Driver(s) of the Day - 2018 Austrian Grand Prix

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Driver(s) of the day was / were:-

1. Lewis Hamilton
5
3%
2. Valtteri Bottas
2
1%
3. Sebastian Vettel
13
9%
4. Kimi Raikkonen
27
18%
5. Daniel Ricciardo
0
No votes
6. Max Verstappen
38
25%
7. Sergio Perez
0
No votes
8. Esteban Ocon
0
No votes
9. Sergey Sirotkin
0
No votes
10. Lance Stroll
0
No votes
11. Fernando Alonso
27
18%
12. Stoffel Vandoorne
0
No votes
13. Pierre Gasly
0
No votes
14. Brandon Hartley
1
1%
15. Romain Grosjean
22
14%
16. Kevin Magnussen
6
4%
17. Nico Hulkenberg
1
1%
18. Carlos Sainz
0
No votes
19. Marcus Ericsson
5
3%
20. Charles Leclerc
5
3%
 
Total votes: 152

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For me,

Verstappen, Alonso & Ericsson
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Vettel, purely because we don't often see one-on-one moves between world champions in similar cars, specially one being put on Lewis Hamilton. And then ensuring he pushed him to the edge of the track. Damn, that was a lesson for Rosberg-2016.

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Kimi, max and alonso

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Verstappen, Grosjean and Leclerc

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Verstappen, Alonso (pitlane to 8 in a McLaren!), Grosjean (finally!), Räikkönen, Magnussen, Ericsson

Disappointing: Mercedes - no words

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Went with Vettel.

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Verstappen, Grosjean and Alonso, for me.
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Llotyhy wrote:Verstappen, Grosjean and Leclerc
Seriously?

He made some costly mistakes, was slower than his team mate and got a lesson in race management by Alonso in a slower car.


Max,RoGro and Alonso for me.
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Verstappen, Raikkonen, Vettel, Grosjean

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IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:Vettel, purely because we don't often see one-on-one moves between world champions in similar cars, specially one being put on Lewis Hamilton. And then ensuring he pushed him to the edge of the track. Damn, that was a lesson for Rosberg-2016.
Yes a superb passing move. Very brave to commit to the inside after Hamilton attempted to close the gap and then made sure Hamilton couldn't come back at him in the next straight. Perfectly executed.

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If Kimi hadn't made such a ham's fist of the opening laps I may have gone for him. Was very strong later in the race and at one point looked like he'd have a sniff at the lead. But the beginning severely compromised him. He lost places through his own errors and that cost him dear. Vettel also looked a little lacklustre at one point in clear air but lapping slower than those in front of him. Can't give it to him. I only saw a bit of his race but Alonso impressed me and was weighing up to give it to him. But in the end I gave it to Max because he had to be really careful with a slowly deteriorating left rear and managed that really well. Must have been a lot of pressure and he kept his cool

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Lotus49 wrote:
Llotyhy wrote:Verstappen, Grosjean and Leclerc
Seriously?

He made some costly mistakes, was slower than his team mate and got a lesson in race management by Alonso in a slower car.


Max,RoGro and Alonso for me.
He wasn't slower than his team mate.

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Verstappen just edges it for me, he really had the third best car today judging from Ricciardo's struggles prior to his DNF.

Notable performances from Vettel and Alonso too.

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Kimi and the Haas drivers
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Hilarious. There's a vote for Hamilton already

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mikeyg123 wrote:
Lotus49 wrote:
Llotyhy wrote:Verstappen, Grosjean and Leclerc
Seriously?

He made some costly mistakes, was slower than his team mate and got a lesson in race management by Alonso in a slower car.


Max,RoGro and Alonso for me.
He wasn't slower than his team mate.
Yes he was.
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I see the repeat offender voting for Hamilton has struck again...

There were much better drives out there today. Some even managed to go more than 5 minutes without destroying their tyres.

Ericsson was a highlight for me. Verstappen drove very well to manage his tyres and win in a Red Bull at their worst track.

I thought Raikkonen performed well too, even if he napped at the start. His tyres looked great the whole race.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
Lotus49 wrote:
Llotyhy wrote:Verstappen, Grosjean and Leclerc
Seriously?

He made some costly mistakes, was slower than his team mate and got a lesson in race management by Alonso in a slower car.


Max,RoGro and Alonso for me.
He wasn't slower than his team mate.
Did he really need CL to let him through, I think he'd have got him sooner or later. If I'm wrong I'll take that one back.
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Still, Leclerc finished ahead. A lot of good passes.

