2018 German Grand Prix Race Thread

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chetan_rao wrote:Merc definitely called Lewis in (radio broadcast), so what's the scenario with an intentional abort after crossing the pit entry marker?
He'll get away with it because of who he is, but that's probably not okay.

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Black_Flag_11 wrote:
VDV23 wrote:
lucifers wrote:will Hamilton tyres last 10+ laps
They should.

The more interesting part is that Mercedes were adamant, he should come in and he overruled them and stayed out.
He's probably right, track position is king.
China 2018 disagrees.

Bottas (and Kimi) would be massively quicker. I suspect both them might pass him, and the off chance of Max having a go as well.

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Merc are stupid if they let Bottas get by. Don't make the same mistake that Ferrari did last time.

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Hamiltons just run off now
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Bottas' poor racecraft shown again there, he just can't hang with the top guys in wheel to wheel situations.

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And Ferrari once again snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. Or is it just Vetter?

Nice move giving everything to Hamilton in the plate...

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chetan_rao wrote:Merc definitely called Lewis in (radio broadcast), so what's the scenario with an intentional abort after crossing the pit entry marker?

tbf, that radio call was quite questionable, with bono giving conflicting messages
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Ocon wrote:Merc are stupid if they let Bottas get by. Don't make the same mistake that Ferrari did last time.
? Ferrari's mistake was not letting the driver with fresher tyres past.

I agree it would be silly because Hamilton is their championship challenger, but your reference to Ferrari doesn't make sense.

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Maranello1 wrote:
frankwer wrote:Hamilton is a far far superior driver then Vettel. Ferrari need to get a better driver.
That would be true if the weather was like this every race ;-)
Maybe Vettel could win the championship if Lewis had to start from the back every time. I think that's why he was so angry, he knows this was his chance to distance himself.

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Team orders from Merc

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ocon in 7th

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Mod Titanium wrote:
chetan_rao wrote:Merc definitely called Lewis in (radio broadcast), so what's the scenario with an intentional abort after crossing the pit entry marker?

tbf, that radio call was quite questionable, with bono giving conflicting messages
Looked like they wanted the other car in, but they made the call nonetheless.

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Bottas taking team orders like a boss.

And he's doing great job protecting Lewis.

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Ocon wrote:Merc are stupid if they let Bottas get by. Don't make the same mistake that Ferrari did last time.
The battle makes for more entertainment and fate owes Bottas a win. But from a championship standpoint, Bottas needs to be a blocker to Kimi and allow Hamilton to win.

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Hamilton much faster on much older tyres. His pace is simply unparalleled.

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Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Ocon wrote:Merc are stupid if they let Bottas get by. Don't make the same mistake that Ferrari did last time.
? Ferrari's mistake was not letting the driver with fresher tyres past.

I agree it would be silly because Hamilton is their championship challenger, but your reference to Ferrari doesn't make sense.
I meant that Ferrari should have made Kimi let him by that time not long ago, I can't remember which race it was.

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VDV23 wrote:Bottas taking team orders like a boss.

And he's doing great job protecting Lewis.
For him professionally, this is as good as a win.

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VDV23 wrote:Bottas taking team orders like a boss.

And he's doing great job protecting Lewis.
Can you imagine Hamilton getting given that message had Bottas got past? Not a chance in hell he would have complied. Same with Kimi/Vettel earlier in the race.

You'll never be a championship challenger with that attitude.

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Black_Flag_11 wrote:Bottas' poor racecraft shown again there, he just can't hang with the top guys in wheel to wheel situations.
I don't think Bottas did anything wrong. He had a go and Hamilton positioned perfectly.
Without risking a really stupid accident, what else did you want him to do?

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FrusEldar wrote:And Ferrari once again snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. Or is it just Vetter?

Nice move giving everything to Hamilton in the plate...
Well Vettel is driving the car, I don't see how Ferrari have done anything wrong.

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blhsing wrote:Hamilton much faster on much older tyres. His pace is simply unparalleled.
He has been superb all race. I know he got lucky with the events in the race, but in the wet on slicks he was by far the fastest guy and he kept it on the track. One of his best wins in the making me thinks.

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It is a response to how much performance the Ferrari has shown recently. Every point crucial.

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Black_Flag_11 wrote:
VDV23 wrote:Bottas taking team orders like a boss.

And he's doing great job protecting Lewis.
Can you imagine Hamilton getting given that message had Bottas got past? Not a chance in hell he would have complied. Same with Kimi/Vettel earlier in the race.

You'll never be a championship challenger with that attitude.
I think Hamilton would have complied

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Laz_T800 wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:Bottas' poor racecraft shown again there, he just can't hang with the top guys in wheel to wheel situations.
I don't think Bottas did anything wrong. He had a go and Hamilton positioned perfectly.
Without risking a really stupid accident, what else did you want him to do?
Reverse positions with Bottas in front and Hamilton behind and Hamilton gets past. Hamilton would have braked that little later or got on the power that little earlier out of the hairpin etc.

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Get in Lewis, what a comeback!

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Win number 44 :)

Good on ya Hammy!

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YEEEEEEEEEESSSSS!!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA

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you can’t make up a better drama story for the Wdc title then this
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I'm at a loss to decide who the driver of the day was. Bernd Mayländer, or Jock Clear?
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Oh god that was almost as cringey as Vettel's radio messages following a win :lol:

What a mad race!

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blhsing wrote:Hamilton much faster on much older tyres. His pace is simply unparalleled.
Bottas had the faster card w/ 11 laps fresher tyres but his job was not to challenge HAM but to keep Kimi at bay. So simply unparalleled is quite the hyperbole.

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Amazing what a bit of H2O does to a race eh?
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Wow! Vintage Lewis these last couple of races. Hard charging and to pull off a win from 14th is no mean fete. One of his best performances all around.

Gutted for Seb. Really he wasn't being careless there. He just got it slightly wrong and was punished mercilessly.

Great season!

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Black_Flag_11 wrote:
Laz_T800 wrote:
Black_Flag_11 wrote:Bottas' poor racecraft shown again there, he just can't hang with the top guys in wheel to wheel situations.
I don't think Bottas did anything wrong. He had a go and Hamilton positioned perfectly.
Without risking a really stupid accident, what else did you want him to do?
Reverse positions with Bottas in front and Hamilton behind and Hamilton gets past. Hamilton would have braked that little later or got on the power that little earlier out of the hairpin etc.
I think Bottas could have been more agressive, it's just that he was afraid of doing anything that could jeopardize Hamiltons race.

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Unreal.

When Seb crashed I was about as shocked as I've been all year... or longer. Unreal.

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Did Hamilton or Mercedes make the decision to not pit under the safety car?

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VDV23 wrote:
blhsing wrote:Hamilton much faster on much older tyres. His pace is simply unparalleled.
Bottas had the faster card w/ 11 laps fresher tyres but his job was not to challenge HAM but to keep Kimi at bay. So simply unparalleled is quite the hyperbole.
If that's the case, why did he try to pass him? I agree his pace is unparalled.

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what i don't get is why they pitted Bottas and then tell him not to pass Hamilton. Was it a way to allow hamilton through? 'm not saying Hmilton didn't deserve the win, but again, Bottas has to suffer from not being able to try and attempt to pass throughout the rest of the race. At this stage of the championship, I guess it was right to limit what Bottas did. But again, given he had a chance to win before he pitted, I'm unsure the reason why things went the way they did. Unlucky again.

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Hamilton yesterday: "To those who take joy in seeing other people fail or suffer, I feel for you.'"

His fans today: "Who cares, let's laugh at Vettel."
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