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NUMBER OF LAPS: 52

CIRCUIT LENGTH: 5.891 KM

RACE DISTANCE: 306.198 KM

LAP RECORD: 1:33.401
By Mark Webber (2013)

Tyres:
Red-marked supersoft tyre
Yellow-marked soft tyre
White-marked medium tyre

Press Conference:
Part 1: Valtteri Bottas (Mercedes), Romain Grosjean (Haas), Jolyon Palmer (Renault), Lance Stroll (Williams)
Part 2: Lewis Hamilton (Mercedes), Daniil Kvyat (Toro Rosso), Daniel Ricciardo (Red Bull), Pascal Wehrlein (Sauber)

Changes made to Silverstone:

The depth of tyre and TecPro barriers has been increased in places around the outside of Turns 1 (Abbey), 2 (Farm), 6 (Brooklands), 9 (Copse), 15 (Stowe) and 16 (Club).

While new double kerbs have been installed on the exit of Turns 9 (Copse) and 18 (Club), a new debris fence has been installed on the left between Turns 14 (Chapel) and 15 (Stowe).

https://www.pitpass.com/59605/Changes-to-Silverstone

No rain this weekend to crash the party like 2016. Only overcast & cloudy weather for the weekend:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/07/13/2 ... x-weather/

UnlikeUday wrote:No rain this weekend to crash the party like 2016. Only overcast & cloudy weather for the weekend:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/07/13/2 ... x-weather/

Trying to predict British weather is akin to predicting lottery numbers. Just guesswork lol.

Laz_T800 wrote:

UnlikeUday wrote:No rain this weekend to crash the party like 2016. Only overcast & cloudy weather for the weekend:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2017/07/13/2 ... x-weather/

Trying to predict British weather is akin to predicting lottery numbers. Just guesswork lol.

Yep I've checked my weather app a few times today and it's said rain this morning, no rain and just overcast around lunchtime and now it's saying rain again.

I was sitting at Woodcote in 2015 and I can tell you that watching those cars try to put their power down in the rain is incredible, you see every twitch and somehow the TV just doesn't do it justice.

I'm at Becketts this Sunday though so it would probably be better for me if it stayed dry.

The shield will make its debut tomorrow:


Source - www.motorsportweek.com

Bottas already faster than last year's pole

I think the shield looks great

mcdo wrote:I think the shield looks great

The little i saw of it i realised you couldn't see the driver at all due to reflections. I'm used to seeing which direction they're looking and what they're hands are doing

Given the choice i would say no to it. But it's not my life i'm risking

Bottas fastest ahead of Hamilton with Vettel trailing after a clumpy spin. Bottas looking good it has to be said, I was wondering if Lewis was going to turn up!

Option or Prime wrote:Bottas fastest ahead of Hamilton with Vettel trailing after a clumpy spin. Bottas looking good it has to be said, I was wondering if Lewis was going to turn up!

By less than a tenth +0.078s

Anyone at the track today? What did the shield look like from the grandstands?

jiminwatford wrote:

mcdo wrote:I think the shield looks great

The little i saw of it i realised you couldn't see the driver at all due to reflections. I'm used to seeing which direction they're looking and what they're hands are doing

Given the choice i would say no to it. But it's not my life i'm risking

To be honest they're so enclosed as it is I haven't noticed that stuff in years. I get that detail from in-car shots and replays

Hamilton now has 1 more contender for the WDC to deal with in the form of Bottas.

UnlikeUday wrote:Hamilton now has 1 more contender for the WDC to deal with in the form of Bottas.

I wonder if Nico is helping him. He's started talking a lot like Nico did last season - taking it one race at a time, and staying in the moment.

Valtteri can win this for Mercedes.

I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then "Bottas is quicker". But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to sound like he thought Hamilton's time was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

Yep it's pretty bad. And of course Lewis is never beaten on merit that just isn't possible . There is always some mitigating factor ,

Andy2402 wrote:Yep it's pretty bad. And of course Lewis is never beaten on merit that just isn't possible . There is always some mitigating factor ,

That sounds like pretty much every Hamilton fan.

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then Bottas is quicker. But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to think was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

One of the posters here has a very similar bit of commentary (I don't recall from whom) as his sig line.

