2018 Canadian Grand Prix Racing Thread
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I'm sorry but F1 is s!!t these days. I think you have to be 1.5 seconds faster to actually have a chance to overtake.
I'm watching F1 for some 25 years, it seems it's worse than ever.
I've always wondered why supposedly some very bright people who run this sport are able to come up with such defectuos regulations
I'm watching F1 for some 25 years, it seems it's worse than ever.
I've always wondered why supposedly some very bright people who run this sport are able to come up with such defectuos regulations
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Why retire when someone's still willing to pay you big bucks just to cruise around at your own leisure?F1Tyrant wrote:Kimi should have retired after 2014.FrusEldar wrote:Kimi has been underwhelming average ever since he rejoined Ferrari. Today is not an exception.
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To appease the manufacturer teams that's why.Bacus wrote:I'm sorry but F1 is s!!t these days. I think you have to be 1.5 seconds faster to actually have a chance to overtake.
I'm watching F1 for some 25 years, it seems it's worse than ever.
I've always wondered why supposedly some very bright people who run this sport are able to come up with such defectuos regulations
Only took 7 yrs, 5 mths & 21 days.
Cooper, Arrows, Brabham, Ligier, Lotus, Tyrrell, Minardi, McLaren, Sauber, Williams,
Remember the garagista's. The heart & soul of F1. They raced to race.
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IMO this is regular stuff. When all things are settled most of the time Verstappen has the edge on Ricciardo. And that has been from their first races together.kleefton wrote:Max has dropped Ricciardo. Very strong weekend for him.
Ricciardo is just able to keep his nose clean at hectic races.
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To be fair, Mercedes are the ones pushing the aero cull next season.Jezza13 wrote:To appease the manufacturer teams that's why.

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Yeah and i'm sure their motives are totally utilitarian.F1Tyrant wrote:To be fair, Mercedes are the ones pushing the aero cull next season.Jezza13 wrote:To appease the manufacturer teams that's why.
Only took 7 yrs, 5 mths & 21 days.
Cooper, Arrows, Brabham, Ligier, Lotus, Tyrrell, Minardi, McLaren, Sauber, Williams,
Remember the garagista's. The heart & soul of F1. They raced to race.
2017 WCC CPTTC - Jalopy Racing (Herb & Me)
Cooper, Arrows, Brabham, Ligier, Lotus, Tyrrell, Minardi, McLaren, Sauber, Williams,
Remember the garagista's. The heart & soul of F1. They raced to race.
2017 WCC CPTTC - Jalopy Racing (Herb & Me)
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Even the stewards want it finished early!
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Amateur hour with the chequered flag
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Most exciting part of the race.pokerman wrote:Amateur hour with the chequered flag
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TedStriker wrote:Even the stewards want it finished early!

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Man, I’ve been looking forward to this race all day, and it absolutely sucked!!!!
That was worse than Monaco, which is an impressive achievement!!!
That was worse than Monaco, which is an impressive achievement!!!
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I know it's all business, but they could win even more if they would try to satisfy the fans.Jezza13 wrote:To appease the manufacturer teams that's why.Bacus wrote:I'm sorry but F1 is s!!t these days. I think you have to be 1.5 seconds faster to actually have a chance to overtake.
I'm watching F1 for some 25 years, it seems it's worse than ever.
I've always wondered why supposedly some very bright people who run this sport are able to come up with such defectuos regulations
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I can't remember the last time Brundle and Crofty were so bad at commentating in the race. I hope Sky get a better line up next year!! They both made countless mistakes.
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Drab race. Vettel excellent. Verstappen very good all weekend. Hamilton meh. Hopefully France is better than this 

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The amount of times they seemed convinced (Ted too) that Raikkonen was going to come out ahead of Hamilton despite not being far enough aheadTheGiantHogweed wrote:I can't remember the last time Brundle and Crofty were so bad at commentating in the race. I hope Sky get a better line up next year!! They both made countless mistakes.

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Chequered flag debacle, brilliant from Crofty:
"You had one job........"

"You had one job........"


