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Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:44 pm
by kleefton
So the big question in q3 is: can ferrari and merc higher engine modes cover verstappen’s pace.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:45 pm
by Invade
kleefton wrote:So the big question in q3 is: can ferrari and merc higher engine modes cover verstappen’s pace.
Max wants an extra warm-up lap for Q3 to emulate his Q2 exploits, where the double yellows caused him to abort a fast lap.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:49 pm
by LBET
Very close at the top!
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:50 pm
by LBET
Renault reliability issues resurface yet again. It's like a flippin lottery but not in a good way.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:52 pm
by Herb Tarlik
Max ruins Bottas' lap.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:53 pm
by pokerman
That's pole for Verstappen
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:54 pm
by pokerman
Herb Tarlik wrote:Max ruins Bottas' lap.
It put Bottas off but I think it won't be viewed as a block I think he left enough room.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:55 pm
by ynot22
I hope this quali stays like this to shake things up
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:55 pm
by Invade
Max repeats his 1:16.5 using an extra warm-up lap (well he aborted a fairly fast lap later into the lap).
Big target for the rest.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:55 pm
by Zoue
Max 9 tenths ahead of Dan!
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:55 pm
by kleefton
pokerman wrote:That's pole for Verstappen
Yep he has more pace in that car too. Didnt nail sector 3 on that last lap.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:56 pm
by pokerman
ynot22 wrote:I hope this quali stays like this to shake things up
I think Bottas can get second
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:58 pm
by Herb Tarlik
The FIA is investigating Max.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:58 pm
by mikeyg123
Absurd to even investigate it. Verstappen has to be somewhere.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:58 pm
by Banana Man
I don't think Max had anywhere better to go in those circumstances.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 6:59 pm
by PRFAN
MAX should be on the clear, Bottas messed up all alone there.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:01 pm
by mikeyg123
Superb from Vettel.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:02 pm
by pokerman
Unlucky for Verstappen, I think he will get away with the incident but still a bit naughty to back up.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:02 pm
by Herb Tarlik
50 poles for Vettel. Well done.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:03 pm
by Invade
Vettel denies Verstappen his first pole position.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:03 pm
by Black_Flag_11
Woah I couldn’t see anyone touching Verstappen for pole after those first runs. Looked like it was just a case of drivers not being able to get into the window for the tyres.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:03 pm
by kleefton
Lol I predicted vettel would get pole here but it really was max’s to lose and he lost it.
Congrats to seb. Always there when it counts it seems.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:03 pm
by pokerman
mikeyg123 wrote:Absurd to even investigate it. Verstappen has to be somewhere.
It's backing off from the flying lap that might be a problem to be investigated but I think he will be alright.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:04 pm
by F1Tyrant
The Ferrari has been the car to beat on the shorter, less engine dominaed tracks all year. Kudos to Vettel punting Max into P2.
2018 is going to be fascinating if Mercedes have to change their aero concept.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:05 pm
by pokerman
Excellent lap from Vettel for pole.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:05 pm
by Black_Flag_11
mikeyg123 wrote:Absurd to even investigate it. Verstappen has to be somewhere.
he put himself off the racing line and slowed so he wouldn’t interfere at the next corner. He couldn’t have done any more and it’s not his fault if Bottas locked up.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:05 pm
by Lt. Drebin
Magnificent from Vettel to beat the "super annoyed" Max and Hamilton in his prime. One of the worst quali for Mercedes.
Back to Vettel - he did this in a champ way.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:06 pm
by pokerman
F1Tyrant wrote:The Ferrari has been the car to beat on the shorter, less engine dominaed tracks all year. Kudos to Vettel punting Max into P2.
2018 is going to be fascinating if Mercedes have to change their aero concept.
The car has certain deficiencies
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:06 pm
by Fiki
Waiting to hear the penalty for Verstappen. I doubt it can be overlooked.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:07 pm
by pokerman
Lt. Drebin wrote:Magnificent from Vettel to beat the "super annoyed" Max and sliding Hamilton. One of the worst quali for Mercedes,
Its another track were Mercedes just lack a bit.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:07 pm
by mikeyg123
pokerman wrote:mikeyg123 wrote:Absurd to even investigate it. Verstappen has to be somewhere.
It's backing off from the flying lap that might be a problem to be investigated but I think he will be alright.
I pretty sure you're allowed to back off a flying lap if you want to.... I've never heard of that being a problem before. He had backed off way before Bottas caught him. It's not unusual.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:08 pm
by veffy
So is the VER > RIC gap due to the upgraded engine? It's a solid upgrade if so
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:09 pm
by veffy
veffy wrote:So is the VER > RIC gap due to the upgraded engine? It's a solid upgrade if so
And it's great news for Mclaren next year if it's the case
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:09 pm
by Invade
Vettel and Verstappen destroyed their team-mates. The cars looked very balanced around the track. Mercedes showed excellent pace during long runs in practice so I think we'll have a three-way battle for the win.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:10 pm
by Invade
veffy wrote:So is the VER > RIC gap due to the upgraded engine? It's a solid upgrade if so
Maybe it makes up a couple of tenths?
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:10 pm
by UnlikeUday
Fiki wrote:Waiting to hear the penalty for Verstappen. I doubt it can be overlooked.
Verstappen was off the racing line. Bottas screwed his lap by locking.
It's natural to blame one's mistake on another.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:10 pm
by pokerman
mikeyg123 wrote:pokerman wrote:mikeyg123 wrote:Absurd to even investigate it. Verstappen has to be somewhere.
It's backing off from the flying lap that might be a problem to be investigated but I think he will be alright.
I pretty sure you're allowed to back off a flying lap if you want to.... I've never heard of that being a problem before. He had backed off way before Bottas caught him. It's not unusual.
Bottas would not have seen him before he came around the corner but like I say not an obvious block.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:11 pm
by Herb Tarlik
Invade wrote:Vettel and Verstappen destroyed their team-mates. The cars looked very balanced around the track. Mercedes showed excellent pace during long runs in practice so I think we'll have a three-way battle for the win.
Kimi is such a non factor.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:12 pm
by Invade
Seb nailed two exceptionally technical tracks this year in Singapore and Mexico.
Re: 2017 Mexican Grand Prix Free Practice & Qualifying Threa
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 7:13 pm
by kleefton
veffy wrote:So is the VER > RIC gap due to the upgraded engine? It's a solid upgrade if so
It has to be. Looking at the s1 times max wasnt losing anything to ferrari and merc here. Its probably due to the track as well but the gap to Ric is huge.