2017 Mexican Grand Prix Race Thread

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Herb Tarlik wrote:
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Herb Tarlik wrote:The Renault's cooling system probably can't handle this high altitude.
Honda are doing pretty well though, eh? ;)
Well, when you are that slow you dont generate as much heat thus lowering your need for cooling.
:lol: touché

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MasterRacer wrote:
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Invade wrote:Well - let's see if Vettel can put in a performance for the ages to finish 2nd and somehow keep the race going. Wouldn't that be extraordinary?
No, considering he had to ram his opponent out of the race and go unpunished. Without it there is nothing else Vettel could do.
If this really happens, i would be furious if i was a merc boss and insturct Bottas to go kamikadze on Vettel next race. Obiously FIA tolerates such driving if it's fine with its plans to make artificial thrillers at the end of the season.
Well it was stupid of Hamilton to give Seb the opportunity. He had nothing to lose as he needed Hamilton out of the points. Hamilton should have just sat in behind Seb. I don't think it was an accident but it is impossible to punish because you can't prove it was deliberate. :)
Sit behind Vettel and go offline, you come out with some rubbish.
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9th on for Lewis. Seb has to win the race.

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F1Tyrant wrote:To be fair, Vettel had the inside line, he should have been left space...
Technically he was on the outside of that corner

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It was a racing incident but it's curious how often Vettel gets involved with them at the start. The stewards made the right call IMO.

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Herb Tarlik wrote:IT's just ridiculous that Vettel was not even investigated for his first lap infractions. They were "noted" but not investigated. It seems to me that the stewards buried their head because if they looked, they would have to act.
What does "noted" mean in this context?

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Vettel isn't getting up to second without a couple retirements. Max's engine might blow and Kimi may let him pass, but everyone else ahead of him has a Merc engine.

Hamilton himself will probably drag himself within the points, probably even top 7/8 with some measured driving.

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LOL Max being told off for going too fast. "I'm sorry *giggling*."

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Pullrod wrote:What a Shame...
A WDC race Now ruined by a guy(Verstappen) who thinks he is still playing videogames.
This was the same stuff Verstappen did to Vettel in Canada.

Vettel had lost downforce after the contact today so he could not brake properly to avoid Hamilton.

What a shame. Good job.
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I hope Max doesn't rue his fun later on!

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Either Gasly driving well or the Mercedes struggling hugely in dirty air.
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zaar wrote:
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Alienturnedhuman wrote:Vettel has to give that place back to Massa.
I think if you give someone no option to leave the track you can hardly complain if they overtake you off track.
No, you hit the brakes and try again. JHC do people think that Vettel is just entitled to everything?
Vettel was clearly in front when they entered the corner. Massa shoved him off the track
They were level

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flyboy10 wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:IT's just ridiculous that Vettel was not even investigated for his first lap infractions. They were "noted" but not investigated. It seems to me that the stewards buried their head because if they looked, they would have to act.
What does "noted" mean in this context?
A very good question. I've not seen that from the stewards in the past.

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Invade wrote:LOL Max being told off for going too fast. "I'm sorry *giggling*."
Well, he will be sorry, if his engine bursts (I don't want to imply this would be Verstappens fault).

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Max Verstappen and the joy of racing.

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Clarky wrote:
zaar wrote:
Herb Tarlik wrote:
mikeyg123 wrote:
Alienturnedhuman wrote:Vettel has to give that place back to Massa.
I think if you give someone no option to leave the track you can hardly complain if they overtake you off track.
No, you hit the brakes and try again. JHC do people think that Vettel is just entitled to everything?
Vettel was clearly in front when they entered the corner. Massa shoved him off the track
They were level
For some people the definition of "level" seems to be connected to the drivers involved ...

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Watch it again then come back to me.

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Vettel needs an actual safety car (not virtual)
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Hamilton's team predicts that his pace is good for P8. Vettel has to win then.

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looks like it's3 out of three for the Kvyat Verstappen saga
Corskey wrote:So every time Kvyat gets demoted Verstappen wins :o

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Ocon really is in superb form right now.

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Corskey wrote:looks like it's3 out of three for the Kvyat Verstappen saga
Corskey wrote:So every time Kvyat gets demoted Verstappen wins :o
They'll have to evict him from his flat or something next time lol

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Really cannot see Vettel getting 2nd.... title race over
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Time for Vettel to get busy.

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chetan_rao wrote:Vettel isn't getting up to second without a couple retirements. Max's engine might blow and Kimi may let him pass, but everyone else ahead of him has a Merc engine.

Hamilton himself will probably drag himself within the points, probably even top 7/8 with some measured driving.
Also, every retirement that puts Vettel up a place also puts Hamilton up one as well.

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Verstappen's last victory ever. I don't see how Red Bull can demote Kvyat again, since his contract has been finished.

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For some people the definition of "level" seems to be connected to the drivers involved ...
Is the portion of track between that left and right corner considered to be a straight?

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SDLRob wrote:Really cannot see Vettel getting 2nd.... title race over
In no just world does Vettel keep the title fight alive. Baku showed his dark side, Singapore and Mexico his foolishness.
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Best overtake of the race till now, I think. Well done Sebastian.

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As per usual this season Vettel taking risks and displaying some scintillating race-craft.

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IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:Best overtake of the race till now, I think. Well done Sebastian.
:lol:

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IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:Verstappen's last victory ever. I don't see how Red Bull can demote Kvyat again, since his contract has been finished.
I don't understand. Are you saying Max isn't keeping his seat at Red Bull?

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F1Tyrant wrote:
SDLRob wrote:Really cannot see Vettel getting 2nd.... title race over
In no just world does Vettel keep the title fight alive. Baku showed his dark side, Singapore and Mexico his foolishness.
Yeah... I agree with that
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flyboy10 wrote:
For some people the definition of "level" seems to be connected to the drivers involved ...
Is the portion of track between that left and right corner considered to be a straight?
That's not the question (at least not for me). Vettel was almost a car length ahead when they approached the corner but then Masse braked too late. That was the only reason, why he was beside Vettel for some time (but even then behind him). There was no way for him to make the corner and so he pushed Vettel off the track.

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flyboy10 wrote:
IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:Verstappen's last victory ever. I don't see how Red Bull can demote Kvyat again, since his contract has been finished.
I don't understand. Are you saying Max isn't keeping his seat at Red Bull?
Sigh, it's a joke. Verstappen wins whenever Kvyat is demoted. Kvyat can't be demoted again, so Verstappen never wins. :lol:

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Good drive from Vettel tho to get back up into P3

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flyboy10 wrote:
IDrinkYourMilkshake wrote:Verstappen's last victory ever. I don't see how Red Bull can demote Kvyat again, since his contract has been finished.
I don't understand. Are you saying Max isn't keeping his seat at Red Bull?
No, he's referring to Kyvat. Every single one of Verstappen's victories occurred after Kyvat got demoted.

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What's Brundle saying? Hamilton's not in the points yet. He's 16 seconds off eighth. Then he repeats his earlier non sequitur that Vettel wouldn't want to damage his wing on Hamilton's tyre.

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Excellent recovery from Vettel but he needs some good luck (from his perspective) to fall his way.

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