2017 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread
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Yes he's good at hitting cars that try to pass him.Zblogger wrote:Schumacher forever#1 wrote:Jesus it's easy to forget how much we miss Alonso's racing in F1.
I just wonder what he could be doing with a decent car behind him. the guy is Amazing. Great little fight there.
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More risky than necessary but I'm sure he enjoyed itInvade wrote:The joy of racing.flyboy10 wrote:Why is Hamilton fighting so hard for points, considering where Vettel is?
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Well driven and controlled Max - super weekend.
Fantastic season for Lewis Hamilton. 4xWDC... outstanding.
Next year we'll have two 4xWDCs battling against the other, and I expect Red Bull will be there and don't rule out McLaren.
Fantastic season for Lewis Hamilton. 4xWDC... outstanding.
Next year we'll have two 4xWDCs battling against the other, and I expect Red Bull will be there and don't rule out McLaren.
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Well done Lewis, congrats champ!!!
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Apart from Alonso asking about a legal passZblogger wrote:pokerman wrote:Alonso hits Hamiltons car and then asks about track limits, the only driver that played it clean was Hamilton.
Was a lovely little duel there though.
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Congrats Hamilton & his fans... deserved title win.
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A Red Bull leads every lap and sets fastest laps at the end. Where have I seen that before?
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Alonso has always been a whiney primadona, but he still has skills and that fight with Hamilton was joy to watch.pokerman wrote:Apart from Alonso asking about a legal passZblogger wrote:pokerman wrote:Alonso hits Hamiltons car and then asks about track limits, the only driver that played it clean was Hamilton.
Was a lovely little duel there though.
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Congratulations Lewis Hamilton and Mercedes. What a run they've had! Hamilton is truly in the top class of all time!
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Hamilton was 26 seconds behind Vettel once they had both pitted but the Ferrari probably had the race pace on Mercedes too today.F1Tyrant wrote:Vettel merely had to drive the last two sectors of lap 1 with a damaged front wing. Hamilton had to do it with no right-rear tyre.flyboy10 wrote:Why is Hamilton fighting so hard for points, considering where Vettel is?
Hamilton lost huge amounts of time that Vettel simply didn't. Punctures are generally more damaging.
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I'm not joking. Hamilton would have easily got fifth without a first lap incident. Don't forget Seb already had damage too so he really needed to cut his tyre to have a prayer.zaar wrote:At first I thought you were joking but now ...MasterRacer wrote:It was his only chance. He made it look accidental and is the driver of the day with incredible moves all over the track. But he needed a safety car to really get the rewards he needed.Herb Tarlik wrote:Vettel only has himself to blame for his defeat today. It was his brain dead move to hit TWO cars on lap 1 and send himself into the pits for a new nose.
That assumption is beyond ridiculous.
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Awesome, wish I was there.
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Coulthard would ya go away hahahaha
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Oaf of the day perhaps?MasterRacer wrote:It was his only chance. He made it look accidental and is the driver of the day with incredible moves all over the track. But he needed a safety car to really get the rewards he needed.Herb Tarlik wrote:Vettel only has himself to blame for his defeat today. It was his brain dead move to hit TWO cars on lap 1 and send himself into the pits for a new nose.
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Congratulations to Lewis for securing the championship. It was a solid race after the misfortune of losing his tire on the first lap through no fault of his own. I think he is quite deserving of this one and is driver of the year to boot.
For Vettel it was a disasterous first lap. I think he was pushing too hard there into the first corner and really got out of shape there. He also took Lewis out there and was lucky to get away with it. He did show his class though in this race and from lap 2 onwards I felt he was driver of the day. Furious charge through the field today and it just wasn't on the cards unfortunately. That said, Ferrari will very much see this season as a major step forward. They were right there at the front with Mercedes and with the winter coming, they could pull ahead if they out-develop them.
For Max, we have seen in recent races that he is finally starting to cash in on the results that his pace suggests he should produce. He is something special and next season should be very interesting between the top 3 teams (and possibly McLaren too) provided Renault are able to make their engine competitive.
