2018 Singapore Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Thread
Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2018 12:48 pm
No one is going to use that tyre in the race really.Zoue wrote:Not a lot of love for the Softs from Ferrari I see
It's been mooted, here's hoping.UnlikeUday wrote:Is the rain expected?
Hasn't it been discussed on this forum that the hardest of the tyres available generally does get used in the race this year?Rockie wrote:No one is going to use that tyre in the race really.Zoue wrote:Not a lot of love for the Softs from Ferrari I see
It's like using the white striped tyre when the res and yellow stripped are available.
mds wrote:Just did some stats on it
Total number of race laps per compound up until and including Great-Britain:Total number of race laps distributed by softest/middle/hardest compound per race:
- Hyper soft: 451
- Ultra soft: 2008
- Super soft: 2846
- Soft: 3596
- Medium: 1677
- Hard: 47
- Super hard: 0
So actually the hardest option is generally the compound favoured most during a race. And by some distance too.
- Softest: 2540
- Middle: 3464
- Hardest: 4621
mds wrote: Amount of races a compound was the preferred race tyre (vs was available during a weekend):
– hyper soft: 0/2
– ultra soft: 1/7
– super soft: 4/8
– soft: 4/8
– medium: 1/4
– hard: 0/1
Yeah, that was my thinking. Not much wiggle room for strategy adjustments.JN23 wrote:The hypersofts! Haven't seen them for a while.
Only one set of softs each for Ferrari, have they made the same mistake as in Monza?
All the races the hypersoft has been used no one competitive has used the hardest compound.Mort Canard wrote:Yeah, that was my thinking. Not much wiggle room for strategy adjustments.JN23 wrote:The hypersofts! Haven't seen them for a while.
Only one set of softs each for Ferrari, have they made the same mistake as in Monza?
Be that as it may, if you have a first lap shunt, you may want to put on the hardest available compound to make a run all the way to the end of the race. I would like to at least have two sets of those harder compounds. One set to test during free practice and one set for the race. It's about preserving your options for unforeseen events rather than optimum pre-planned race strategy.Rockie wrote:All the races the hypersoft has been used no one competitive has used the hardest compound.Mort Canard wrote:Yeah, that was my thinking. Not much wiggle room for strategy adjustments.JN23 wrote:The hypersofts! Haven't seen them for a while.
Only one set of softs each for Ferrari, have they made the same mistake as in Monza?
Yes, thunderstorms. Mere 'rain' very unlikely. Periods of 'cats and dogs' or 'bucketing down' extremely likely.Lukeism wrote:I think scattered thunderstorms are looking more likely the closer we get.
Not for the top teams.Mort Canard wrote:Be that as it may, if you have a first lap shunt, you may want to put on the hardest available compound to make a run all the way to the end of the race. I would like to at least have two sets of those harder compounds. One set to test during free practice and one set for the race. It's about preserving your options for unforeseen events rather than optimum pre-planned race strategy.Rockie wrote:All the races the hypersoft has been used no one competitive has used the hardest compound.Mort Canard wrote:Yeah, that was my thinking. Not much wiggle room for strategy adjustments.JN23 wrote:The hypersofts! Haven't seen them for a while.
Only one set of softs each for Ferrari, have they made the same mistake as in Monza?
There is a military truism that battle plans don't often survive intact after the first contact with the enemy
Whatever!Rockie wrote:Not for the top teams.Mort Canard wrote:Be that as it may, if you have a first lap shunt, you may want to put on the hardest available compound to make a run all the way to the end of the race. I would like to at least have two sets of those harder compounds. One set to test during free practice and one set for the race. It's about preserving your options for unforeseen events rather than optimum pre-planned race strategy.Rockie wrote:All the races the hypersoft has been used no one competitive has used the hardest compound.Mort Canard wrote:Yeah, that was my thinking. Not much wiggle room for strategy adjustments.JN23 wrote:The hypersofts! Haven't seen them for a while.
Only one set of softs each for Ferrari, have they made the same mistake as in Monza?
There is a military truism that battle plans don't often survive intact after the first contact with the enemy
Safety cars or virtual safety cars will be Mercedes' best chance here. I think they need to try to go long for the first stint and not stop until the safety cars factor in. A VSC can completely change the outcome here and overtaking here is unbelievably hard.UnlikeUday wrote:Some interesting stats:
- Sebastian Vettel is the record holder for most Singapore GP wins and poles (4 each), and has led the most laps in Marina Bay history (221). Vettel led the Singapore GP from start-to-finish in 2011, 2013 and 2015, with the 2013 race being a grand slam victory (led every lap from pole with fastest lap).