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Mr-E wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Lotus49 wrote:
Llotyhy wrote:Verstappen, Grosjean and Leclerc
Seriously?

He made some costly mistakes, was slower than his team mate and got a lesson in race management by Alonso in a slower car.


Max,RoGro and Alonso for me.
He wasn't slower than his team mate.
Yes he was.
They were on different strategies as Leclerc pitted under the VSC and Ericsson didn't, so hard to make a direct comparison. Without team orders though I think Ericsson would have finished ahead, I'm a little confused that they swapped the drivers back over when Ericsson could have passed him on his own merit anyway. I think Force India did the same thing.

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Zoue wrote:Hilarious. There's a vote for Hamilton already
There's always a few joke votes. Bottas has one too.

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I'm not a fan of this letting your team mate through to have a go at someone ahead and then having to give the place back. Surely both Perez and Ericsson would've got their team mates without being waved by but because they jumped out the way they get the place back they were never going to keep in the first place.
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Why are people only bringing up FI in the comparison? Mercedes has done it as well.
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Checo also deserves a mention. Struggled yesterday enough to be eliminated in Q1. Started 17th & finished in 7th. Fair play as well as Ocon let him get past to try catch Magnussen. When not possible, Checo in the end slowed down to let Ocon through to finish in 6th.
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Llotyhy wrote:Still, Leclerc finished ahead. A lot of good passes.
Ahead because he got given the place back. And he didn't finish ahead of Alonso despite Alonso starting in the pitlane in a slower car.

Driver of the day my eye. He's been superb up until this weekend but the Sauber isn't the slowest car anymore and he could've been much higher up without those offs and better stint management.
"Clark came through at the end of the first lap so far ahead that we in the pits were convinced that the rest of the field must have been wiped out in an accident."
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RaggedMan wrote:Why are people only bringing up FI in the comparison? Mercedes has done it as well.
Talking about today and anyway Bottas could've kept Lewis behind in Hungary for the rest of the race. No chance Ocon on those tyres keeps Perez behind and no chance Leclerc does with Ericsson either so they got freebies imo.
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j man wrote:
Zoue wrote:Hilarious. There's a vote for Hamilton already
There's always a few joke votes. Bottas has one too.
Not sure what’s funny. Not like it was Hamilton or Bottas fault that the cars failed or the strategy was abysmal.

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UnlikeUday wrote:Checo also deserves a mention. Struggled yesterday enough to be eliminated in Q1. Started 17th & finished in 7th. Fair play as well as Ocon let him get past to try catch Magnussen. When not possible, Checo in the end slowed down to let Ocon through to finish in 6th.
Wow, that is good team work. Same what Mercedes did in Hungary last year. 8)
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davidheath461 wrote:
j man wrote:
Zoue wrote:Hilarious. There's a vote for Hamilton already
There's always a few joke votes. Bottas has one too.
Not sure what’s funny. Not like it was Hamilton or Bottas fault that the cars failed or the strategy was abysmal.
or that he got overtaken? er, ok

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j man wrote:
Mr-E wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Lotus49 wrote:
Llotyhy wrote:Verstappen, Grosjean and Leclerc
Seriously?

He made some costly mistakes, was slower than his team mate and got a lesson in race management by Alonso in a slower car.


Max,RoGro and Alonso for me.
He wasn't slower than his team mate.
Yes he was.
They were on different strategies as Leclerc pitted under the VSC and Ericsson didn't, so hard to make a direct comparison. Without team orders though I think Ericsson would have finished ahead, I'm a little confused that they swapped the drivers back over when Ericsson could have passed him on his own merit anyway. I think Force India did the same thing.
Well, I know this is DOTD, but if we include Saturday too, Leclerc prevented Ericsson from improving on his final attempt by running onto the gravel. Ericsson was up in the first sector than had to abort. Ericsson being 20th is partly his fault for not getting a good lap soon enough, but also partly Leclerc for ruining his attempt. So I think Ericsson was due a bit of luck of moving up 2 places and starting 18th, which he got. Leclerc clearly did do better as he qualified much higher. His start was ok but he ran off track and potentually ruined his chance of doing the same strategy as Ericsson. From when Ericsson pitted, he was far faster. And if Sauber had instantly let Ericsson through, 8th place will have been almost guarenteed. As Lotus49 said, even if they had no team orders, it is very unlikely that Ericsson wouldn't have passed. I personally think it is rather unfair that Ericsson had to return that position.