For Vettel it was a disasterous first lap. I think he was pushing too hard there into the first corner and really got out of shape there. He also took Lewis out there and was lucky to get away with it. He did show his class though in this race and from lap 2 onwards I felt he was driver of the day. Furious charge through the field today and it just wasn't on the cards unfortunately. That said, Ferrari will very much see this season as a major step forward. They were right there at the front with Mercedes and with the winter coming, they could pull ahead if they out-develop them.
For Max, we have seen in recent races that he is finally starting to cash in on the results that his pace suggests he should produce. He is something special and next season should be very interesting between the top 3 teams (and possibly McLaren too) provided Renault are able to make their engine competitive.
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He only asked in hope and his voice was resigned, because usually he'd be screaming about an illegal move.pokerman wrote:Apart from Alonso asking about a legal passZblogger wrote:pokerman wrote:Alonso hits Hamiltons car and then asks about track limits, the only driver that played it clean was Hamilton.
Was a lovely little duel there though.
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Always asking for drivers to be penalised when he tries to push them off the track is classlessMasterRacer wrote:He only asked in hope and his voice was resigned, because usually he'd be screaming about an illegal move.pokerman wrote:Apart from Alonso asking about a legal passZblogger wrote:pokerman wrote:Alonso hits Hamiltons car and then asks about track limits, the only driver that played it clean was Hamilton.
Was a lovely little duel there though.
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Ok it's over now I can breath again. 

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The Renault is already quick! It just needs to be more reliable!sandman1347 wrote:He is something special and next season should be very interesting between the top 3 teams (and possibly McLaren too) provided Renault are able to make their engine competitive.

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In a strange way it was an exciting race even though really we all assumed the title race was long over. Well perhaps I'm only speaking for myself.
Anyway, hugely impressive from Max Verstappen. Red Bull are genuinely competitive with Mercedes and Ferrari. I don't think they'll quite be this strong at the last two races but they have made huge strides and it bodes wonderfully well for 2018.
Anyway, hugely impressive from Max Verstappen. Red Bull are genuinely competitive with Mercedes and Ferrari. I don't think they'll quite be this strong at the last two races but they have made huge strides and it bodes wonderfully well for 2018.
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To be honest: in contrast to Massa against Vettel the duel between Alonso was hard but fair racing. Alonso did not leave really much space for Hamilton but just enough for Hamilton to stay beside him without leaving the track.pokerman wrote:Always asking for drivers to be penalised when he tries to push them off the track is classlessMasterRacer wrote:He only asked in hope and his voice was resigned, because usually he'd be screaming about an illegal move.pokerman wrote:Apart from Alonso asking about a legal passZblogger wrote:pokerman wrote:Alonso hits Hamiltons car and then asks about track limits, the only driver that played it clean was Hamilton.
Was a lovely little duel there though.
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Alonso wasn't asking for a penalty, he just asked if Lewis had left the track to pass him. Given how much Alonso squeezed Hamilton on the outside it's a reasonable question to ask.pokerman wrote:Always asking for drivers to be penalised when he tries to push them off the track is classlessMasterRacer wrote:He only asked in hope and his voice was resigned, because usually he'd be screaming about an illegal move.pokerman wrote:Apart from Alonso asking about a legal passZblogger wrote:pokerman wrote:Alonso hits Hamiltons car and then asks about track limits, the only driver that played it clean was Hamilton.
Was a lovely little duel there though.
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He sure is looking good lately.zaar wrote:I'm not at all convinced that Verstappen is no. 2 at Red BullOcon wrote:So all the second drivers in the first three places, doesn't happen often.
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I agree that Max is special. No ordinary talent indeed. I'm convinced he'll be consistently one of the best three drivers on the grid over the course of most of his career and often the best. We've seen raw speed, good race management (OK he took risks today I guess there's still work to do there) and the ability to make up places off the start consistently. He's a shark out there.
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I would actually be more surprised to see Vettel win the title next season than I would to see either one of the Red Bull drivers. I think they're clearly the 2nd best car and may well have the best race package at the moment.Invade wrote:In a strange way it was an exciting race even though really we all assumed the title race was long over. Well perhaps I'm only speaking for myself.