RaggedMan wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then Bottas is quicker. But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to think was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

One of the posters here has a very similar bit of commentary (I don't recall from whom) as his sig line.

Could be wrong but I think it used to be ALESI before he changed it

RaggedMan wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then Bottas is quicker. But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to think was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

One of the posters here has a very similar bit of commentary (I don't recall from whom) as his sig line.

Yes, effectively what I said. But I too can't remember who it is

TheGiantHogweed wrote:

RaggedMan wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then Bottas is quicker. But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to think was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

One of the posters here has a very similar bit of commentary (I don't recall from whom) as his sig line.

Yes, effectively what I said. But I too can't remember who it is

And so it begins.

TheGiantHogweed wrote:

RaggedMan wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then Bottas is quicker. But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to think was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

One of the posters here has a very similar bit of commentary (I don't recall from whom) as his sig line.

Yes, effectively what I said. But I too can't remember who it is

Where's the facepalm emoji?

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then "Bottas is quicker". But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to sound like he thought Hamilton's time was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

I think that was my old sig... so true isn't it.

It was something like, 'Hamilton goes .2 faster, Edwards goes nuclear in his praise, next lap Rosberg goes 0.5 faster - silence'.

I changed it because it made me look anti-Hamilton, but it wasn't, it was anti-Edwards!

ALESI wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then "Bottas is quicker". But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to sound like he thought Hamilton's time was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

I think that was my old sig... so true isn't it.

It was something like, 'Hamilton goes .2 faster, Edwards goes nuclear in his praise, next lap Rosberg goes 0.5 faster - silence'.

Ah, well that answers the question.
I like your current sig as well.

Andy2402 wrote:Yep it's pretty bad. And of course Lewis is never beaten on merit that just isn't possible . There is always some mitigating factor ,

If I had a pound for every time Lewis had failed to go faster and the immediate reaction is 'does Lewis have a problem'.

A prime candidate for a drinking game.

ALESI wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then "Bottas is quicker". But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to sound like he thought Hamilton's time was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

I think that was my old sig... so true isn't it.

It was something like, 'Hamilton goes .2 faster, Edwards goes nuclear in his praise, next lap Rosberg goes 0.5 faster - silence'.

I changed it because it made me look anti-Hamilton, but it wasn't, it was anti-Edwards!

I do actually really like Edwards a lot of the time. My preference for the race commentary would be Coulthard and Brundle. When I watched the F1 live in London, they were together then and it just felt like we have been missing that. Chandhok and Edwards are brilliant in practice sessions. they sound so much more interested to what is happening compared to Crofty when he's talking about pies and curries and other rubbish. Sky spend too little time of the subject during practice. Chandhok and Edwards are best line up in practice sessions in recent years IMO. I wouldn't want Ben Edwards to go. But Crofty, I really would rather he didn't commentate for anything! He is painful to listen to.

ALESI wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then "Bottas is quicker". But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to sound like he thought Hamilton's time was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

I think that was my old sig... so true isn't it.

It was something like, 'Hamilton goes .2 faster, Edwards goes nuclear in his praise, next lap Rosberg goes 0.5 faster - silence'.

I changed it because it made me look anti-Hamilton, but it wasn't, it was anti-Edwards!

From my memory, your sig was more like
"Hamilton goes faster, it was a thumping lap by him, and thrashed whole field, and moments later Rosberg goes faster, then its oh the track evolution is faster

robins13 wrote:

ALESI wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then "Bottas is quicker". But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to sound like he thought Hamilton's time was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

I think that was my old sig... so true isn't it.

It was something like, 'Hamilton goes .2 faster, Edwards goes nuclear in his praise, next lap Rosberg goes 0.5 faster - silence'.

I changed it because it made me look anti-Hamilton, but it wasn't, it was anti-Edwards!

