We clearly are, since you keep arguing in circles and bringing up responsibility where it's irrelevant. But I'll try one more time to boil my position down to a point where hopefully you won't respond about blame again:
Verstappen should have been able to tell that doing what he did was going to lead to a collision.
Been away for a while - taking time to respond to this: no, he shouldn't. He really shouldn't. As I've said umpteen times already, if F2, GP3 drivers can go side by side through the chicane, heck if even Porsche drivers can steer their boats through there side by side, then one should be able to expect an experienced F1 driver can manage it as well.
I also think you accept the thinnest possible evidence to say Max is doing better, then ignore anything at all that implies Ricciardo is.
Nonsense to the highest degree. My position is simple, that during the time we can compare them like for like Max is doing better, until we can't compare them anymore because things keep happening to Verstappen.
I am not detracting anything from Ricciardo for what happens after that. I am just not willing to agree that Ricciardo would have beaten Verstappen if they had both raced on in an uneventful race.
Mind you, I also am not saying Verstappen would have beaten Ricciardo in all those races.
This is as impartial an opinion as it gets. It's pretty much entirely factual.
And yes, I do think the "Ricciardo is slower on purpose in the beginning" and "Ricciardo sets his car up for race instead of qualifying" opinions are huge cop outs, and are only used because they fit. I do wonder when Ricciardo started to set up his car for race instead of qualifying - somewhere towards the latter half of the 2016 season, probably?
Seriously, can't you see how convenient that is?