2018 Monaco Grand Prix Race Thread

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Laz_T800 wrote:I see Vettel winning this. I have a feeling that Ricciardo and Vettel will open up a big gap at the front and when Danny pits he'll get held up by Kimi just enough for Vettel to jump him.
Quite possible, as RBR don't have their second car in play to assist Dan in the same way. Not sure they will open up a big gap though. Also, I can't see why RBR can't just pit the lap after, or even a few laps after Ferrari, as they've been very good on tyre wear this year, particularly in Ricciardo's hands.

Also, last time out at Monaco the overcut worked, so I guess it's in play this time too...important to note that the harder tyres are going to take a few laps to get up to speed this time around (similar to Baku)

I still think there's a chance a SC could decide this race.
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mikeyg123 wrote:
Caserole of Nonsense wrote:
Zoue wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Caserole of Nonsense wrote:finally we have tyres that might make the strategy side of it interesting. rather then 1 stop and everybody doing pretty much the same. if the hypers do go off quickly (i think they are gonna try and get 15-20 laps out of them though) you may get some going to supers for 1 stop. some to ultras but can the ultras do one stop. undercut should be powerful so there could be big winners and big losers. if only you could overtake it would be great. i say hypers mandatory at every race!
It's not good. High deg at Monte Carlo just means everyone driving to a delta miles off the pace. We had high deg in 2012 and 2013 and the race was horrendous.
yes I agree. You want tyres drivers can push on, not have the result determined by who drives on eggshells the best
well i disagree. this is typical of f1. canada 2010 was epic and everybody wanted high deg cos it created a great race. which is why pirelli made the tyres they did in 2012. then they have had enough of that and want harder tyres that they can push on for longer periods so we get boring one stops. how long before high deg is being called for again. in general i would much rather have high deg creating bigger offsets between drivers which inevitably leads to more action. at monaco i cant remember what happened in 2012 and 13 but i know for sure it wasnt the tyres fault the races were boring, driving to a delta or not. monaco is a boring race. only thing that makes it interesting are incidents and pitstops.

also regarding the tyres its exactly the same with the downforce of these cars. lets have these super fast cars with loads of downforce. oh wait cant run in dirty air. next year feels very much like 2009. why do they not learn.
It's horses for courses. Monaco with high deg is dull because it has to be a one stop as track position is so vital. That means with high deg you get everyone cruising around well off the pace for lap after lap after lap eeking out tyre life. If you have very low deg everyone has to push like crazy causing incidents and excitement. The race in 2012 was a particularly odd spectacle.
obviously no one knows exactly how it will play out but p11 down should have a big tyre advantage on paper. the leaders are probably gonna struggle to gap them and will be pitting and coming out with the midfielders. might make it more interesting then the leaders scampering away until they have a window. we'll see anyway.
unfortunately i still dont think the drivers can push like crazy in any race due to fuel, reliablity. they more often then not drive to a laptime as such.

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Caserole of Nonsense wrote: obviously no one knows exactly how it will play out but p11 down should have a big tyre advantage on paper. the leaders are probably gonna struggle to gap them and will be pitting and coming out with the midfielders. might make it more interesting then the leaders scampering away until they have a window. we'll see anyway.
unfortunately i still dont think the drivers can push like crazy in any race due to fuel, reliablity. they more often then not drive to a laptime as such.
Fuel wouldn't be an issue. Monaco has a very low fuel penalty and there would be safety cars. What we will have is everyone trying to keep tyres in until a safety car. If the midfield is close then all that will really mean is the undercut won't work so the leaders won't even have that incentive to pit.

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mikeyg123 wrote:
Caserole of Nonsense wrote: obviously no one knows exactly how it will play out but p11 down should have a big tyre advantage on paper. the leaders are probably gonna struggle to gap them and will be pitting and coming out with the midfielders. might make it more interesting then the leaders scampering away until they have a window. we'll see anyway.
unfortunately i still dont think the drivers can push like crazy in any race due to fuel, reliablity. they more often then not drive to a laptime as such.
Fuel wouldn't be an issue. Monaco has a very low fuel penalty and there would be safety cars. What we will have is everyone trying to keep tyres in until a safety car. If the midfield is close then all that will really mean is the undercut won't work so the leaders won't even have that incentive to pit.
it will if the midfield are lapping quicker at that stage.

