Prost did turn in early, or simply slammed the door shut. Or both; turns in early to close the door, according to the racing etiquette of the day. It wouldn't have looked very pretty, but the corner was his, as Ramirez confirms.mikeyg123 wrote:GingerFurball wrote:mikeyg123 wrote:Prost caused the crash before the corner by taking an abnormal line and turning way too early. This isn't a case of a driver not yielding it's a case of Prost driving into the side of Senna.
You keep parroting this however I don't think Prost's onboard supports this.
Look at the angle of the front left wheel here just as Prost turns in decisively.
He's going to cut the corner. Nobody who intends to take that corner would turn in there.
I can only agree to a certain degree. Ramirez gives further weight to the idea that Senna was too fast to take the corner; confirming Prost's judgement.mikeyg123 wrote:Fiki wrote:From "Senna versus Prost" by Malcolm Folley (Arrow books): [quote=Jo Ramirez]I told Prost he had made the two biggest mistakes of his career. Firstly, when Ayrton went on the inside you should have left him, not closed the door. He was going so quick there was no way he would have got round the corner.
You will find the second in the book.
Ramirez agrees with those who found Senna's attempt desperate - as Hunt said straightaway. The problem remains, how to defend against it. Because Ramirez doesn't say how he thought Prost should have reacted. And this was at the chicane in its first configuration; much tighter than it is these days.
What? Ramirez says exactly that - "when Ayrton went on the inside you should have left him, not closed the door."
He says exactly what he thinks Prost should have done. I don't know how he could have made it clearer.
I mean I disagree with the premise anyway but you can't have it both ways.
What Ramirez doesn't say, is how Prost was supposed to react differently. In other words, Ramirez explains how Senna's "yield or accept a crash" overtaking worked.
With the chicane as tight as it was then, how on earth was Prost supposed to retain or regain the lead? You can rule out a simple switchback, the chicane didn't allow for it, unless Senna cleanly overshot the chicane, and before Prost had to turn in behind him - one of the prime reasons for disliking chicanes on a race track in the first place.
The very essence of a dive bomb attack is that the outcome is always negative for the one being attacked; a loss of position even if the corner was his, or a crash.
I would like to read whatever Ramirez has said beyond the small quote I found on the subject. Perhaps he explained further in his own memoirs, I don't know. But the essence of what he said in the quote I found, is first and foremost that Prost's judgement in the cockpit, of Senna's speed and distance was correct.