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Yep, definitely a standing start mid-race.ALESI wrote:It's raining now apparently. But then it always rains just BEFORE a Grand Prix...
Now, as I remember, if the race starts under the SC we get a grid when it's dried up - yes? What about mid race SC's, I know there was talk of a grid, but I think it was changed back again.... anyone remember?
I'll believe it when I see it though... like all these things.MistaVega23 wrote:Yep, definitely a standing start mid-race.ALESI wrote:It's raining now apparently. But then it always rains just BEFORE a Grand Prix...
Now, as I remember, if the race starts under the SC we get a grid when it's dried up - yes? What about mid race SC's, I know there was talk of a grid, but I think it was changed back again.... anyone remember?
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If Hamilton wins and Vettel comes second who would lead the championship?Lt. Drebin wrote:Fun fact: Hamilton was last time leader in championship standings 201 days ago. Will it change this weekend?
I could be wrong but like qualifying it's normally who got it first, so in this instance i believe Vertel would retain the leadBlack_Flag_11 wrote:If Hamilton wins and Vettel comes second who would lead the championship?Lt. Drebin wrote:Fun fact: Hamilton was last time leader in championship standings 201 days ago. Will it change this weekend?
They would both have 1 win, 1 second place and 43 points. Would it come down to qualifying/fastest lap or just alphabetical order?
I think the same.Zoue wrote:I could be wrong but like qualifying it's normally who got it first, so in this instance i believe Vertel would retain the leadBlack_Flag_11 wrote:If Hamilton wins and Vettel comes second who would lead the championship?Lt. Drebin wrote:Fun fact: Hamilton was last time leader in championship standings 201 days ago. Will it change this weekend?
They would both have 1 win, 1 second place and 43 points. Would it come down to qualifying/fastest lap or just alphabetical order?
I don't think Hamilton will have to do much in the way of overtaking, tbh. He'll be leading from the front and the Merc power means they'll have a bigger advantage than they did in Australia. Don't see Vettel being able to mount a significant challenge hereHerb Tarlik wrote:Shanghai is a serious power track, with an incredibly long back straight and a good two places where passing very possible. I'm hoping that Hamilton doesnt feel as hapless as he did last race.
I like Your presumption!Zoue wrote:I don't think Hamilton will have to do much in the way of overtaking, tbh. He'll be leading from the front and the Merc power means they'll have a bigger advantage than they did in Australia. Don't see Vettel being able to mount a significant challenge hereHerb Tarlik wrote:Shanghai is a serious power track, with an incredibly long back straight and a good two places where passing very possible. I'm hoping that Hamilton doesnt feel as hapless as he did last race.
Before Melbourne, Vettel last led the standings 1219 days ago. I think he'll want to keep this one going!Lt. Drebin wrote:Fun fact: Hamilton was last time leader in championship standings 201 days ago. Will it change this weekend?
I second that!MistaVega23 wrote:Before Melbourne, Vettel last led the standings 1219 days ago. I think he'll want to keep this one going!Lt. Drebin wrote:Fun fact: Hamilton was last time leader in championship standings 201 days ago. Will it change this weekend?
I think there's a solid argument to be made that Ferrari have caught Mercedes in power terms after what we saw in Melbourne. Maybe a bit early yet but they ran a larger rear wing but still matched Mercedes speed through the traps so there is some serious grunt there.Zoue wrote:I don't think Hamilton will have to do much in the way of overtaking, tbh. He'll be leading from the front and the Merc power means they'll have a bigger advantage than they did in Australia. Don't see Vettel being able to mount a significant challenge hereHerb Tarlik wrote:Shanghai is a serious power track, with an incredibly long back straight and a good two places where passing very possible. I'm hoping that Hamilton doesnt feel as hapless as he did last race.
It's certainly possible that Ferrari were running more downforce in Australia than Mercedes. This race is a good data point and I think it will probably take a couple of more races to really get a sense for how the two cars stack up to each other.UnlikeUday wrote:I like Your presumption!Zoue wrote:I don't think Hamilton will have to do much in the way of overtaking, tbh. He'll be leading from the front and the Merc power means they'll have a bigger advantage than they did in Australia. Don't see Vettel being able to mount a significant challenge hereHerb Tarlik wrote:Shanghai is a serious power track, with an incredibly long back straight and a good two places where passing very possible. I'm hoping that Hamilton doesnt feel as hapless as he did last race.
But if Ferrari has better handling, then Vettel should have edge in the 1st 2 sectors & Hamilton would in the 3rd sector. Ferrari aren't that behind when it comes to engine power. But yeah, this race will give us a more definite answer regarding the pecking order & to be more specific, the difference between Mercedes & Ferrari (teams)!
