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Hamilton benefitted with the VSC in Spain in 2017. It has worked against him now.

Incredible stroke of luck for Vettel, race is definitely on now.... Hamilton will be brewing in that car, expecting fireworks.

With the pace Lewis has had and Vettel has not... how have they gift wrapped the win to Seb?

Vettel on fresher tires so it should be a cake walk.

Party mode ftw?

What a farce, why are they allowed to pit under VSC?

I only caught the end of the replay - did Max overtake Fernando under the yellows or he was in front at the pit exit?

Why are Hamilton's engineer baffled by this? It's fairly simple.

Actually why do the commentators not seem to understand either. It's pretty simple. You lose less time for a pitstop because the guys you are racing at not on full racing speed.

mikeyg123 wrote:Oh come on! Why the safety car.

In other news - The pitlane should be closed under VSC. God knows why they didn't make that change already.

In other, other news - Surely this is both Magnussen and Grosjean are Knackered for Bahrain as well?

Its a hole in the regs that I mentioned the other day I'll try and find it.

Ferrari finds a way - tell haaSS TO MESS UP WILL WORK EVERY RACE
Damn to much whiskey I'm crash in watch the rest in the mourning.
This sucks but got a good buzz on at leaST.
Great show F1????????

Okay, so Max let Alonso go but surely overtaking under (V)SC should be a penalty, not just a position swap?

pokerman wrote:

mikeyg123 wrote:Oh come on! Why the safety car.

In other news - The pitlane should be closed under VSC. God knows why they didn't make that change already.

In other, other news - Surely this is both Magnussen and Grosjean are Knackered for Bahrain as well?

Its a hole in the regs that I mentioned the other day I'll try and find it.

pokerman wrote:Yep and that's why the VSC was such a good step forward however with that they should be stopping cars from pitting and gaining an advantage, the purer the race the better, it's supposed to be a 50/70 lap race.

Blake wrote:With the pace Lewis has had and Vettel has not... how have they gift wrapped the win to Seb?

You're kidding right? Seb was being left for dead by both Hamilton and his teammate. Now he has track position and fresher tires (fresh enough to make it to the end easily) on a track where overtaking is extremely difficult. This was an early birthday gift.

pokerman wrote:

mikeyg123 wrote:Oh come on! Why the safety car.

In other news - The pitlane should be closed under VSC. God knows why they didn't make that change already.

In other, other news - Surely this is both Magnussen and Grosjean are Knackered for Bahrain as well?

Its a hole in the regs that I mentioned the other day I'll try and find it.

Why dont we just agree that you said it and save you the effort?

Blake wrote:With the pace Lewis has had and Vettel has not... how have they gift wrapped the win to Seb?

i'm not sure how seb ended up ahead, but once they go green, i expect lewis has the car to smoke vettel. will be shocked if he doesn't

VDV23 wrote:Okay, so Max let Alonso go but surely overtaking under (V)SC should be a penalty, not just a position swap?

Why? What would that achieve for anyone?

sandman1347 wrote:

Blake wrote:With the pace Lewis has had and Vettel has not... how have they gift wrapped the win to Seb?

You're kidding right? Seb was being left for dead by both Hamilton and his teammate. Now he has track position and fresher tires (fresh enough to make it to the end easily) on a track where overtaking is extremely difficult. This was an early birthday gift.

No.. I am not kidding. vettel has not had the pace of Lewis nor Kimi. I don't it as a sure thing for Seb at all. Hope it is though!

Ferraris party mode is haas.

Farcical rules make for a farcical race.

So good to see Alonso in the mix

Blake wrote:

sandman1347 wrote:

Blake wrote:With the pace Lewis has had and Vettel has not... how have they gift wrapped the win to Seb?

You're kidding right? Seb was being left for dead by both Hamilton and his teammate. Now he has track position and fresher tires (fresh enough to make it to the end easily) on a track where overtaking is extremely difficult. This was an early birthday gift.

No.. I am not kidding. vettel has not had the pace of Lewis nor Kimi. I don't it as a sure thing for Seb at all. Hope it is though!

To make the pass will be almost impossible

mikeyg123 wrote:

VDV23 wrote:Okay, so Max let Alonso go but surely overtaking under (V)SC should be a penalty, not just a position swap?

