2018 Austrian Grand Prix Race Thread

Bacus · Post by **Bacus** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:35 pm

Great job Max!!

Perfect drive.

ALESI · Post by **ALESI** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:35 pm

IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:Not surprised. Ferrari are stupid.

At least Merc can't say 'we didn't do that last year...'

Zoue · Post by **Zoue** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:36 pm

Well done Max. Kimi threw that one away with some terrible driving at the beginning and left it too late to chase at the end. Missed opportunity for Ferrari there

IDrinkYourMilkshake · Post by **IDrinkYourMilkshake** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:36 pm

How did Leclerc get ahead of Ericsson?!

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:36 pm

What an exciting race throughout the way!

kleefton · Post by **kleefton** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:36 pm

Fair play to Ferrari for not swapping at the end. Rai drove well, so did Vettel and of course Max. Alonso bringing that turd of a car in 8th place. It was an entertaining race but it sucked if you are a fan of Hamilton. Bad weekend all around.

Post by **P-F1 Mod** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:37 pm

IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:Ferrari would be stupid not to swap.

I thought the same, I'm surprised now.

Prema · Post by **Prema** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:38 pm

IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:Not surprised. Ferrari are stupid.

So much disappointed not to see the TO? Got no use of all the ammo already prepared?

Gumption · Post by **Gumption** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:38 pm

Prema wrote:So no TO Ferrari... does this put the issue at rest once for ever?

That should have been put to rest in China last year when Ferrari didn't order Kimi to move over for a much faster Vettel.

PRFAN · Post by **PRFAN** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:39 pm

Some of you sit in front of your tv to see the races for the wrong reasons.

sandman1347 · Post by **sandman1347** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:39 pm

Big swing in the championship. Merc caught flat-footed again with the safety car and would have cost Hamilton the win but the mechanical issues seem to be to a level where they were never going to make it. Lots of engine failures for this new unit...

For Ferrari, this was a potential win but I think they'll be thrilled with the outcome considering where things stood after qualifying. This has definitely given them a massive boost in the championship.

Hats off to Max though. Truly a stunning drive. He's been perfect these last few races and a win is appropriate. I think that he is driving the best he ever has since Barcelona. Top job.

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:40 pm

Sorry to defend Ericsson yet again, but points are really importent to Sauber. Ericsson clearly was quicker that Leclerc because of fresher tyres. There were at leased 4 laps Ericsson was well under a second behind Leclerc. In this time, Ericsson could have got Alonso and Got Sauber an extra 2 points. Certainly think the team could have done better here given how little points they usually get.

funkymonkey · Post by **funkymonkey** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:40 pm

Who would have though that Ferrari after all that happened this and last weekend would be leading Championship. Little slice of luck going their way finally after lot of things going against them.
Even though they should have swapped in the end, its fair game by Ferrari. I dont think Vettel would complain about this. (I just hope this does not come to haunt them come last race)

Great drive by Max as well. Kept it clean.

Rockie · Post by **Rockie** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:40 pm

What a race?

Congrats to the bulls and well done Ferrari for now the detractors have to unload their armour till another day.

Toby. · Post by **Toby.** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:40 pm

I knew it was a bad idea to watch the F1 expecting something exciting after watching that amazing MotoGP race half an hour before.

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:41 pm

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Zoue · Post by **Zoue** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:43 pm

Pretty decent race in the end. Had me on the edge of my seat in the last third. Enjoyed it. Do think Ferrari left it too late to turn the wick up but some pretty strong driving. Weird how Kimi was so poor in the beginning and so strong later in the race. First time I remember Vettel didn't have him beat on pace

Prema · Post by **Prema** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:45 pm

Nice for the crowds at a home race to get to hear the national anthem.

j man · Post by **j man** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:47 pm

Much better race than I was expecting before the start! Very worrying for Mercedes if their failures are related to the engine upgrade. Also concerning for them how Hamilton's tyres blistered so much in the heat; it's pretty hot in the UK at the moment so this might spell further trouble for Silverstone.

Mercedes-Benz · Post by **Mercedes-Benz** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:49 pm

Exciting race but disaster for Mercedes. Kimi was unlucky. If he was not hit of MV in the first lap

He would have won

Still great comeback in the end and new lap record by him in the last lap. The tyres problem made it a great race. Haas did great job too and well deserved

PRFAN · Post by **PRFAN** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:49 pm

That was a good race from the start.

Some of you bashing drivers or teams should reevaluate.

Great win for Max, the old guy still has the speed, Vettel drove a good race. Shame fornthe Mercs but it happens.

Good Ferrari did not switched the drivers, that was well done.

gregs51 · Post by **gregs51** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:49 pm

sandman1347 wrote:Big swing in the championship. Merc caught flat-footed again with the safety car and would have cost Hamilton the win but the mechanical issues seem to be to a level where they were never going to make it. Lots of engine failures for this new unit...

For Ferrari, this was a potential win but I think they'll be thrilled with the outcome considering where things stood after qualifying. This has definitely given them a massive boost in the championship.

Hats off to Max though. Truly a stunning drive. He's been perfect these last few races and a win is appropriate. I think that he is driving the best he ever has since Barcelona. Top job.

Failure was probably caused by over stressing the engine trying to regain places, so the strategy error might well be to blame. Another poor strategy call from Mercedes. I think that’s 4 for the season now.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:50 pm

j man wrote:Much better race than I was expecting before the start! Very worrying for Mercedes if their failures are related to the engine upgrade. Also concerning for them how Hamilton's tyres blistered so much in the heat; it's pretty hot in the UK at the moment so this might spell further trouble for Silverstone.