- Monza pole-sitter Kimi Raikkonen has never qualified on the front row in eight previous visits to Singapore, and has only outqualified a team mate twice here (2009, 2016).
- Daniel Ricciardo has finished on the podium at Singapore in all four of his previous visits with Red Bull – the only circuit on which he has achieved this – although he has never won at Marina Bay and he’s only ever led one lap here (in 2014).
- Pole position is vitally important here. In the last nine Singapore GPs the pole-sitter has won seven times, with the exceptions being 2012, when Lewis Hamilton’s McLaren broke down while he was leading the race from pole, and 2017, when Sebastian Vettel was hit within 150 metres of the start.
- The Safety Car has appeared in every Marina Bay F1 race ever held, with 12 laps of Safety Car running last season (more than 20% of the entire race). Furthermore, Lap 1 accidents have caused a Safety Car deployment in each of the last two years.
I agree with you sandman that it is Mercedes best chance but I wonder how many of those safety cars have been on the first lap.sandman1347 wrote:Safety cars or virtual safety cars will be Mercedes' best chance here. I think they need to try to go long for the first stint and not stop until the safety cars factor in. A VSC can completely change the outcome here and overtaking here is unbelievably hard.UnlikeUday wrote:Some interesting stats:
- Sebastian Vettel is the record holder for most Singapore GP wins and poles (4 each), and has led the most laps in Marina Bay history (221). Vettel led the Singapore GP from start-to-finish in 2011, 2013 and 2015, with the 2013 race being a grand slam victory (led every lap from pole with fastest lap).
- Monza pole-sitter Kimi Raikkonen has never qualified on the front row in eight previous visits to Singapore, and has only outqualified a team mate twice here (2009, 2016).
- Daniel Ricciardo has finished on the podium at Singapore in all four of his previous visits with Red Bull – the only circuit on which he has achieved this – although he has never won at Marina Bay and he’s only ever led one lap here (in 2014).
- Pole position is vitally important here. In the last nine Singapore GPs the pole-sitter has won seven times, with the exceptions being 2012, when Lewis Hamilton’s McLaren broke down while he was leading the race from pole, and 2017, when Sebastian Vettel was hit within 150 metres of the start.
- The Safety Car has appeared in every Marina Bay F1 race ever held, with 12 laps of Safety Car running last season (more than 20% of the entire race). Furthermore, Lap 1 accidents have caused a Safety Car deployment in each of the last two years.
In the end, he had to pit as the car suffered from hydraulic issues!pokerman wrote:So Vandoorne is trying out a new floor and they change it during FP1 causing him to miss just about all of the session, I'm baffled.
They are far removed from what they once were.UnlikeUday wrote:In the end, he had to pit as the car suffered from hydraulic issues!pokerman wrote:So Vandoorne is trying out a new floor and they change it during FP1 causing him to miss just about all of the session, I'm baffled.
The Red Bulls really do look to have fallen off the pace now and the Merc and Ferarri look pretty close, closer then I and many others suspected maybe. And when will commentators learn, no sooner had Coft crowned Vettel king of Singapore than he bumped a wall.F1_Ernie wrote:It's abit quiet in here today, Hamilton been locking up a few times, Vettel has hit the wall and losing liquid.
Hamilton has locked up two different sets of HS but the second set didn't look to bad. Vettel looks like he has a radiator problem and has got out the car, seemed to be taking the most risks with the walls.Lojik wrote:The Red Bulls really do look to have fallen off the pace now and the Merc and Ferarri look pretty close, closer then I and many others suspected maybe. And when will commentators learn, no sooner had Coft crowned Vettel king of Singapore than he bumped a wall.F1_Ernie wrote:It's abit quiet in here today, Hamilton been locking up a few times, Vettel has hit the wall and losing liquid.
Even if Red Bull are a little weak, they could be contention nonetheless as a safety car intrusion is a surety here.sandman1347 wrote:Looks like the form book may have changed here. Red Bull not so strong, Mercedes not so weak.
FormulaFun wrote:Another day another mistake from vettel