2018/19 Formula e car revealed.
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:51 pm
Me too!RaggedMan wrote:Don't care what anybody else says. I like it.
IMO, nope.Lt. Drebin wrote:Is it still considered an open wheel series?
Who cares? Formula E is a series with no historical baggage. It isn't tied to what people thought was the quickest way to make a car 60 years ago.Lt. Drebin wrote:Is it still considered an open wheel series?
It's just not well suited to the circuits they race on, or the way they officiate the race. I love formula E but how many times have we seen the stewards force a driver into the pits to ruin his race because a little body work was hanging off? Now we seem to have just an excess of body work everywhere. I actually think the car would look ok without the huge front wheel coverings. For what it needs to do an FE needs to be sharp and light. This just looks over indulgent and poor fit for the purpose.Exediron wrote:Who cares? Formula E is a series with no historical baggage. It isn't tied to what people thought was the quickest way to make a car 60 years ago.Lt. Drebin wrote:Is it still considered an open wheel series?
GingerFurball wrote:Looks better than the current F1 cars.
But if you think about the what the goals are of FE then you realize that efficiency is more of a driver than speed and fully exposed rotating masses of rubber are anathema to that.mikeyg123 wrote:I actually think the car would look ok without the huge front wheel coverings. For what it needs to do an FE needs to be sharp and light. This just looks over indulgent and poor fit for the purpose.Exediron wrote:Who cares? Formula E is a series with no historical baggage. It isn't tied to what people thought was the quickest way to make a car 60 years ago.Lt. Drebin wrote:Is it still considered an open wheel series?
If you come come at the problem afresh I think covered wheels are beneficial for efficiency and speed. I think generally the extra weight of the covering is more than compensated for by the aerodynamic benefits.RaggedMan wrote:But if you think about the what the goals are of FE then you realize that efficiency is more of a driver than speed and fully exposed rotating masses of rubber are anathema to that.mikeyg123 wrote:I actually think the car would look ok without the huge front wheel coverings. For what it needs to do an FE needs to be sharp and light. This just looks over indulgent and poor fit for the purpose.Exediron wrote:Who cares? Formula E is a series with no historical baggage. It isn't tied to what people thought was the quickest way to make a car 60 years ago.Lt. Drebin wrote:Is it still considered an open wheel series?
You know that's actually one area I would criticise FE. Some of the liveries are great but not many IMO. Despite being a fan that watches every race, I still sometimes confuse certain teamsUnlikeUday wrote:The car looks sleek. FE overall has better liveries than F1 as well.
mcdo wrote:You know that's actually one area I would criticise FE. Some of the liveries are great but not many IMO. Despite being a fan that watches every race, I still sometimes confuse certain teamsUnlikeUday wrote:The car looks sleek. FE overall has better liveries than F1 as well.
The tight street circuits provide a perception (illusion) of speed, as the cars pass track-side objects (and other cars) close aboard. F1 at Monaco gives the same impression (compared with other F1 venues).Yellowbin74 wrote:I like the look of the car, and have the races on Sky+ and watch them when I have the time.
I feel the series is being held back by the tracks - I'd love to see them at Silverstone, or maybe in Hungary. Any track where it isn't a street circuit is what I really want..
Just my opinion..
I'm so bored of hearing about how slow FE is.MB-BOB wrote:The tight street circuits provide a perception (illusion) of speed, as the cars pass track-side objects (and other cars) close aboard. F1 at Monaco gives the same impression (compared with other F1 venues).Yellowbin74 wrote:I like the look of the car, and have the races on Sky+ and watch them when I have the time.
I feel the series is being held back by the tracks - I'd love to see them at Silverstone, or maybe in Hungary. Any track where it isn't a street circuit is what I really want..
Just my opinion..
Put these cars on the wide open venues -- like Silverstone or Monza -- and we will see how slow these cars actually are.
Not to mention that watching a Formula E car from a distance, winding its way through the Maggotts & Becketts esses at Silverstone, you will likely not hear anything at all.
Just my opinion...
I wasn't knocking on the slow speed of the cars. I pointed out that as a visual/audible form of entertainment, they race on street circuits because the tight tracks emphasize movement and the illusion of speed.Banana Man wrote:
I'm so bored of hearing about how slow FE is.
The current gen. cars are 190kW and will do about 145mph, which is on par with quite a few racing series. Next season's cars will be 250kW and well within the bracket of 155mph for your average touring car, to 185mph for a GP3 car.
Right now they are better suited to street circuits but they definitely seem to be outgrowing some of them. I think a next gen. FE car would be decent enough around Monaco, Singapore, Baku, Montreal or Budapest.
Apologies if I misunderstood, though this was another of those highly original 'milk float' posts I keep reading.MB-BOB wrote:I wasn't knocking on the slow speed of the cars. I pointed out that as a visual/audible form of entertainment, they race on street circuits because the tight tracks emphasize movement and the illusion of speed.Banana Man wrote:
I'm so bored of hearing about how slow FE is.
The current gen. cars are 190kW and will do about 145mph, which is on par with quite a few racing series. Next season's cars will be 250kW and well within the bracket of 155mph for your average touring car, to 185mph for a GP3 car.
Right now they are better suited to street circuits but they definitely seem to be outgrowing some of them. I think a next gen. FE car would be decent enough around Monaco, Singapore, Baku, Montreal or Budapest.
The opposite is also true... watched today's SpaceX Heavy rocket launch. Without other objects in the frame flashing by, the rocket appeared quite slow, while actually clocking from 5,000-17,000 mph.
As a one-time TV Producer, I know a little about these things. Placing the current cars on a wide open circuit with the cameras and microphones far away, and the racing will "appear" and "sound" boring as hell, leading to the immediate death of the sport. It's good to hear that future cars will up the speed ante... BEFORE moving to more wide-open venues.
People watch touring cars at Silverstone, and I think an FE car is probably faster than a lot of them.mikeyg123 wrote:I'm a big fan of FE but an FE car around Silverstone would look very pedestrian. They'd hit top speed about a third of the way down the hanger straight and would look very slow in the high speed corners. An FE car isn't slow but it is slow when compared to what people are used to watching on purpose built tracks.
I reckon FE top speed is quite similar to BTCC. Acceleration is faster.Exediron wrote:People watch touring cars at Silverstone, and I think an FE car is probably faster than a lot of them.mikeyg123 wrote:I'm a big fan of FE but an FE car around Silverstone would look very pedestrian. They'd hit top speed about a third of the way down the hanger straight and would look very slow in the high speed corners. An FE car isn't slow but it is slow when compared to what people are used to watching on purpose built tracks.
Just in case, there are shortened version of all British racetrack for slower series.wolfticket wrote:I reckon FE top speed is quite similar to BTCC. Acceleration is faster.Exediron wrote:People watch touring cars at Silverstone, and I think an FE car is probably faster than a lot of them.mikeyg123 wrote:I'm a big fan of FE but an FE car around Silverstone would look very pedestrian. They'd hit top speed about a third of the way down the hanger straight and would look very slow in the high speed corners. An FE car isn't slow but it is slow when compared to what people are used to watching on purpose built tracks.