pokerman wrote:Generally speaking I have to read posts of how Alonso is the best of his generation yet that doesn't seem to translate to how the people that count seem to view him?
I had to carefully read this thread to obtain a definition on "people who count". It appears you just mean people who can count "1 - 2 - 3", instead of those worthy of consideration and respect.
Anyone who postures as being knowledgeable while just accessing Wiki and skimming the numbers off the win/loss column is wading in very shallow water, and lacks a knowledge of the vast history of the sport. Did you know Hawthorn was not exactly an angel, and had little respect from many of his competitors? If one just skims off the win/loss column, such figures as Moss, Villeneuve, or Alesi would appear as barely mid field runners. Yet they are revered and idolized by many fans who watched or were very aware of these drivers.
To properly gauge a driver it can not be performed until at least twenty years after they retired. To look at today's numbers and state "My driver has more wins and titles, thus he's better, neener neener neener" reeks of shallow and immature thinking. Of the top three drivers, Alonso, Hamilton, or Vettel, each one is at the top of his game and given the correct car, can win on any day. As drivers they are all superb. But as we are well aware, each one has very different personalities and behaviors. They take turns doing questionable actions that invoke criticism, triggering crazy and excessive reactions by some fans.
Each Formula One team is a cauldron of deals and politics. Just because any driver is not signed to a team does not indicate he is crap. Many times, deals have been secretly signed, and everyone is waiting for the countdown. Who knows, Alonso could have a signed contract in his hip pocket, and we are none the wiser. Between the teams and driver agents, they are in a perpetual and busy flurry of negotiations and seeking opportunities. This is a constant process, a driver's agent is expected to never stop phoning, to never stop meeting everyone.
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