On C4 they were saying tyres are made for circuits keeping their average temperature in mind. Wasn't today much hotter?

Prema · Post by **Prema** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:51 pm

This was a unique opportunity for Kimi to win a race since... well, a long time. Two Mercedes DNF, one RBT DNF, Vettel 3 grid places penalty.. Ah, Max.

wolfticket · Post by **wolfticket** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:51 pm

Alonso when he was 19th: "I will not do 71 laps here."

lucifers · Post by **lucifers** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:52 pm

I'm interested to know what Hamilton wanted to tell his team but not on radio. Did he know there was an issue from the beginning.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:52 pm

This has to be 1 of the best races of the season. Start to end there were overtakes, blistering tyres, additional pit stops, failure of Mercedes & loads of suspense.

Zoue · Post by **Zoue** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:55 pm

UnlikeUday wrote:
j man wrote:Much better race than I was expecting before the start! Very worrying for Mercedes if their failures are related to the engine upgrade. Also concerning for them how Hamilton's tyres blistered so much in the heat; it's pretty hot in the UK at the moment so this might spell further trouble for Silverstone.
On C4 they were saying tyres are made for circuits keeping their average temperature in mind. Wasn't today much hotter?

and at Silverstone they go back to the tyres that suit the Mercs more, so I don't think we'll see a repeat

TheGiantHogweed · Post by **TheGiantHogweed** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:55 pm

ugh, Bottas 6th in the championship must seriously hurt him. Despite Verstappen having good recent races, there is no way Verstappen or Raikonnen deserve to be ahead of Bottas. Probably not Ricciardo either if I'm honest.

Unlucky for both Mercedes drivers, but Bottas's luck is just getting unbelievable. None of 3 main things that have lost Bottas a load of points have been his fault at all. Hopefully won't change Mercedes's views on Bottas.

j man · Post by **j man** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:56 pm

UnlikeUday wrote:
j man wrote:Much better race than I was expecting before the start! Very worrying for Mercedes if their failures are related to the engine upgrade. Also concerning for them how Hamilton's tyres blistered so much in the heat; it's pretty hot in the UK at the moment so this might spell further trouble for Silverstone.
On C4 they were saying tyres are made for circuits keeping their average temperature in mind. Wasn't today much hotter?

Yes I think the temperatures caught them out. Still if they are using the softs again next week then they may have the same problem. Silverstone does have very few slow corners which should stress the rear tyres much less so they may be OK though.

IDrinkYourMilkshake · Post by **IDrinkYourMilkshake** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:56 pm

wolfticket wrote:Alonso when he was 19th: "I will not do 71 laps here."

And he was right. He did 70

j man · Post by **j man** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:57 pm

TheGiantHogweed wrote:ugh, Bottas 6th in the championship must seriously hurt him. Despite Verstappen having good recent races, there is no way Verstappen or Raikonnen deserve to be ahead of Bottas. Probably not Ricciardo either if I'm honest.

Unlucky for both Mercedes drivers, but Bottas's luck is just getting unbelievable. None of 3 main things that have lost Bottas a load of points have been his fault at all. Hopefully won't change Mercedes's views on Bottas.

Yes he's been desperately unfortunate. Overall I don't think Hamilton has driven any better than him this year.

bourbon19 · Post by **bourbon19** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 2:58 pm

Great job by Max on a clean drive to the lead and keeping it for the win; by Kimi on a brilliant drive to hold on to second, by Seb for great passing throughout and that move on Hamilton for the go ahead move. Pity for Dan on his birthday and the Mercs both out, but good driving while they were on track. Race was Brilliant fun.

davidheath461 · Post by **davidheath461** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:03 pm

I thought Vettel has number 1 status written into his Ferrari contract?

Zoue · Post by **Zoue** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:04 pm

Just seen a replay and what I didn't realise was that Max bumped Kimi which helped him make his overtake. Naughty. I'm surprised the stewards didn't do anything

davidheath461 · Post by **davidheath461** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:05 pm

lucifers wrote:I'm interested to know what Hamilton wanted to tell his team but not on radio. Did he know there was an issue from the beginning.

Guessing he wanted to go on an expletive laden rant

RaggedMan · Post by **RaggedMan** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:07 pm

Zoue wrote:Just seen a replay and what I didn't realise was that Max bumped Kimi which helped him make his overtake. Naughty. I'm surprised the stewards didn't do anything

The stewards looked at it and decided no action required.

PRFAN · Post by **PRFAN** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:07 pm

Zoue wrote:Just seen a replay and what I didn't realise was that Max bumped Kimi which helped him make his overtake. Naughty. I'm surprised the stewards didn't do anything

I think they did evaluated the contact, no further action they said. Just racing

davidheath461 · Post by **davidheath461** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:09 pm

Zoue wrote:Just seen a replay and what I didn't realise was that Max bumped Kimi which helped him make his overtake. Naughty. I'm surprised the stewards didn't do anything

Kimi also forced Max off the track between 2 and 3

Lojik · Post by **Lojik** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:11 pm

Toby. wrote:I knew it was a bad idea to watch the F1 expecting something exciting after watching that amazing MotoGP race half an hour before.

You really should stop watching Formula 1 if you found that race boring