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One of the more genuinely boring races this season, especially after qualy promised so much. As I said earlier, Mercedes had better hope this delayed engine has the beans; right now Vettel looks half a street ahead.
In the wider picture, getting sick to death of all the front runners driving well within themselves to conserve tyres for the ultimate fear of having to make another stop.
In the wider picture, getting sick to death of all the front runners driving well within themselves to conserve tyres for the ultimate fear of having to make another stop.
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TedStriker wrote:Even the stewards want it finished early!
can we blame them
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Great race for Ferrari and Vettel. But it was not a great racing at fast end of the grid.
Some good racing in mid field (though not a lot of overtaking) and Charles Leclerc deserves all the praise that he gets for that drive. Great result for Sauber.
Not great race, still miles better than Monaco.
Some good racing in mid field (though not a lot of overtaking) and Charles Leclerc deserves all the praise that he gets for that drive. Great result for Sauber.
Not great race, still miles better than Monaco.
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Do DRS work when they reach the engine rev limit so fast?
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This is historically a very exciting race.
What a snoozefest.
What a snoozefest.
I'd rather die than be overtaken.
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No idea how Crofty got the job. He doesnt offer anything other than talking drivelTheGiantHogweed wrote:I can't remember the last time Brundle and Crofty were so bad at commentating in the race. I hope Sky get a better line up next year!! They both made countless mistakes.
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Dull as dishwater, straight onto Antiques Roadshow for some excitement.
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Merc were closed in qualifying and possibly ahead had they had the new engine rather one that had done six races. The lack of race pace might be a concern though.Flash2k11 wrote:One of the more genuinely boring races this season, especially after qualy promised so much. As I said earlier, Mercedes had better hope this delayed engine has the beans; right now Vettel looks half a street ahead.
In the wider picture, getting sick to death of all the front runners driving well within themselves to conserve tyres for the ultimate fear of having to make another stop.
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Maybe Ferrari left it too long?JN23 wrote:The amount of times they seemed convinced (Ted too) that Raikkonen was going to come out ahead of Hamilton despite not being far enough aheadTheGiantHogweed wrote:I can't remember the last time Brundle and Crofty were so bad at commentating in the race. I hope Sky get a better line up next year!! They both made countless mistakes.
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2016: 24th place
2017: 4th place
2018: 12th place
Wins: Spain 2016, Canada 2017, Malaysia 2017
Podiums: 2nd Germany 2016, 3rd Mexico 2016, 3rd China 2018, 3rd Japan 2018, 2nd Mexico 2018
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And to those who want to do away with pit stops.... I give you Canada 2018.
Imagine this race, supposedly one of the best overtaking circuits on the calendar, 3 DRS zones, with no pit stops.
Imagine this race, supposedly one of the best overtaking circuits on the calendar, 3 DRS zones, with no pit stops.
Only took 7 yrs, 5 mths & 21 days.
Cooper, Arrows, Brabham, Ligier, Lotus, Tyrrell, Minardi, McLaren, Sauber, Williams,
Remember the garagista's. The heart & soul of F1. They raced to race.
2017 WCC CPTTC - Jalopy Racing (Herb & Me)
Cooper, Arrows, Brabham, Ligier, Lotus, Tyrrell, Minardi, McLaren, Sauber, Williams,
Remember the garagista's. The heart & soul of F1. They raced to race.
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Agreed, it’s his constant forced chuckling that does my head in.Zazu wrote:No idea how Crofty got the job. He doesnt offer anything other than talking drivelTheGiantHogweed wrote:I can't remember the last time Brundle and Crofty were so bad at commentating in the race. I hope Sky get a better line up next year!! They both made countless mistakes.
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Awful race, really obvious result from first corner, pit crews now deciding track positions, I'm beginning to wonder if it is worth the money!
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I thought they were saying when he was roughly 16s ahead, isn't it 18/19s for a pit stop?F1_Ernie wrote:Maybe Ferrari left it too long?JN23 wrote:The amount of times they seemed convinced (Ted too) that Raikkonen was going to come out ahead of Hamilton despite not being far enough aheadTheGiantHogweed wrote:I can't remember the last time Brundle and Crofty were so bad at commentating in the race. I hope Sky get a better line up next year!! They both made countless mistakes.
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What a boring race. I don't care about lap records, these cars suck. Unless you are on a different tire, there won't be much passing between the top three teams on track.
This has been a strange year for Hamilton. This makes 2 race weekends this year (China being the other one) where he has just been nowhere. And these are two tracks where he has won a total of 11 races in his career! Not sure what to make of his performance this season but it almost seems like he has lost his edge somewhat. Perhaps it's just a temporary thing but I see Hamilton as being well below his top form this year.
