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Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:08 pm
by UnlikeUday
For me,

Ricciardo, Stroll, Alonso

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:24 pm
by Paolo_Lasardi
Magnussen!
Alonso!
Ricciardo, Ocon, Stroll - all achieved fantastic results but seemed to be slower than their teammates ( in contrast to KM and FA)

great drives but incredible bad luck: Massa, Hamilton

disappointing:
Vettel! That was a very, very light penalty for deliberately ramming a competitor under SC!
Mercedes
Hülkenberg

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:47 pm
by Mr-E
Basically the podium. Dan, Stroll and Bottas. Also good job Magnusson and Alonso.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:52 pm
by Flash2k11
One of the few races where I think the top 3 are also my picks for this.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:53 pm
by Black_Flag_11
Ricciardo, Stroll and Alonso.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:55 pm
by Jezza13
Stroll by a million miles.

Ricciardo and Alonso are my other two selections

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 3:56 pm
by Alienturnedhuman
Today's race was great and I really enjoyed it, but for theatre and drama rather than a sporting event. On that basis, Vettel added the most entertainment and drama, so he gets my vote.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:03 pm
by UnlikeUday
Black_Flag_11 wrote:Ricciardo, Stroll and Alonso.
I can't even count how many drivers were in contention for the podium!

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:12 pm
by TheBlackFlag
Bottas, Stroll, Ricciardo...

With an honourable mention for Bernd Maylander.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:20 pm
by j man
Ricciardo clinches it for THAT overtake at Turn 1. Utterly brilliant.

Hamilton and Stroll were very good as well.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:34 pm
by mcdo
I'll give it to the race winner. Not just for keeping it clean but also for that sweet double overtake

Notable mentions: Stroll, Hamilton, Magnussen, Alonso, Massa and Verstappen

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:52 pm
by tootsie323
Simply for putting in a genuinely good-paced and consistent performance, having been slated for so many races - Lance Stroll.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:24 pm
by zaar
Only two votes for me this sunday: Stroll (that came as a surprise to me) and Ric.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:40 pm
by Covalent
The three standing on the podium. Ricciardo for winning the race although being severely outpaced by his teammate, Bottas for that charge through the field although it was his own doing, and Stroll for finishing on the podium despite being... well, Stroll. Like Dan he was being beaten by a teammate that had a mechanical DNF.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:29 pm
by nixxxon
I dont think its the three on the podium... Ricciardo and Stroll got the podium somewhat gifted by pure luck
Bottas on the other hand, charged back to 2nd after being at one point a lap behind

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 9:54 pm
by Remmirath
I'm going with Ricciardo for that overtaking move on two cars at once, Bottas for his drive up through the field from the back (a little reluctantly considering the first lap incident, but he was great after that), and Alonso for managing to fight up well into the points for so long. Honorable mentions to Stroll and Massa.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:33 pm
by Exediron
Covalent wrote:The three standing on the podium. Ricciardo for winning the race although being severely outpaced by his teammate, Bottas for that charge through the field although it was his own doing, and Stroll for finishing on the podium despite being... well, Stroll. Like Dan he was being beaten by a teammate that had a mechanical DNF.
Stroll was literally right behind that teammate, so I'm not sure you can say for sure he would have been beaten. As for Ricciardo, how do we know he was being 'severely' outpaced? Max was only a few tenths quicker in practice, RIC crashed in quali, and in the race there wasn't time to compare.

I gave it to RIC, STR and ALO. Alonso didn't make any mistakes and safely outpaced his teammate once again, whereas almost everyone else did at least one thing I considered to be boneheaded. I considered Bottas, since I think the Kimi incident was 50/50, but that's 50 too much for me.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 11:50 pm
by Multi69
Has to be RIC. Didn't do anything wrong all day, even overcome an early issue at the start of the race. Got there most mostly merit then luck.

Lance also drove well (I criticised him from the very beginning of this season). Unfortunately, I would say that he lucked into that position more so that Daniel did. The fact he is 18 and what he's gone through this season would make him a easy pick for DOD based on emotion and fairy tale.

Great job from both of them.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 1:58 am
by oz_karter
DOTD had to be Ricciardo. It was his work passing cars between safety car periods which got him to 3rd where he would inherit the lead.

The pass on Massa & Stroll in one braking manoeuvre was a particular example.

I think Stroll's performance looks particularly good because of his rookie status and his results earlier in the season. He did drive well.

I would have voted for Bottas for his drive through the field and taking 2nd on the line, but his big mistake on the first lap deserved a much worse result. He was only in contention for the top 10, let alone the podium due to the safety car rules.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:14 am
by lamo
Everybody giving it to the podium finishers, they were all out classed by their team mates today and all got lucky to beat them with each of their team mates having a failure that allowed them to beat them.

