2018 German Grand Prix Race Thread
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It should be.UnlikeUday wrote:Tomorrow's going to be an exciting race!
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Hamilton has now given himself the chance to get a huge chunk of the DOTD votes. Probably will get more than Bottas if he finishes in the top 5 and Bottas finishes where he started. if drivers want to get votes on this site, they will know starting lower down the grid on a track that is not too hard to overtake on will likely get them plenty compared to keeping it clean and staying near the top the whole time 

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TheGiantHogweed wrote:Hamilton has now given himself the chance to get a huge chunk of the DOTD votes. Probably will get more than Bottas if he finishes in the top 5 and Bottas finishes where he started. if drivers want to get votes on this site, they will know starting lower down the grid on a track that is not too hard to overtake on will likely get them plenty compared to keeping it clean and staying near the top the whole time
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I know that some reports have changed since I wrote this, but this is basically true that drivers do tend to get a lot more votes if they happen to fall back then climb up again. Just because that happens (and even when it is the drivers fault that they are low down), it isn't enough of a reason to me to vote them over their team mate if their team mate has been solid up at the front but not much has changed. Just saying this as it has happened a lot with many drivers in the past on this thread.Invade wrote:TheGiantHogweed wrote:Hamilton has now given himself the chance to get a huge chunk of the DOTD votes. Probably will get more than Bottas if he finishes in the top 5 and Bottas finishes where he started. if drivers want to get votes on this site, they will know starting lower down the grid on a track that is not too hard to overtake on will likely get them plenty compared to keeping it clean and staying near the top the whole time
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What will Mercedes do? starting 14th is pretty risky. I would not be surprised if they replace the gearbox and start at the back. It all depends on how bad the gearbox and PU suffered due to the bumps and the hydraulic leaks.
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There are 2 contradicting weather reports for the race today:
- The temperature might be close to 30 degrees C making it a hot afternoon. As per Friday runs which were run in similar temperature, the tyres were suffering as bad as they did in Austria. There was heavy blistering on the rear tyres on Friday. This means those starting on Ultrasofts will not be able to retain their tyres for long. Most of the teams will also opt for 2 stop strategies due to heavy tyre wear.
- There is a good chance of thundershowers during the 1st half of the race.
- The temperature might be close to 30 degrees C making it a hot afternoon. As per Friday runs which were run in similar temperature, the tyres were suffering as bad as they did in Austria. There was heavy blistering on the rear tyres on Friday. This means those starting on Ultrasofts will not be able to retain their tyres for long. Most of the teams will also opt for 2 stop strategies due to heavy tyre wear.
- There is a good chance of thundershowers during the 1st half of the race.
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Provisional Grid:
1 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari
2 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes
3 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari
4 Max Verstappen Red Bull
5 Kevin Magnussen Haas
6 Romain Grosjean Haas
7 Nico Hulkenberg Renault
8 Carlos Sainz Renault
9 Charles Leclerc Sauber
10 Sergio Perez Force India
11 Fernando Alonso McLaren
12 Sergey Sirotkin Williams
13 Marcus Ericsson Sauber
14 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
15 Esteban Ocon Force India
16 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso
17 Brendon Hartley Toro Rosso
18 Lance Stroll Williams
19 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
20 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull
1 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari
2 Valtteri Bottas Mercedes
3 Kimi Raikkonen Ferrari
4 Max Verstappen Red Bull
5 Kevin Magnussen Haas
6 Romain Grosjean Haas
7 Nico Hulkenberg Renault
8 Carlos Sainz Renault
9 Charles Leclerc Sauber
10 Sergio Perez Force India
11 Fernando Alonso McLaren
12 Sergey Sirotkin Williams
13 Marcus Ericsson Sauber
14 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
15 Esteban Ocon Force India
16 Pierre Gasly Toro Rosso
17 Brendon Hartley Toro Rosso
18 Lance Stroll Williams
19 Stoffel Vandoorne McLaren
20 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull
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Yeah agree, realistically they'll still be able to finish P5/6 at worst and I think they'd start ahead of Ricciardo as Hamilton was ahead of him officially from memory. Get another PU in the bank too.Thebusinessmuppet wrote:What will Mercedes do? starting 14th is pretty risky. I would not be surprised if they replace the gearbox and start at the back. It all depends on how bad the gearbox and PU suffered due to the bumps and the hydraulic leaks.
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They can't get another PU in the bank because they've only used 2 so far so the next will be their 3rd, which doesn't incur any penalty. They'll only get the penalty when they put in the 4th.JN23 wrote:Yeah agree, realistically they'll still be able to finish P5/6 at worst and I think they'd start ahead of Ricciardo as Hamilton was ahead of him officially from memory. Get another PU in the bank too.Thebusinessmuppet wrote:What will Mercedes do? starting 14th is pretty risky. I would not be surprised if they replace the gearbox and start at the back. It all depends on how bad the gearbox and PU suffered due to the bumps and the hydraulic leaks.