From my memory, your sig was more like
"Hamilton goes faster, it was a thumping lap by him, and thrashed whole field, and moments later Rosberg goes faster, then its oh the track evolution is faster

I remember it being something like Ben Edwards saying after Hamilton sets the fastest lap "No one can touch him" Rosberg then goes 0.5 seconds faster. Nothing is said, the track must be improving. I think it was something like this.

mcdo wrote:

jiminwatford wrote:

mcdo wrote:I think the shield looks great

The little i saw of it i realised you couldn't see the driver at all due to reflections. I'm used to seeing which direction they're looking and what they're hands are doing

Given the choice i would say no to it. But it's not my life i'm risking

To be honest they're so enclosed as it is I haven't noticed that stuff in years. I get that detail from in-car shots and replays

I know what you mean. I didn't know how much i noticed it until today

TheGiantHogweed wrote:

robins13 wrote:

ALESI wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then "Bottas is quicker". But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to sound like he thought Hamilton's time was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

I think that was my old sig... so true isn't it.

It was something like, 'Hamilton goes .2 faster, Edwards goes nuclear in his praise, next lap Rosberg goes 0.5 faster - silence'.

I changed it because it made me look anti-Hamilton, but it wasn't, it was anti-Edwards!

From my memory, your sig was more like
"Hamilton goes faster, it was a thumping lap by him, and thrashed whole field, and moments later Rosberg goes faster, then its oh the track evolution is faster

I remember it being something like Ben Edwards saying after Hamilton sets the fastest lap "No one can touch him" Rosberg then goes 0.5 seconds faster. Nothing is said, the track must be improving. I think it was something like this.

You couldn't make this stuff up. Basically you guys are speculating about somones signature quotes without a clue what they were or the context or basically whether it was even true. Why? To prove the British media is biased towards the most successful British driver of all time? No poop Sherlock. They ain't investigative journalists. They pander to the audience, who generally are tuning in because they want to see a British driver doing well. It's not hard to find equivalents in other countries. I'm stuck watching RTL at present and they are no different when effusing about Seb.

Ben Edwards saying Bottas was fastest in that session but Hamilton's lap was compromised by his moment. That sounds like a bit of an excuse! When he saw the yellow flags, he was effectively saying that he hoped they wouldn't affect Hamilton's run. It just wasn't possible to assume that it could have been Hamilton that caused them......

In that case, many of Botta's opportunities have been compromised by him not quite being on top form. Bottas looked a little better than Hamilton in both sessions today. Hamilton may have been quicker in the 1st sector and he could well have been the fastest, but he made a mistake so that didn't come true.

Laz_T800 wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:

robins13 wrote:

ALESI wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then "Bottas is quicker". But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to sound like he thought Hamilton's time was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

I think that was my old sig... so true isn't it.

It was something like, 'Hamilton goes .2 faster, Edwards goes nuclear in his praise, next lap Rosberg goes 0.5 faster - silence'.

I changed it because it made me look anti-Hamilton, but it wasn't, it was anti-Edwards!

From my memory, your sig was more like
"Hamilton goes faster, it was a thumping lap by him, and thrashed whole field, and moments later Rosberg goes faster, then its oh the track evolution is faster

I remember it being something like Ben Edwards saying after Hamilton sets the fastest lap "No one can touch him" Rosberg then goes 0.5 seconds faster. Nothing is said, the track must be improving. I think it was something like this.

You couldn't make this stuff up. Basically you guys are speculating about somones signature quotes without a clue what they were or the context or basically whether it was even true. Why? To prove the British media is biased towards the most successful British driver of all time? No poop Sherlock. They ain't investigative journalists. They pander to the audience, who generally are tuning in because they want to see a British driver doing well. It's not hard to find equivalents in other countries. I'm stuck watching RTL at present and they are no different when effusing about Seb.

Edit, got my quote mixed up. Posted it further down.

To show how much the cars have improved, Alonso's time would have netted him 3rd on the grid last year

TheGiantHogweed wrote:

robins13 wrote:

ALESI wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then "Bottas is quicker". But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to sound like he thought Hamilton's time was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

I think that was my old sig... so true isn't it.

It was something like, 'Hamilton goes .2 faster, Edwards goes nuclear in his praise, next lap Rosberg goes 0.5 faster - silence'.

I changed it because it made me look anti-Hamilton, but it wasn't, it was anti-Edwards!

