2017 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread

zaar · Post by **zaar** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:19 pm

neek wrote:Good drive from Vettel tho to get back up into P3

He would need Kimi to wait for him. There is no point in doing that as long as Bottas and Verstappen are still in front.

F1Tyrant · Post by **F1Tyrant** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:20 pm

neek wrote:Good drive from Vettel tho to get back up into P3

Didn't lose a huge amount of time driving two sectors with a puncture.

neek · Post by **neek** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:20 pm

Bit of a silly reply from Merc 'negative' ...what if Bottas or Max retire :/

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:20 pm

I could see Massa holding off Hamilton for a long time.

Herb Tarlik · Post by **Herb Tarlik** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:20 pm

Hamilton's pit says it's game over.

flyboy10 · Post by **flyboy10** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:20 pm

Alienturnedhuman wrote:
flyboy10 wrote:
IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:Verstappen's last victory ever. I don't see how Red Bull can demote Kvyat again, since his contract has been finished.
I don't understand. Are you saying Max isn't keeping his seat at Red Bull?
No, he's referring to Kyvat. Every single one of Verstappen's victories occurred after Kyvat got demoted.

Oh, I see. I get it. I heard Brundle saying that's when Verstappen's victories had come. Blah to superstition.

Aspar · Post by **Aspar** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:21 pm

Wow that was some skill and bravery from Hamilton with Masa, given their history...

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:21 pm

Ahahahaha. So much for my theory. Very good pass from Hamilton on Massa.

Herb Tarlik · Post by **Herb Tarlik** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:21 pm

Invade wrote:I could see Massa holding off Hamilton for a long time.

Really?

sandman1347 · Post by **sandman1347** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:22 pm

All Hamilton needs to do is pass a couple of more cars and it's over for 2017.

flyboy10 · Post by **flyboy10** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:22 pm

Herb Tarlik wrote:Hamilton's pit says it's game over.

How can he be so adamant that Vettel can't possibly get P2?

GingerFurball · Post by **GingerFurball** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:22 pm

Bit disappointing that everyone's just jumped out of Vettel's way.

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:22 pm

At least Massa covers the inside and makes Hamilton work for it.

zaar · Post by **zaar** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:23 pm

Aspar wrote:Wow that was some skill and bravery from Hamilton with Masa, given their history...

Massa left him all space possible. For more he would have needed to evaporate

Herb Tarlik · Post by **Herb Tarlik** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:23 pm

flyboy10 wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:Hamilton's pit says it's game over.
How can he be so adamant that Vettel can't possibly get P2?

Simple logic. As things stand now, Vettel has no chance to get into P2. An extraordinary event can change that, but that's a future reply, not the current one.

flyboy10 · Post by **flyboy10** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:23 pm

Aspar wrote:Wow that was some skill and bravery from Hamilton with Masa, given their history...

Massa was very easy on Vettel.

lamo · Post by **lamo** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:24 pm

F1_Ernie wrote:At least Massa covers the inside and makes Hamilton work for it.

Stroll finishing 6th could see Massa lose to his team mate for the 9th straight year and bolster his record of most defeats to a team mate in F1 history.

zaar · Post by **zaar** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:24 pm

flyboy10 wrote:
Aspar wrote:Wow that was some skill and bravery from Hamilton with Masa, given their history...
Massa was very easy on Vettel.

What?

Herb Tarlik · Post by **Herb Tarlik** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:24 pm

GingerFurball wrote:Bit disappointing that everyone's just jumped out of Vettel's way.

Can you blame them? The rules dont apply to Vettel so all bets are off if you stand in his way.

flyboy10 · Post by **flyboy10** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:24 pm

Herb Tarlik wrote:
flyboy10 wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:Hamilton's pit says it's game over.
How can he be so adamant that Vettel can't possibly get P2?
Simple logic. As things stand now, Vettel has no chance to get into P2. An extraordinary event can change that, but that's a future reply, not the current one.

Hamilton asked, "Is that possible for him?"

Alienturnedhuman · Post by **Alienturnedhuman** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:24 pm

flyboy10 wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:Hamilton's pit says it's game over.
How can he be so adamant that Vettel can't possibly get P2?

Hamilton is P10. For Vettel to get P2 he needs a retirement of Verstappen or Bottas. That puts Hamilton into P9.