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Oh yes, good point. If they're confident there is no issue with the PU/gearbox then they should just start 14th then.Black_Flag_11 wrote:They can't get another PU in the bank because they've only used 2 so far so the next will be their 3rd, which doesn't incur any penalty. They'll only get the penalty when they put in the 4th.JN23 wrote:Yeah agree, realistically they'll still be able to finish P5/6 at worst and I think they'd start ahead of Ricciardo as Hamilton was ahead of him officially from memory. Get another PU in the bank too.Thebusinessmuppet wrote:What will Mercedes do? starting 14th is pretty risky. I would not be surprised if they replace the gearbox and start at the back. It all depends on how bad the gearbox and PU suffered due to the bumps and the hydraulic leaks.
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So, in hindsight, it is wise to use 3 engines in first three races, and then just wait for the chance to get 4th and 5th for "free"?JN23 wrote:Oh yes, good point. If they're confident there is no issue with the PU/gearbox then they should just start 14th then.Black_Flag_11 wrote:They can't get another PU in the bank because they've only used 2 so far so the next will be their 3rd, which doesn't incur any penalty. They'll only get the penalty when they put in the 4th.JN23 wrote:Yeah agree, realistically they'll still be able to finish P5/6 at worst and I think they'd start ahead of Ricciardo as Hamilton was ahead of him officially from memory. Get another PU in the bank too.Thebusinessmuppet wrote:What will Mercedes do? starting 14th is pretty risky. I would not be surprised if they replace the gearbox and start at the back. It all depends on how bad the gearbox and PU suffered due to the bumps and the hydraulic leaks.
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Not necessarily because that means your original three engines are all going to be the same spec thenLt. Drebin wrote:So, in hindsight, it is wise to use 3 engines in first three races, and then just wait for the chance to get 4th and 5th for "free"?JN23 wrote:Oh yes, good point. If they're confident there is no issue with the PU/gearbox then they should just start 14th then.Black_Flag_11 wrote:They can't get another PU in the bank because they've only used 2 so far so the next will be their 3rd, which doesn't incur any penalty. They'll only get the penalty when they put in the 4th.JN23 wrote:Yeah agree, realistically they'll still be able to finish P5/6 at worst and I think they'd start ahead of Ricciardo as Hamilton was ahead of him officially from memory. Get another PU in the bank too.Thebusinessmuppet wrote:What will Mercedes do? starting 14th is pretty risky. I would not be surprised if they replace the gearbox and start at the back. It all depends on how bad the gearbox and PU suffered due to the bumps and the hydraulic leaks.
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Yes, I forgot that moment.JN23 wrote:Not necessarily because that means your original three engines are all going to be the same spec thenLt. Drebin wrote:So, in hindsight, it is wise to use 3 engines in first three races, and then just wait for the chance to get 4th and 5th for "free"?JN23 wrote:Oh yes, good point. If they're confident there is no issue with the PU/gearbox then they should just start 14th then.Black_Flag_11 wrote:They can't get another PU in the bank because they've only used 2 so far so the next will be their 3rd, which doesn't incur any penalty. They'll only get the penalty when they put in the 4th.JN23 wrote:
Yeah agree, realistically they'll still be able to finish P5/6 at worst and I think they'd start ahead of Ricciardo as Hamilton was ahead of him officially from memory. Get another PU in the bank too.
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Gasly will start from the pitlane.
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He tweets that he'll start last, so I think he'll be on the grid after all. They changed everything except the battery.
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Nat Pinkham looking stunning as usual wearing a lovely off the shoulder floral number while giving us a great insight to the expected weather outlook for the race.
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Oh dear, I guess they can sort that before race start, else we are going to see (hear) a very grumpy Hamilton.F1_Ernie wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/BerrageizF1/ ... 65728?s=19
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This program on sky with Button and Hamilton. In the back of a car. Are they on a private road or something? as they are not wearing any seat belts and look to be going at a reasonable speed. Maybe it is staged and the road is closed off. Are they actually in the car to get somewhere ir purely just for show?
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^^^^^ Some context to go along with the link would be a lot more helpfulF1_Ernie wrote:https://mobile.twitter.com/BerrageizF1/ ... 65728?s=19
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I have never seen a driver take comfort in DOTD standings even when they dragged a car from the back of the pack to a podium finish. Look at Lewis at Silverstone. All the fans were happy over a great drive and all Lewis could see is that he had been deprived of a sure victory.TheGiantHogweed wrote:Hamilton has now given himself the chance to get a huge chunk of the DOTD votes. Probably will get more than Bottas if he finishes in the top 5 and Bottas finishes where he started. if drivers want to get votes on this site, they will know starting lower down the grid on a track that is not too hard to overtake on will likely get them plenty compared to keeping it clean and staying near the top the whole time