If it rains, You could also bring the Red Bull duo in the frame for a podium.
The ferrari engine has improved a lot. No doubt. Even the Haas car has looked faster than any of the mercedes customer teams in qualifying.Lotus49 wrote:I think there's a solid argument to be made that Ferrari have caught Mercedes in power terms after what we saw in Melbourne. Maybe a bit early yet but they ran a larger rear wing but still matched Mercedes speed through the traps so there is some serious grunt there.Zoue wrote:I don't think Hamilton will have to do much in the way of overtaking, tbh. He'll be leading from the front and the Merc power means they'll have a bigger advantage than they did in Australia. Don't see Vettel being able to mount a significant challenge hereHerb Tarlik wrote:Shanghai is a serious power track, with an incredibly long back straight and a good two places where passing very possible. I'm hoping that Hamilton doesnt feel as hapless as he did last race.
They're now getting 50s of ERS support as well which must be getting close to Mercedes (I've no idea what they are getting, could even be less for all I know) and Seb was told very early that fuel was no longer a problem which is encouraging.
I'd still like to see a few more races before being confident either way and it will be interesting to see their relative performance here on that straight to see if Mercedes still hold an advantage in terms of top end performance. That really showed up more in Baku though so will be interesting when we get there too.
Yeah Guenther Steiner has been praising the PU quite a bit since testing. They've really had a great winter in that department and the car seems to be working beautifully as well. The whole package looks spot on.kleefton wrote:The ferrari engine has improved a lot. No doubt. Even the Haas car has looked faster than any of the mercedes customer teams in qualifying.Lotus49 wrote:I think there's a solid argument to be made that Ferrari have caught Mercedes in power terms after what we saw in Melbourne. Maybe a bit early yet but they ran a larger rear wing but still matched Mercedes speed through the traps so there is some serious grunt there.Zoue wrote:I don't think Hamilton will have to do much in the way of overtaking, tbh. He'll be leading from the front and the Merc power means they'll have a bigger advantage than they did in Australia. Don't see Vettel being able to mount a significant challenge hereHerb Tarlik wrote:Shanghai is a serious power track, with an incredibly long back straight and a good two places where passing very possible. I'm hoping that Hamilton doesnt feel as hapless as he did last race.
They're now getting 50s of ERS support as well which must be getting close to Mercedes (I've no idea what they are getting, could even be less for all I know) and Seb was told very early that fuel was no longer a problem which is encouraging.
I'd still like to see a few more races before being confident either way and it will be interesting to see their relative performance here on that straight to see if Mercedes still hold an advantage in terms of top end performance. That really showed up more in Baku though so will be interesting when we get there too.
I also think the ferrari is the better car overall so i expect that to be clearer in China.
good test to see how good the ferrari engine is. My guess is its the new engine that has enabled them to catch up mercedes. More power and economy and you can run more downforce. which is one of the main reasons merc have been so good. obviously they have a good car in general but it is a massive advantage when you can run the amount of downforce they have in the past 3 seasons and not lose out down the straights.Herb Tarlik wrote:Shanghai is a serious power track, with an incredibly long back straight and a good two places where passing very possible. I'm hoping that Hamilton doesnt feel as hapless as he did last race.
It looks like more of a fog issue than a storm issue, the medical helicopter has to be able to travel to the hospital whereas the camera helicopters can stay within a closed airspace.mikeyg123 wrote:Also, is it somewhat undermined when we have the heli camera flying about and can see at least two other helicopters in the distance?
I'm worried about the weekend, weather wise and also by running wise if both practice sessions get scrapped.mikeyg123 wrote:Also, is it somewhat undermined when we have the heli camera flying about and can see at least two other helicopters in the distance?
LBET wrote:Bloody Shame. Don't they have IFR capabilities on the medical helos over there? What happens if it rains during the race or, God forbid, during an emergency medical transport? Doe's one land on a roadway and wait for an ambulance.
Edit: I forgot, it's 2017 so we're talking about dual engine Helos with IFR with GPS support. If the camera copter can fly the medi-copter should be good no?
Formula 1 teams will meet with the FIA today to discuss bringing the Chinese Grand Prix forward to Saturday to avoid the risk of it being cancelled because of bad weather.
This seems sensible seeing as they cannot really delay the race until Monday because that won't leave enough time for the freight to get to Bahrain.Covalent wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... chinese-gpFormula 1 teams will meet with the FIA today to discuss bringing the Chinese Grand Prix forward to Saturday to avoid the risk of it being cancelled because of bad weather.
