of being brought in to serve a penalty, without being able to keep influencing the race of those behind. Which he did in the meantime.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:32 am
by BlackMan
Racing incident? Atleast from the replays it didn't look like Verstappen was the main culprit..
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:33 am
by Johnson
Vettel will have another incident, can’t see him keeping his head here
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:33 am
by mikeyg123
wolfticket wrote:mikeyg123 wrote:I can't believe we have to lose 5 laps to collect a few bits of debris. Have they forgotten about the VSC?
Actual safety car is needed when they want to bunch up the pack so marshals have time to clear debris on the track itself. VSC doesn't do that.
Cars going passed at a pedestrian pace. Shouldn't be a problem for the track to be cleared at the same time.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:33 am
by BMWSauber84
Oh Seb. That was a desperate man drinking at the last chance saloon.
Charles Leclerc is having to deal with some idiotic driving today.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:33 am
by FormulaFun
Vettel???????? Wtf is going on with this guy
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:34 am
by mikeyg123
I don't blame Seb much for that really. He had a chance and he went for it. Coming third to Merc is pointless for him at this stage so he has to take risks.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:34 am
by LBET
Johnson wrote:Vettel will have another incident, can’t see him keeping his head here
Totally agree. All red mist and desparation for Seb.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:35 am
by minchy
Max and Vettel can take a lesson or 2 from Ricciado, that is how you overtake!
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:36 am
by mikeyg123
Such a shame Verstappen has that penalty. Merc are nailed on now.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:36 am
by kleefton
FormulaFun wrote:Vettel???????? Wtf is going on with this guy
It is really shocking how poor he's been. That move was so not on. And against VErstappen too, with a 5 sec penalty. There is just so much wrong with that move.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:37 am
by bourbon19
pokerman wrote:pokerman wrote:Vettel got Verstappened?
No looks like Vettel maybe was bit over ambitious?
Everyone is over ambitious when they try to overtake Verstappen. But one can always knock themselves blaming everyone else (unless it's the driver they support)
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:37 am
by mikeyg123
Vettel's 2018 seems a lot like Hill's 95.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:38 am
by BMWSauber84
mikeyg123 wrote:Such a shame Verstappen has that penalty. Merc are nailed on now.
They looked nailed nailed on anyway tbh. Vettel still has a strong chance of 6th and that's without another safety car or reliability issues elsewhere.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:42 am
by Johnson
Red Bull should 3-4 here, Ricciardo in 3rd maybe
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:43 am
by bourbon19
Why are they saying Charles is complicit? Everybody is not bouncing off the walls like Max. He did a good job at defending a faster car.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:52 am
by BMWSauber84
Kimi's race is being shredded here.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:55 am
by wolfticket
PDR inventing weird steward logic there.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:56 am
by bourbon19
I'm so over DiResta. He "predicts" every possible outcome so he can't be wrong - and then throws in conspiracy theories as a bonus. They do this so we'll miss Martin, I am sure of it.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:57 am
by Fiki
wolfticket wrote:PDR inventing weird steward logic there.
What did he say?
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:57 am
by Johnson
So hard to overtake here, Vettel stuck behind a Renault for ages now
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:59 am
by BlackMan
I'm a bit late with the news. Where's Martin ? Is he ill again...?
On a side note I think Hamilton and Mercedes are aiming for a Grand Chelem here.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:59 am
by wolfticket
Fiki wrote:wolfticket wrote:PDR inventing weird steward logic there.
What did he say?
That whether Vettel got a penalty was based on what track position Ver rejoined the track after his pitstop. For some reason. It was difficult to follow.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:01 am
by Fiki
wolfticket wrote:Fiki wrote:wolfticket wrote:PDR inventing weird steward logic there.
What did he say?
That whether Vettel got a penalty was based on what track position Ver rejoined the track after his pitstop. For some reason. It was difficult to follow.
Let's hope the stewards were clear in their report.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:08 am
by bourbon19
Fiki wrote:wolfticket wrote:PDR inventing weird steward logic there.
What did he say?
That Vettel's penalty was based on Verstappen's track position relative to Kimi after his pitstop. It was bizarre, tin hat nonsense.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:09 am
by Johnson
Does Japan still have its own director, why are we watching a Toro Rosso for a full lap? When Vettel is over Perez
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:14 am
by BlackMan
Johnson wrote:Does Japan still have its own director, why are we watching a Toro Rosso for a full lap? When Vettel is over Perez
They gotta give that turtle engine some screen time ,do they?
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:15 am
by Johnson
Will Ferrari switch Kimi and Vettel? Maybe not even worth it if you weigh the loss (negative press) and gain (2 points when WDC 95% gone).
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:16 am
by lucifers
max starting to catch bottas
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:16 am
by bourbon19
minchy wrote:Max and Vettel can take a lesson or 2 from Ricciado, that is how you overtake!
It's always "Max and.....". Vettel has made a million passes, some of them risky, some of them Alonso (if you know what I mean) and no wrecks. It is not the drivers around him that need the lesson. It is max. I know it is Kimi and Seb today, but that does not turn it into a 2 driver issue.
I won't be surprised if we see yet another incident if he catches Bottas.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:17 am
by minchy
That was a mad cut back from Alonso. Looked like he scared the hell out of Stroll!!!!
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:17 am
by minchy
bourbon19 wrote:minchy wrote:Max and Vettel can take a lesson or 2 from Ricciado, that is how you overtake!
It's always "Max and.....". Vettel has made a million passes, some of them risky, some of them Alonso (if you know what I mean) and no wrecks. It is not the drivers around him that need the lesson. It is max. I know it is Kimi and Seb today, but that does not turn it into a 2 driver issue.
Fair enough
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:20 am
by bourbon19
Let's go safety car...
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:21 am
by AnRs
Merc cruising around..
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:24 am
by BMWSauber84
Mercedes are a bit vulnerable to Verstappen here. Depending on if his tyres last.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:26 am
by mikeyg123
Verstappen's mistake at the chicane was such a shame for the race.
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:26 am
by F1Tyrant
mikeyg123 wrote:Vettel's 2018 seems a lot like Hill's 95.
The revisionists will be out in force come the end of the season. "The SF71H wasn't a genuine title contender." "Mercedes had the strongest package over the season." "Vettel drove well to finish 2nd in the WDC against dominant Mercedes."
Re: 2018 Japanese Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:27 am
by wolfticket
I do like that Alonso still cares so much