Yes, voters will often give their votes to a driver who carves his way forward after starting at the back. Such drives are often sited as a measure of a drivers greatness at being able to overcome adversity. Given today's difficulty with passing, a pole position to checkered flag victory is often seen as a snoozer. Still no driver will ever start any farther back than he has to just so he can achieve a greater degree of glory in the eyes of the press or the fans.
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Well obviously. Hamilton will have to do more right to finish third today than Bottas will to finish second. Assuming a straight forward race.TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know that some reports have changed since I wrote this, but this is basically true that drivers do tend to get a lot more votes if they happen to fall back then climb up again. Just because that happens (and even when it is the drivers fault that they are low down), it isn't enough of a reason to me to vote them over their team mate if their team mate has been solid up at the front but not much has changed. Just saying this as it has happened a lot with many drivers in the past on this thread.Invade wrote:TheGiantHogweed wrote:Hamilton has now given himself the chance to get a huge chunk of the DOTD votes. Probably will get more than Bottas if he finishes in the top 5 and Bottas finishes where he started. if drivers want to get votes on this site, they will know starting lower down the grid on a track that is not too hard to overtake on will likely get them plenty compared to keeping it clean and staying near the top the whole time
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i do know that they wouldn't do this yes. But it was like Brazil last year. On another site, hamilton got the DOTW vote. He finished 2 places behind Bottas due to his own mistake. Bottas's weekend was clearly better and he got vertually no votes compared to Hamilton despite getting pole. That is my point. I first thought this mistake yesterday was Hamilton's cause. I still think he is partially to blame for this.It often is the case that drivers at the back that climb up get more votes. But yes, no driver would try to do this. Obviously.Mort Canard wrote:I have never seen a driver take comfort in DOTD standings even when they dragged a car from the back of the pack to a podium finish. Look at Lewis at Silverstone. All the fans were happy over a great drive and all Lewis could see is that he had been deprived of a sure victory.TheGiantHogweed wrote:Hamilton has now given himself the chance to get a huge chunk of the DOTD votes. Probably will get more than Bottas if he finishes in the top 5 and Bottas finishes where he started. if drivers want to get votes on this site, they will know starting lower down the grid on a track that is not too hard to overtake on will likely get them plenty compared to keeping it clean and staying near the top the whole time
Yes, voters will often give their votes to a driver who carves his way forward after starting at the back. Such drives are often sited as a measure of a drivers greatness at being able to overcome adversity. Given today's difficulty with passing, a pole position to checkered flag victory is often seen as a snoozer. Still no driver will ever start any farther back than he has to just so he can achieve a greater degree of glory in the eyes of the press or the fans.
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I might be a bit hopeful, but...
Please rain!
Please rain!
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Watch it rain when the race finishespurchville wrote:I might be a bit hopeful, but...
Please rain!

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2017: 4th place
2018: 12th place
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2017: 4th place
2018: 12th place
Wins: Spain 2016, Canada 2017, Malaysia 2017
Podiums: 2nd Germany 2016, 3rd Mexico 2016, 3rd China 2018, 3rd Japan 2018, 2nd Mexico 2018
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Now, are we talking rain after the flag, or Brazil 2008 style?F1_Ernie wrote:Watch it rain when the race finishespurchville wrote:I might be a bit hopeful, but...
Please rain!

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Seems that all of the top ten teams are starting on the UltraSofts. If the USs go off pretty quickly, (especially in hot conditions) a lot of them could end up fighing their way through back markers who started on the softs.
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Feel like Bottas will win this one. Either off the start or through the pit stop phase.
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Please rain.
Please, please, please.
Please, please, please.
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What the heck were they thinking about with that totally ghastly mangling of the National Anthem. Total contrast to the classy anthem ceremony by the French the other week.
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ready...steady...
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Look at the clouds!!!!!!!!!! Your wish may turn true.Jezza13 wrote:Please rain.
Please, please, please.
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awesome start from all! 

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congrats to all drivers that what we like to seeneek wrote:awesome start from all!
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spots of rain 

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Alonso actually just letting Hamilton pass. So frustrating to watch.