From my memory, your sig was more like
"Hamilton goes faster, it was a thumping lap by him, and thrashed whole field, and moments later Rosberg goes faster, then its oh the track evolution is faster

I remember it being something like Ben Edwards saying after Hamilton sets the fastest lap "No one can touch him" Rosberg then goes 0.5 seconds faster. Nothing is said, the track must be improving. I think it was something like this.

"...The track is obviously improving" is what I remember.

Laz_T800 wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:

robins13 wrote:

ALESI wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then "Bottas is quicker". But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to sound like he thought Hamilton's time was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

I think that was my old sig... so true isn't it.

It was something like, 'Hamilton goes .2 faster, Edwards goes nuclear in his praise, next lap Rosberg goes 0.5 faster - silence'.

I changed it because it made me look anti-Hamilton, but it wasn't, it was anti-Edwards!

From my memory, your sig was more like
"Hamilton goes faster, it was a thumping lap by him, and thrashed whole field, and moments later Rosberg goes faster, then its oh the track evolution is faster

I remember it being something like Ben Edwards saying after Hamilton sets the fastest lap "No one can touch him" Rosberg then goes 0.5 seconds faster. Nothing is said, the track must be improving. I think it was something like this.

You couldn't make this stuff up. Basically you guys are speculating about somones signature quotes without a clue what they were or the context or basically whether it was even true. Why? To prove the British media is biased towards the most successful British driver of all time? No poop Sherlock. They ain't investigative journalists. They pander to the audience, who generally are tuning in because they want to see a British driver doing well. It's not hard to find equivalents in other countries. I'm stuck watching RTL at present and they are no different when effusing about Seb.

Well, were we exactly talking about anything else? No. We may as well discuss something! It has been really quiet today in terms of talking about practice.

Looking at that replay of Massa blocking Verstappen, I'm not really sure if it is worth investigating further. Massa was trying to prepare for a fast lap, which he had just as much right to as Verstappen, but Massa did seem a little unreasonable with his moves. But he may not have expected Verstappen to go past. They both got in each others way, so I don't think it should be taken further. It is only practice.

Coulthard and Felipe junior were just playing football on Channal 4!

Lt. Drebin wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:

robins13 wrote:

ALESI wrote:

TheGiantHogweed wrote:I know we are at the British grand prix and I know the Ben Edwards on Channel 4 is British. But what he says shows he clearly respects Hamilton more than Bottas. The tone of voice of Ben Edwards when Bottas first set the fastest lap towards the beginning. He didn't sound that excited. Then when Hamilton had closed up on 2 sectors, He said "and look, he's up by a quarter of a second immediately over his team mate Bottas" Then when Bottas improves, Ben Edwards says in a sort of having to admit so voice "Bottas is improving" and then "Bottas is quicker". But it was 0.566 quicker than Hamilton's time that he seemed to sound like he thought Hamilton's time was incredible. He didn't mention the time gap. Then Bottas remained the faster of the 2 but Edwards kept bringing up that Hamilton was very close (which was true in the end) but Buttas did look to have the edge on Hamilton this session. It seems like Sky and Channel 4 don't like admitting that. I can't remember who it is on this forum who has a line from Ben Edwards comparing Hamilton and Rosberg in a very similar way at the bottom of their page. This was quite a similar thing to that. I much prefer him to Crofty, but the bias towards British drivers is too much sometimes!

I think that was my old sig... so true isn't it.

It was something like, 'Hamilton goes .2 faster, Edwards goes nuclear in his praise, next lap Rosberg goes 0.5 faster - silence'.

I changed it because it made me look anti-Hamilton, but it wasn't, it was anti-Edwards!

From my memory, your sig was more like
"Hamilton goes faster, it was a thumping lap by him, and thrashed whole field, and moments later Rosberg goes faster, then its oh the track evolution is faster

I remember it being something like Ben Edwards saying after Hamilton sets the fastest lap "No one can touch him" Rosberg then goes 0.5 seconds faster. Nothing is said, the track must be improving. I think it was something like this.

"...The track is obviously improving" is what I remember.

Yup. I definitely remember them saying the track was improving; as the track was drying. Definitely pro-Hamilton.

Amazing lap by Hamilton!.....Rosberg goes 0.5 quicker....tracks obviously improving.

Bottas could be the silent assassin this year....