pokerman wrote: Blake wrote: pokerman wrote:
Blake wrote:Fine... then let the teams all have their own profits from branded items rather than having divided amongst all teams. Let the teams negotiate with each venue for a share if revenue based on their fan base in attendance. Lets face it some teams mean more to F1 than do others. Some bring more money and fans into the sport... and a small handful of teams have made F1 into the popular sport that is today...
You cant deny their impact... well i guess you can, but it would be s bit foolish.
So let the circuits pay Ferrari instead, anyway to keep Ferrari's financial advantage.
Yeah, whatever you say, poker. Ignore the whole process of the discussion (you do that well).
The point is, and I repeat it again... that some teams bring more to the sport than do others, some teams have been a much bigger part in building the sport over decades, some teams have a greater fan base than do others, meaning the sport benefits more because of them. Of course, you know all that, don't you?
It must have really shook you up to see it posted that we actually agreed on something.... couldn't have that now could you?
I read what you said and it all comes down to Ferrari being paid what amounts to appearance money because they are far bigger than all the other teams who are basically just making up the numbers, that's how it comes across.
Ferrari being who they are can attract big sponsors, can make more money through merchandising because of their bigger fan base, that should be enough, I don't see why they should be paid more than the other teams just for turning up by either Liberty Media or the circuits themselves, how is that fair in sporting terms?
The point being discussed was the desire by some to take away the historical money from the teams. I said "fine" and then pointed out that they could then let the teams have all the revenue earned by their labeled promotional materials, after all, why should they have to share it? As for the idea of the teams negotiating with tracks for what would basically be "appearance money", I am not advocating it actually, but one could make the case. However, the way it is with the historical money and the bonus money being paid to the teams, the sharing of F1 related promotionl money, that is in effect accounted for.
Again... that money was not given to those teams out of some sense of "love' by the likes of bernie, it is because it was to his/F1's benefit to do so... whether it was for political purposes, or in recognition of what some teams bring to the sport. They pay the money, because it is of value to them. It really is that simple.
Maybe Liberty will end the bonuses, maybe they won't, only time will tell. I know they are suggesting that they don't like it, but in the end??? They too are a business.