Why? What would that achieve for anyone?

It just seems logical to me, that's all.

pokerman wrote:Farcical rules make for a farcical race.

Will you be saying that same thing if Lewis wins?

Blake wrote:

pokerman wrote:Farcical rules make for a farcical race.

Will you be saying that same thing if Lewis wins?

Have a look at the Spain 2017 thread and check.

Blake wrote:

pokerman wrote:Farcical rules make for a farcical race.

Will you be saying that same thing if Lewis wins?

Did you not see the post I made before the race about pitting under the VSC so I'm consistent, I care about the integrity of the race whereas you just car about Ferrari winning.

mikeyg123 wrote:

Blake wrote:

pokerman wrote:Farcical rules make for a farcical race.

Will you be saying that same thing if Lewis wins?

Have a look at the Spain 2017 thread and check.

I did it for you Blake -

http://forum.planet-f1.com/viewtopic.ph ... &start=400

And he did.

mikeyg123 wrote:

Blake wrote:

pokerman wrote:Farcical rules make for a farcical race.

Will you be saying that same thing if Lewis wins?

Have a look at the Spain 2017 thread and check.

What did I say?

G'day boys...havent posted for a while...this is turning into an interesting race!!!!

This is some suspicious stuff. Both Haas drivers have a wheel that isn't properly attached back to back; stopping on track...There's a virtual SC that lasts just long enough for Vettel to jump into the lead and then switches to a normal safety car (if it were just a normal safety car from the beginning, Vettel wouldn't have taken the lead). Most perfect storm I've seen since Singapore 2008...

Don't mind me

pokerman wrote:

mikeyg123 wrote:

Blake wrote:

pokerman wrote:Farcical rules make for a farcical race.

Will you be saying that same thing if Lewis wins?

Have a look at the Spain 2017 thread and check.

What did I say?

I didn't know when I wrote the post. I just thought it would be interesting. I found out though... See above.

sandman1347 wrote:This is some suspicious stuff. Both Haas drivers have a wheel that isn't properly attached back to back; stopping on track...There's a virtual that lasts just long enough for Vettel to jump into the lead and then switches to a normal safety car (if it were just a normal safety car from the beginning, Vettel wouldn't have taken the lead. Most perfect storm I've seen since Singapore 2008...

Don't mind me

Whoops....the movie was actually called...Conspiracy Theory.

sandman1347 wrote:This is some suspicious stuff. Both Haas drivers have a wheel that isn't properly attached back to back; stopping on track...There's a virtual that lasts just long enough for Vettel to jump into the lead and then switches to a normal safety car (if it were just a normal safety car from the beginning, Vettel wouldn't have taken the lead. Most perfect storm I've seen since Singapore 2008...

Don't mind me

Why would Haas ruin two races for both their drivers. If they wanted to bring out a VSC they would just stop the car.

mikeyg123 wrote:

mikeyg123 wrote:

Blake wrote:

pokerman wrote:Farcical rules make for a farcical race.

Will you be saying that same thing if Lewis wins?

Have a look at the Spain 2017 thread and check.

I did it for you Blake -

http://forum.planet-f1.com/viewtopic.ph ... &start=400

And he did.

Cheers

C'mon DAN!!!!!

mikeyg123 wrote:

pokerman wrote:

mikeyg123 wrote:

Blake wrote:

pokerman wrote:Farcical rules make for a farcical race.

Will you be saying that same thing if Lewis wins?

Have a look at the Spain 2017 thread and check.

What did I say?

I didn't know when I wrote the post. I just thought it would be interesting. I found out though... See above.

Cheers

They should get Rosberg in the booth. Be great to get his pov throughout the race.

In other news Alonso holding 5th!.....YEEWWWW!

sandman1347 wrote:This is some suspicious stuff. Both Haas drivers have a wheel that isn't properly attached back to back; stopping on track...There's a virtual SC that lasts just long enough for Vettel to jump into the lead and then switches to a normal safety car (if it were just a normal safety car from the beginning, Vettel wouldn't have taken the lead). Most perfect storm I've seen since Singapore 2008...

Don't mind me

Ferrari party mode.

Also impressed with Leclerc beating Stroll and Hartley and staying relatively close to the Force India's.