I'd say this weekends performance could possibly go towards Ericsson. in the team mate wars section. But DOTD, I'm not sure if I would vote for Ericsson yet. Grosjean is the obvious stand out IMO.

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Zoue wrote:
davidheath461 wrote:
j man wrote:
Zoue wrote:Hilarious. There's a vote for Hamilton already
There's always a few joke votes. Bottas has one too.
Not sure what’s funny. Not like it was Hamilton or Bottas fault that the cars failed or the strategy was abysmal.
or that he got overtaken? er, ok
I've seen far worse driver of the day votes for both Hamilton and Vettel on this forum. There are people here who just vote for their favourite driver no matter the circumstances, as you well know.

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Lojik wrote:
Zoue wrote:
davidheath461 wrote:
j man wrote:
Zoue wrote:Hilarious. There's a vote for Hamilton already
There's always a few joke votes. Bottas has one too.
Not sure what’s funny. Not like it was Hamilton or Bottas fault that the cars failed or the strategy was abysmal.
or that he got overtaken? er, ok
I've seen far worse driver of the day votes for both Hamilton and Vettel on this forum. There are people here who just vote for their favourite driver no matter the circumstances, as you well know.
true. Doesn't make it any more excusable, though

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Zoue wrote:
davidheath461 wrote:
j man wrote:
Zoue wrote:Hilarious. There's a vote for Hamilton already
There's always a few joke votes. Bottas has one too.
Not sure what’s funny. Not like it was Hamilton or Bottas fault that the cars failed or the strategy was abysmal.
or that he got overtaken? er, ok
Right, when his tyres were blistering. It’s not like he crashed into 2 different cars on the first lap.

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Lojik wrote:
Zoue wrote:
davidheath461 wrote:
j man wrote:
Zoue wrote:Hilarious. There's a vote for Hamilton already
There's always a few joke votes. Bottas has one too.
Not sure what’s funny. Not like it was Hamilton or Bottas fault that the cars failed or the strategy was abysmal.
or that he got overtaken? er, ok
I've seen far worse driver of the day votes for both Hamilton and Vettel on this forum. There are people here who just vote for their favourite driver no matter the circumstances, as you well know.

and others who wouldn't vote for a driver they dislike no matter how well they did.

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davidheath461 wrote:
Zoue wrote:
davidheath461 wrote:
j man wrote:
Zoue wrote:Hilarious. There's a vote for Hamilton already
There's always a few joke votes. Bottas has one too.
Not sure what’s funny. Not like it was Hamilton or Bottas fault that the cars failed or the strategy was abysmal.
or that he got overtaken? er, ok
Right, when his tyres were blistering. It’s not like he crashed into 2 different cars on the first lap.
he got overtaken long before his tyres were a problem. What does him not crashing into other cars have to do with it? :?

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Apparently McLaren ran out of front wings so Alonso was using one from last year that they didn't know how to set up with the car.

Still gets 8th from the pit lane. :lol:
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Mercedes-Benz wrote:
UnlikeUday wrote:Checo also deserves a mention. Struggled yesterday enough to be eliminated in Q1. Started 17th & finished in 7th. Fair play as well as Ocon let him get past to try catch Magnussen. When not possible, Checo in the end slowed down to let Ocon through to finish in 6th.
Wow, that is good team work. Same what Mercedes did in Hungary last year. 8)
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Lotus49 wrote:Apparently McLaren ran out of front wings so Alonso was using one from last year that they didn't know how to set up with the car.

Still gets 8th from the pit lane. :lol:
Well, last year's car was a beast! 8)

Grosjean, Alonso & Verstappen I think.

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j man wrote:
IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:Vettel, purely because we don't often see one-on-one moves between world champions in similar cars, specially one being put on Lewis Hamilton. And then ensuring he pushed him to the edge of the track. Damn, that was a lesson for Rosberg-2016.
Yes a superb passing move. Very brave to commit to the inside after Hamilton attempted to close the gap and then made sure Hamilton couldn't come back at him in the next straight. Perfectly executed.
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VET, champ-like drive.

VER, not dotd for me, because he hit and destabilized Raikkonen at the pass. Still, very solid race controlled everything and deserved the win

GRO got first points, and than with nothing less then with the 4th place.
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Zoue wrote: he got overtaken long before his tyres were a problem.
You're right it wasn't the tires. Hamilton got slowed through the penultimate corner when Ricciardo pitted and that got Vettel in close for the DRS. It was still a very nice move and later Vettel got held slightly at the same point putting Hamilton back into DRS but the Merc couldn't capitalise.

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