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Caserole of Nonsense wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Caserole of Nonsense wrote: obviously no one knows exactly how it will play out but p11 down should have a big tyre advantage on paper. the leaders are probably gonna struggle to gap them and will be pitting and coming out with the midfielders. might make it more interesting then the leaders scampering away until they have a window. we'll see anyway.
unfortunately i still dont think the drivers can push like crazy in any race due to fuel, reliablity. they more often then not drive to a laptime as such.
Fuel wouldn't be an issue. Monaco has a very low fuel penalty and there would be safety cars. What we will have is everyone trying to keep tyres in until a safety car. If the midfield is close then all that will really mean is the undercut won't work so the leaders won't even have that incentive to pit.
it will if the midfield are lapping quicker at that stage.
Well they won't because to be the midfield they will have to have people in front of them on the slower more worn tyres :lol: TBH they will probably be a safety car around lap 20 and everyone will just pit then.

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Rain?

Not enough to worry about I expect.
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mikeyg123 wrote:
Caserole of Nonsense wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Caserole of Nonsense wrote: obviously no one knows exactly how it will play out but p11 down should have a big tyre advantage on paper. the leaders are probably gonna struggle to gap them and will be pitting and coming out with the midfielders. might make it more interesting then the leaders scampering away until they have a window. we'll see anyway.
unfortunately i still dont think the drivers can push like crazy in any race due to fuel, reliablity. they more often then not drive to a laptime as such.
Fuel wouldn't be an issue. Monaco has a very low fuel penalty and there would be safety cars. What we will have is everyone trying to keep tyres in until a safety car. If the midfield is close then all that will really mean is the undercut won't work so the leaders won't even have that incentive to pit.
it will if the midfield are lapping quicker at that stage.
Well they won't because to be the midfield they will have to have people in front of them on the slower more worn tyres :lol: TBH they will probably be a safety car around lap 20 and everyone will just pit then.
top cars will have a pace advantage at the start and the field will stretch but then as the tyres go off the ultra/supersoft guys you would expect to start lapping quicker in which case the undercut could be used as the guy who pitted will come out and then close the gap to the leaders. thats what i meant by that.

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It's drizzling:
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purchville wrote:
Zoue wrote:Dan not causing contact invariably relies on the other guy
Invariably? You seem so sure of that, citing just 2 occasions where he might have overdone it. Twice in how many races? A rubbish statement IMO. There's a whole textbook of Ricciardo overtakes that haven't relied on "the other guy".

I could just as easily say the Vettel not causing contact invariably relies on him not being fighting on track with any other cars (e.g. Turkey - Webber, Baku - Hamilton, Spa - Button...)...but that would be a comparable yet ludicrous statement :thumbdown:
No need to get all defensive. I happen to think that Ricciardo’s moves, while undeniably spectacular, rely too much on the other driver to not end in tragedy, that’s all.

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horner looks nervous

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What's with these ridiculous outfits? :lol: The guys with the red thing on their head.

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Martin brundle during grid walk "who's that grabbing my bottom?. Where is tom brady?" :lol:
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lucifers wrote:horner looks nervous
I would be too if i was managing versteppen starting 20th with his current form
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There was FAR too many people on that grid. dangerous as hell. if there was a situation, then people would be crushed and killed. they need to restrict things next year
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I wish they would lose the stupid dramatic music.

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Here we go!

Treated myself to a new TV after the last one died yesterday...you get a lot for your money these days. I'm gonna enjoy this! :)

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Stroll has to be nervous. He has Magnussen, Grosjean & Verstappen directly behind him at the start!
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"Cry 'Havoc!', and let slip the dogs of war".
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Mayhem wrote:
lucifers wrote:horner looks nervous
I would be too if i was managing versteppen starting 20th with his current form
Guaranteed action at least.

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neek wrote:Here we go!

Treated myself to a new TV after the last one died yesterday...you get a lot for your money these days. I'm gonna enjoy this! :)

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Sirotkin is screwed.... they didn't have a wheel on before the 3 minute signal
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I'm betting on Max causing a crash within the first few laps.

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Wow, no incidents.

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That was a fast lights out
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Kimi is able to hang with Lewis. The Ferrari is obviously faster here.

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No events at the start so time for a rain dance.

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Sirotkin penalty.

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Ricciardo is pulling away a bit. Four tenths faster last lap. Not going good for Williams.

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Ocon wrote:Kimi is able to hang with Lewis. The Ferrari is obviously faster here.
Yeah constantly under a second.
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Why is Lewis going in now? What could be the plan? Good thing he got past Ocon there. This might turn out good.
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not a good day for the Williams team is it?
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Ocon put up a massive fight :lol:
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:lol: :lol:

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Did Ocon let Lewis go by there? Good lad. :)

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Ocon wrote:Did Ocon let Lewis go by there? Good lad. :)
You had to ask!?

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Why has Leclerc dropped down?

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Tyres and back-markers starting to make this interesting

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Lotus49 wrote:
Ocon wrote:Did Ocon let Lewis go by there? Good lad. :)
You had to ask!?

:lol:
Lewis is that good, you never know what he is capable of. :)

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