Having said that,I still give it to Stroll because he was close enough to Massa all weekend and even beat him in qually and did great keeping his head for the podium.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:18 am
by lamo
Ricciardo was very lucky too, 5 cars would have beat him today at least. Hamilton, Verstappen for sure who had car failures. Bottas and Raikkonen who had a collision/ ran over debris. Vetel without the penalty. Massa without his engine issue and were the Force Indias ahead of him when they collided? That is the entire top 8 wiped out.

A lot of those were self induced by driver errors, but Hamilton and Verstappen did nothing wrong and would have beaten him. Probably Massa too.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:12 am
by Covalent
Exediron wrote:
Covalent wrote:The three standing on the podium. Ricciardo for winning the race although being severely outpaced by his teammate, Bottas for that charge through the field although it was his own doing, and Stroll for finishing on the podium despite being... well, Stroll. Like Dan he was being beaten by a teammate that had a mechanical DNF.
Stroll was literally right behind that teammate, so I'm not sure you can say for sure he would have been beaten. As for Ricciardo, how do we know he was being 'severely' outpaced? Max was only a few tenths quicker in practice, RIC crashed in quali, and in the race there wasn't time to compare.

I gave it to RIC, STR and ALO. Alonso didn't make any mistakes and safely outpaced his teammate once again, whereas almost everyone else did at least one thing I considered to be boneheaded. I considered Bottas, since I think the Kimi incident was 50/50, but that's 50 too much for me.
TBH I wasn't looking at any lap charts, outpaced was maybe bad wording but Verstappen was clearly ahead of Ricciardo who didn't (have time to) show any signs of being able to beat his teammate in the race. Fair point about Stroll. The Bottas mistake on lap 1 was probably one of the smaller mistakes of the race in context even though it had quite dramatic effects so that's why if I had to put the three in order this would be it:

1. Bottas
2. Stroll
3. Ricciardo

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 5:30 am
by LKS1
Difficult one, as (as others have pointed out), all those on the podium were there due to bad luck on the part of their team mates.


tootsie323 wrote:Simply for putting in a genuinely good-paced and consistent performance, having been slated for so many races - Lance Stroll.
For the same reason, I eventually voted for Stroll - whilst realising its basically a sympathy vote for a badly slated rookie!

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:17 am
by TheGiantHogweed
lamo wrote:Everybody giving it to the podium finishers, they were all out classed by their team mates today and all got lucky to beat them with each of their team mates having a failure that allowed them to beat them.

Having said that,I still give it to Stroll because he was close enough to Massa all weekend and even beat him in qually and did great keeping his head for the podium.
It is rather unfair to say Verstappen and Massa were better than their team mates when we didn't get to see all their race. Most of the race, we could see Massa was better and I do think that would have continued, but it didn't so I think it is perfectly fair to vote Stoll over Massa even though Massa probably will have done better. Verstappen and Ricciardo were just not comparable on race day. Ricciardo pitted almost instantly then soon after, Verstappen retired. Ricciardo did a brilliant job so is perfectly reasonable to vote over Verstappen for driver of the day. While Bottas made a mistake at the start, I think he couldn't have done much different to what he did and the kerb unfortunately made him jump and hit Kimi. His fault but sort of couldn't help what happened afterwards. He made a stunning recovery which to many made his drive look more impressive than Hamilton's. Which it did in a way. I expected their votes to be about equal, but overall, I don't think Hamilton did a better, more impressive drive than Bottas. I personally think his slow driving was completely unreasonable just after he had complained about the safety car that had actually bee going much faster then he chose to drive himself at this point. That is just silly. Why moan about the safety car affecting the temperature of his tyres and then choose to suddenly go far slower himself?

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 8:59 am
by mds
Exediron wrote:Alonso didn't make any mistakes and safely outpaced his teammate once again
I feel Vandoorne has been hard done by, this race. He was ahead of Alonso, doing well, with a lesser performing PU, then basically McLaren screwed his race up. After that he was doing very well again, but the SC gave all of the ones that were ahead due to McLaren's excuse of a strategy free stops with regards to Vandoorne.

With something even remotely resembling a strategy, Vandoorne would have at least finished behind Alonso with a point.

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:43 am
by mcdo
nixxxon wrote:I dont think its the three on the podium... Ricciardo and Stroll got the podium somewhat gifted by pure luck
Bottas on the other hand, charged back to 2nd after being at one point a lap behind
I would say he got a heavy dose of luck himself being gifted a lap back. Not to mention he also benefited from the same incidents as Ricciardo & Stroll

Re: Driver(s) of the Day - 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:51 am
by Zoue
I'd say Stroll, because even though he benefited from others' misfortune how else is he going to get a podium? He doesn't have the car for it. But he kept his cool under pressure and scored a very decent podium (and was extremely unlucky not to get 2nd) after enduring a lot of bad press since the beginning of the year. A maiden podium under those circumstances muct be nerve-racking, so kudos to him