Anyway, hugely impressive from Max Verstappen. Red Bull are genuinely competitive with Mercedes and Ferrari. I don't think they'll quite be this strong at the last two races but they have made huge strides and it bodes wonderfully well for 2018.
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There's nothing between Mercedes/Red Bull/Ferrari at the moment. It's really down to who puts together the best weekend now (basically it's been like this since Singapore).GingerFurball wrote:I would actually be more surprised to see Vettel win the title next season than I would to see either one of the Red Bull drivers. I think they're clearly the 2nd best car and may well have the best race package at the moment.Invade wrote:In a strange way it was an exciting race even though really we all assumed the title race was long over. Well perhaps I'm only speaking for myself.
Anyway, hugely impressive from Max Verstappen. Red Bull are genuinely competitive with Mercedes and Ferrari. I don't think they'll quite be this strong at the last two races but they have made huge strides and it bodes wonderfully well for 2018.
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I don't think Raikkonen and Bottas could be at a place that suited them less up there with the dj
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Grats to Hamilton on title number 4. Vettel confirms his position as the grids biggest lap 1 liability. That boy needs to have a word with himself. Brundle calls the race "Hamilton's poorest of the season". I personally think Brundle and Crofty's commentary for this race was the worst I have ever heard in F1. Utterly awful by the pair of them fron start toi finish.
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sandman1347 wrote:There's nothing between Mercedes/Red Bull/Ferrari at the moment. It's really down to who puts together the best weekend now (basically it's been like this since Singapore).GingerFurball wrote:I would actually be more surprised to see Vettel win the title next season than I would to see either one of the Red Bull drivers. I think they're clearly the 2nd best car and may well have the best race package at the moment.Invade wrote:In a strange way it was an exciting race even though really we all assumed the title race was long over. Well perhaps I'm only speaking for myself.
Anyway, hugely impressive from Max Verstappen. Red Bull are genuinely competitive with Mercedes and Ferrari. I don't think they'll quite be this strong at the last two races but they have made huge strides and it bodes wonderfully well for 2018.
Yeh depends on the circuit right now. Merc were probably third best in quali and race today but I still think there were only 3 or so tenths in it in qualifying (check comments in fastest car thread) and there weren't huge differences in race pace today either and we didn't get to use Hamilton as any sort of vague barometer today - I wonder if he also had some car damage that limited his race pace.
Very much balanced between the top three teams now. Fundamentally, I agree.
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Schumacher forever#1 wrote:I don't think Raikkonen and Bottas could be at a place that suited them less up there with the dj

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What a party!!!!
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Mercedes the last 4 years?Black_Flag_11 wrote:A Red Bull leads every lap and sets fastest laps at the end. Where have I seen that before?
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I think Kimi could be a dj, he seems very musical.Schumacher forever#1 wrote:I don't think Raikkonen and Bottas could be at a place that suited them less up there with the dj

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Watching the replay of the start is not pretty.
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I wouldn't be suprised if Hamilton did have damage but we saw again one of the Mercedes weakness which is following in the dirty air.Invade wrote:sandman1347 wrote:There's nothing between Mercedes/Red Bull/Ferrari at the moment. It's really down to who puts together the best weekend now (basically it's been like this since Singapore).GingerFurball wrote:I would actually be more surprised to see Vettel win the title next season than I would to see either one of the Red Bull drivers. I think they're clearly the 2nd best car and may well have the best race package at the moment.Invade wrote:In a strange way it was an exciting race even though really we all assumed the title race was long over. Well perhaps I'm only speaking for myself.
Anyway, hugely impressive from Max Verstappen. Red Bull are genuinely competitive with Mercedes and Ferrari. I don't think they'll quite be this strong at the last two races but they have made huge strides and it bodes wonderfully well for 2018.
Yeh depends on the circuit right now. Merc were probably third best in quali and race today but I still think there were only 3 or so tenths in it in qualifying (check comments in fastest car thread) and there weren't huge differences in race pace today either and we didn't get to use Hamilton as any sort of vague barometer today - I wonder if he also had some car damage that limited his race pace.
Very much balanced between the top three teams now. Fundamentally, I agree.
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