Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 7:35 pm
Vettel should stop driving into the back of other cars.
Vettel was clearly in front when they entered the corner. Massa shoved him off the trackHerb Tarlik wrote:No, you hit the brakes and try again. JHC do people think that Vettel is just entitled to everything?mikeyg123 wrote:I think if you give someone no option to leave the track you can hardly complain if they overtake you off track.Alienturnedhuman wrote:Vettel has to give that place back to Massa.
A real snoozer, that's for sure.Flash2k11 wrote:Is this the most underwhelming end to a title race ever? lol
Hamilton put himself in a position to have his tyre sliced when it was very unnecessary.zaar wrote:That is a somewhat queer view of this incident, although I agree he touched Hamilton because of lost downforce. But the contact was up to Vettel to avoid. Racing incident from my povPullrod wrote:What a Shame...
A WDC race Now ruined by a guy(Verstappen) who thinks he is still playing videogames.
This was the same stuff Verstappen did to Vettel in Canada.
Vettel had lost downforce after the contact today so he could not brake properly to avoid Hamilton.
What a shame. Good job.
Yep. Vettel hit both of them, and gets away clear and free. Amazing.sandman1347 wrote:That first lap incident was not Mac's fault. If there's blame to be assigned, Vettel must get the lions share as he hit both cars with his front wing and even pushed max word at the first corner.
Utterly, utterly daft post.MasterRacer wrote:Hamilton put himself in a position to have his tyre sliced when it was very unnecessary.zaar wrote:That is a somewhat queer view of this incident, although I agree he touched Hamilton because of lost downforce. But the contact was up to Vettel to avoid. Racing incident from my povPullrod wrote:What a Shame...
A WDC race Now ruined by a guy(Verstappen) who thinks he is still playing videogames.
This was the same stuff Verstappen did to Vettel in Canada.
Vettel had lost downforce after the contact today so he could not brake properly to avoid Hamilton.
What a shame. Good job.
Yep, pretty fitting considering how underwhelming the title fight has gone since the summer break though.Flash2k11 wrote:Is this the most underwhelming end to a title race ever? lol
Indeed, you need to be careful around Vettel.MasterRacer wrote:Hamilton put himself in a position to have his tyre sliced when it was very unnecessary.zaar wrote:That is a somewhat queer view of this incident, although I agree he touched Hamilton because of lost downforce. But the contact was up to Vettel to avoid. Racing incident from my povPullrod wrote:What a Shame...
A WDC race Now ruined by a guy(Verstappen) who thinks he is still playing videogames.
This was the same stuff Verstappen did to Vettel in Canada.
Vettel had lost downforce after the contact today so he could not brake properly to avoid Hamilton.
What a shame. Good job.
I think it'd require Verstappen or Bottas to fail to finish. Not entirely impossible I guess, though i've a feeling Vettel is going to need to stop again.Invade wrote:Well - let's see if Vettel can put in a performance for the ages to finish 2nd and somehow keep the race going. Wouldn't that be extraordinary?
No, considering he had to ram his opponent out of the race and go unpunished. Without it there is nothing else Vettel could do.Invade wrote:Well - let's see if Vettel can put in a performance for the ages to finish 2nd and somehow keep the race going. Wouldn't that be extraordinary?
Honda are doing pretty well though, eh?Herb Tarlik wrote:The Renault's cooling system probably can't handle this high altitude.
I believe so and that it was 3.8 seconds same as Ham's.neek wrote:Did Bottas pit?
Well, when you are that slow you dont generate as much heat thus lowering your need for cooling.Black_Flag_11 wrote:Honda are doing pretty well though, eh?Herb Tarlik wrote:The Renault's cooling system probably can't handle this high altitude.
Well it was stupid of Hamilton to give Seb the opportunity. He had nothing to lose as he needed Hamilton out of the points. Hamilton should have just sat in behind Seb. I don't think it was an accident but it is impossible to punish because you can't prove it was deliberate.Aspar wrote:No, considering he had to ram his opponent out of the race and go unpunished. Without it there is nothing else Vettel could do.Invade wrote:Well - let's see if Vettel can put in a performance for the ages to finish 2nd and somehow keep the race going. Wouldn't that be extraordinary?
If this really happens, i would be furious if i was a merc boss and insturct Bottas to go kamikadze on Vettel next race. Obiously FIA tolerates such driving if it's fine with its plans to make artificial thrillers at the end of the season.
I don't think Hamilton did anything stupid. There's no way to just sit back as that would have led to him being swarmed by the drivers behind. He did a good job of avoiding Max and Sen without losing momentum. It was Vettel who made contact.MasterRacer wrote:Well it was stupid of Hamilton to give Seb the opportunity. He had nothing to lose as he needed Hamilton out of the points. Hamilton should have just sat in behind Seb. I don't think it was an accident but it is impossible to punish because you can't prove it was deliberate.Aspar wrote:No, considering he had to ram his opponent out of the race and go unpunished. Without it there is nothing else Vettel could do.Invade wrote:Well - let's see if Vettel can put in a performance for the ages to finish 2nd and somehow keep the race going. Wouldn't that be extraordinary?
If this really happens, i would be furious if i was a merc boss and insturct Bottas to go kamikadze on Vettel next race. Obiously FIA tolerates such driving if it's fine with its plans to make artificial thrillers at the end of the season.
If it's cooling issues, he at least has the advantage of (mostly) being in clear air. Still plenty of crossed fingers in the RB garage I'd guess.zaar wrote:I think, Verstappen should start to manage his engine. Bottas is no match and all other competitors are in no position to put any threat on him.
Which emphasized even more why it should be punishable, if a driver feels he can do things like this because he has nothing to lose, it deserves a penalty even more. That's not carmaggedon. So you think F1 should be a circus, where pilots don't race and drive normally but hide and run away from a kamikadze on the track, cause he has nothing to lose and won't be penalized? Hamilton and Verstappen drove normally, Vettel hit them both.MasterRacer wrote:Well it was stupid of Hamilton to give Seb the opportunity. He had nothing to lose as he needed Hamilton out of the points. Hamilton should have just sat in behind Seb. I don't think it was an accident but it is impossible to punish because you can't prove it was deliberate.Aspar wrote:No, considering he had to ram his opponent out of the race and go unpunished. Without it there is nothing else Vettel could do.Invade wrote:Well - let's see if Vettel can put in a performance for the ages to finish 2nd and somehow keep the race going. Wouldn't that be extraordinary?
If this really happens, i would be furious if i was a merc boss and insturct Bottas to go kamikadze on Vettel next race. Obiously FIA tolerates such driving if it's fine with its plans to make artificial thrillers at the end of the season.