So Vettel needs both of the front two cars to retire to stay in the title race.

Herb Tarlik · Post by **Herb Tarlik** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:24 pm

Mama Mia!

zaar · Post by **zaar** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:24 pm

Herb Tarlik wrote:
GingerFurball wrote:Bit disappointing that everyone's just jumped out of Vettel's way.
Can you blame them? The rules dont apply to Vettel so all bets are off if you stand in his way.

Your continuous repetitions sound like a broken record ...

SDLRob · Post by **SDLRob** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:24 pm

Oh Mama Mia....

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:25 pm

flyboy10 wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:
flyboy10 wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:Hamilton's pit says it's game over.
How can he be so adamant that Vettel can't possibly get P2?
Simple logic. As things stand now, Vettel has no chance to get into P2. An extraordinary event can change that, but that's a future reply, not the current one.
Hamilton asked, "Is that possible for him?"

I think it's called keep Lewis calm and bend the truth and keep everything under control. Ham knows breakdowns can happen - everyone knows it. The engineer did a good job I'd say.

Black_Flag_11 · Post by **Black_Flag_11** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:25 pm

“oh Mamma Mia”

Herb Tarlik · Post by **Herb Tarlik** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:25 pm

Even Vettel knows he has no chance, unlike some here.

Herb Tarlik · Post by **Herb Tarlik** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:26 pm

Kimi has to stop in order to let Vettel by. He's 25 seconds up the field.

Herb Tarlik · Post by **Herb Tarlik** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:27 pm

Verstappen blowing up is Vettel's only hope.

Flash2k11 · Post by **Flash2k11** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:27 pm

Hamilton is soon going to make even a Verstappen retirement a non issue. Vettel needs both Bottas and Verstappen to fall over now.

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:27 pm

Herb Tarlik wrote:Verstappen blowing up is Vettel's only hope.

But that puts Ham in 9th?

zaar · Post by **zaar** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:28 pm

Sainz out? :O

JN23 · Post by **JN23** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:28 pm

Herb Tarlik wrote:Verstappen blowing up is Vettel's only hope.

Even that won't help you'd think. Would put Hamilton into ninth meaning vettel would need the win. Needs Vestappen and Bottas to blow up.

Herb Tarlik · Post by **Herb Tarlik** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:28 pm

Invade wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:Verstappen blowing up is Vettel's only hope.

But that puts Ham in 9th?

Does that score enough points for Hamilton? I've heard conflicting answers on this.

Herb Tarlik · Post by **Herb Tarlik** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:29 pm

Kimi 30 seconds behind Bottas. Vettel needs a rocket powered car.

Flash2k11 · Post by **Flash2k11** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:29 pm

Herb Tarlik wrote:
Invade wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:Verstappen blowing up is Vettel's only hope.

But that puts Ham in 9th?
Does that score enough points for Hamilton? I've heard conflicting answers on this.

2 For Hamilton + Vettel scoring 7 less than a race win == the magic 9.

Alienturnedhuman · Post by **Alienturnedhuman** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:30 pm

Flash2k11 wrote:Hamilton is soon going to make even a Verstappen retirement a non issue. Vettel needs both Bottas and Verstappen to fall over now.

Verstappen retirement puts Hamilton into P9 anyway. Vettel now needs to win or Hamilton to DNF.

Herb Tarlik · Post by **Herb Tarlik** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:30 pm

Flash2k11 wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:
Invade wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:Verstappen blowing up is Vettel's only hope.

But that puts Ham in 9th?
Does that score enough points for Hamilton? I've heard conflicting answers on this.
2 For Hamilton + Vettel scoring 7 less than a race win == the magic 9.

OK, good to know. I'm glad to think that Vettel's rule breaking is not going to extend this championship past today.

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:30 pm

Herb Tarlik wrote:
Invade wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:Verstappen blowing up is Vettel's only hope.

But that puts Ham in 9th?
Does that score enough points for Hamilton? I've heard conflicting answers on this.

Err if Ham has DNFs last two races and Vettel wins both same amount of points but more wins for Ham. Hope I got that right.

Herb Tarlik · Post by **Herb Tarlik** » Sun Oct 29, 2017 8:32 pm

Max sets fastest lap. Pushing his Renault engine all the way to the end.