For Vettel, this was the type of race that China and Baku shoud have been and he and Ferrari could easily be a lot further ahead right now. Flawless weekend from him and he is the more appropriate points leader all things considered.
Ferrari should also be leading in the WCC but they are a one car team unfortunately. At this stage, Kimi being on the team is a joke. Before pitting, he was 20 seconds behind Vettel on the same tires after the first stint. That's just too much of a deficit. Honestly, Ferrari should be looking to replace him urgently. He's too slow.
This has been a strange year for Hamilton. This makes 2 race weekends this year (China being the other one) where he has just been nowhere. And these are two tracks where he has won a total of 11 races in his career! Not sure what to make of his performance this season but it almost seems like he has lost his edge somewhat. Perhaps it's just a temporary thing but I see Hamilton as being well below his top form this year.
For Vettel, this was the type of race that China and Baku shoud have been and he and Ferrari could easily be a lot further ahead right now. Flawless weekend from him and he is the more appropriate points leader all things considered.
Ferrari should also be leading in the WCC but they are a one car team unfortunately. At this stage, Kimi being on the team is a joke. Before pitting, he was 20 seconds behind Vettel on the same tires after the first stint. That's just too much of a deficit. Honestly, Ferrari should be looking to replace him urgently. He's too slow.
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Flash2k11 wrote:One of the more genuinely boring races this season, especially after qualy promised so much. As I said earlier, Mercedes had better hope this delayed engine has the beans; right now Vettel looks half a street ahead.
In the wider picture, getting sick to death of all the front runners driving well within themselves to conserve tyres for the ultimate fear of having to make another stop.
was hoping Mercedes or redbull would have thrown caution to the wind and make a second stop
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Bernie's sprinkler system doesnt seem like such a bad idea anymore
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I think 3 DRS zones proved counter productive this year. One way or other, the DRS benefit was neutralised for car behind because the car in front was getting DRS from the cars ahead as well as back-markers later in the race.
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+1Oasis wrote:Bernie's sprinkler system doesnt seem like such a bad idea anymore
We need more wet races, where driver skills and mechanical grips are more important than aerodynamics and tyre conservation. If wet races have to be artificially produced, so be it.
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Croft sucks big time. The guy loves to hear himself talk. They need an audio option w/o commentary just track audiojamesaberdeen73 wrote:Agreed, it’s his constant forced chuckling that does my head in.Zazu wrote:No idea how Crofty got the job. He doesnt offer anything other than talking drivelTheGiantHogweed wrote:I can't remember the last time Brundle and Crofty were so bad at commentating in the race. I hope Sky get a better line up next year!! They both made countless mistakes.
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F1 Oracle 2017: 2nd (6 wins), 2016:5th (2wins)
Awards: Sergio perez trophy & Podium specialist
PF1 pick 3 2015: constructors 2nd, singles 5th
Autosport Gp 2016/17 - 5th
F1 Oracle 2017: 2nd (6 wins), 2016:5th (2wins)
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Thought the same when someone posted the race needed a safety carblhsing wrote:+1Oasis wrote:Bernie's sprinkler system doesnt seem like such a bad idea anymore
We need more wet races, where driver skills and mechanical grips are more important than aerodynamics and tyre conservation. If wet races have to be artificially produced, so be it.
PF1 pick 10 2016: 7th (1 win, 4 podiums), 2017: 17th (3 podiums)
Awards: Sergio perez trophy & Podium specialist
PF1 pick 3 2015: constructors 2nd, singles 5th
Autosport Gp 2016/17 - 5th
F1 Oracle 2017: 2nd (6 wins), 2016:5th (2wins)
Awards: Sergio perez trophy & Podium specialist
PF1 pick 3 2015: constructors 2nd, singles 5th
Autosport Gp 2016/17 - 5th
F1 Oracle 2017: 2nd (6 wins), 2016:5th (2wins)
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Kimi was wide open for this strategy, and if Danny Ric can go fastest of all on the last lap having been utterly mediocre pacewise prior, someone on fresh rubber with nothing to lose would surely have gone seriously quicker. Feels like all the top 3 teams are locked into safety first thinking because the midfield isn't close enough to push them on.lucifers wrote:Flash2k11 wrote:One of the more genuinely boring races this season, especially after qualy promised so much. As I said earlier, Mercedes had better hope this delayed engine has the beans; right now Vettel looks half a street ahead.
In the wider picture, getting sick to death of all the front runners driving well within themselves to conserve tyres for the ultimate fear of having to make another stop.
was hoping Mercedes or redbull would have thrown caution to the wind and make a second stop
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Mercedes now in real danger of becoming third best car. Unless they find something soon Red Bull will have the upper hand at the more aero tracks. The Ferrari is untouchable now in Vettels hands. There always seems to be something wrong with the Merc setup - tyres, cooling, straight line speed, oversteer, understeer. There is something inherently divaish in the chassis that has been masked by engine superiority.