Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Forum rules
Please read the forum rules
Jenson's Understeer
Posts: 3637
Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:47 pm

Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by Jenson's Understeer »

It has been announced that Felipe Massa and Claire Williams will be holding a press conference at 1:45 (local time, so 12:45 GMT) this afternoon. Nothing has been said about why, but it would seem like there are three logical options:

a) Massa and Williams will be announcing he's staying with the Grove-based team for 2017.
b) Massa and Williams will be announcing he's leaving Williams at the end of 2016.
c) Massa will be announcing he's retiring from F1 at the end of 2016.

What do we think? I'm sort of expecting him to announce he's retiring from F1, although if that's the case, is Claire Williams' involvement in the press conference perhaps a little strange?

Edit: Massa has now confirmed that 2016 will be his last racing in F1. (I've updated the thread title accordingly)
Last edited by Jenson's Understeer on Thu Sep 01, 2016 11:49 am, edited 1 time in total.
Pick 10 | 1st x3, 2nd x5, 3rd x8
'20: 12th | '19: 11th | '18: 5th | '17: 6th | '16: 8th | '15: 2nd | '14: 15th | '13: 17th | '12: 11th

User avatar
MistaVega23
Posts: 1964
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:29 am

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by MistaVega23 »

Retirement. Button can then go back to where it all began and Vandoorne can partner up with Fred.
#KeepFightingMichael

User avatar
Jezza13
Posts: 2444
Joined: Mon May 31, 2010 10:02 am
Location: Far side of Koozebane

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by Jezza13 »

MistaVega23 wrote:Retirement.
+1
Only took 7 yrs, 5 mths & 21 days.

Cooper, Arrows, Brabham, Ligier, Lotus, Tyrrell, Minardi, McLaren, Sauber, Williams,

Remember the garagista's. The heart & soul of F1. They raced to race.

2017 WCC CPTTC - Jalopy Racing (Herb & Me)

Zoue
Posts: 25158
Joined: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:39 am

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by Zoue »

MistaVega23 wrote:Retirement. Button can then go back to where it all began and Vandoorne can partner up with Fred.
Agree it's probably retirement, although I'm also reasonably certain I read recently that Button has ruled out a return to Williams

ALESI
Posts: 2418
Joined: Mon Mar 24, 2003 1:36 pm

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by ALESI »

I hope not, I really like Massa.. he was robbed in 2008. Robbed I say!
Shoot999: "And anyone who puts a Y on the end of his name as a nickname should be punched in the face repeatedly."

User avatar
UnlikeUday
Posts: 8674
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:53 pm
Location: Mumbai, India

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by UnlikeUday »

Maybe to express their displeasure over Force India now being 4th in WCC!
Feel The Fourth

mac_d
Posts: 4231
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:41 pm

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by mac_d »

Retirement seems most likely. Not sure why Williams would have a major representative there though. Claire Williams' presence makes me think it could be a contract but I just don't imagine it can not be retirement.

I don't see the second option of them agreeing to part ways but Felipe not retiring. Would they call a conference for that? I feel like they'd rather press-release that so as to avoid the question of "So Claire, Felipe is too crap then?" or similar.
Last edited by mac_d on Thu Sep 01, 2016 10:56 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
James14
Posts: 1098
Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:53 pm
Location: Ireland

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by James14 »

I'd guess it is to announce a deal extension.
If he was retiring I'd doubt there would be a need to have Claire Williams present.

Jenson's Understeer
Posts: 3637
Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:47 pm

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by Jenson's Understeer »

Her presence is confusing me a little, too. Even if he were doing it through the team, rather than holding his own press conference, why have Claire Williams there? Unless she is just there to praise him/address Williams' driver situation rather than holding her own press conference on the subject. Yet at the same time all the speculation has been that he would be, at the very least, leaving Williams come the end of the year.
Pick 10 | 1st x3, 2nd x5, 3rd x8
'20: 12th | '19: 11th | '18: 5th | '17: 6th | '16: 8th | '15: 2nd | '14: 15th | '13: 17th | '12: 11th

mac_d
Posts: 4231
Joined: Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:41 pm

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by mac_d »

Surely they wouldn't double up and announce his replacement if it is retirement? They'd give Massa the limelight wouldn't they? I'm really starting to lean toward it being a year, or at most 2, extension with the Deputy TP being present.

When others have announced retirements did they call the press conference alone or with the team boss? I can't recall. Schumi I think just had a press release after the race rather than calling a press conference (Edit - The Monza 2006 one, I'm not sure about his Mercedes one).

User avatar
Covalent
Posts: 10192
Joined: Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:07 pm

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by Covalent »

Maybe Claire is there because Massa is retiring only from his driving duties, and will take up another role at Williams?

Jenson's Understeer
Posts: 3637
Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:47 pm

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by Jenson's Understeer »

Covalent wrote:Maybe Claire is there because Massa is retiring only from his driving duties, and will take up another role at Williams?
I wondered that myself. Given his history as a test driver he could be a valuable addition if he were to become their test/development driver. Particularly if they were going to end up fielding Lance Stroll as one of their drivers next year.
Pick 10 | 1st x3, 2nd x5, 3rd x8
'20: 12th | '19: 11th | '18: 5th | '17: 6th | '16: 8th | '15: 2nd | '14: 15th | '13: 17th | '12: 11th

mikeyg123
Posts: 18365
Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:13 pm

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by mikeyg123 »

I a bit worried they are going to announce a contract extension. Teams have been very cautious about changing drivers in recent years. A lot seem to be taking a, better the devil you know, attitude.

Jenson's Understeer
Posts: 3637
Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:47 pm

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by Jenson's Understeer »

Apparently his family are in the front row so that would point heavily towards retirement.
Pick 10 | 1st x3, 2nd x5, 3rd x8
'20: 12th | '19: 11th | '18: 5th | '17: 6th | '16: 8th | '15: 2nd | '14: 15th | '13: 17th | '12: 11th

User avatar
MistaVega23
Posts: 1964
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:29 am

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by MistaVega23 »

I've just checked SSF1 and they have a re-run of the Spa GP, anyone know if it's being broadcast?
#KeepFightingMichael


mikeyg123
Posts: 18365
Joined: Sat Jan 28, 2012 4:13 pm

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by mikeyg123 »

Well there we are.

35 is young to actually officially announce retirement.

Jenson's Understeer
Posts: 3637
Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:47 pm

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by Jenson's Understeer »

A shame to see him retire but I think it was pretty clear he wasn't going to get a better seat for 2017, and if Williams are looking elsewhere then it's the only sensible decision to make. I've got a funny feeling he'll turn up in Formula E perhaps as soon as 2017. I'll always look back on 2008 and think he should've won the WDC that year; as a Massa fan it still stings a little that he got *that* close and still didn't win it. Unfortunate that a lot of the later part of his time in F1 will either be remembered for the wrong reasons (being the #2 to Alonso) or simply written off as completely forgettable, but such is life.
Pick 10 | 1st x3, 2nd x5, 3rd x8
'20: 12th | '19: 11th | '18: 5th | '17: 6th | '16: 8th | '15: 2nd | '14: 15th | '13: 17th | '12: 11th

User avatar
UnlikeUday
Posts: 8674
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:53 pm
Location: Mumbai, India

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by UnlikeUday »

A right decision. Anyway, this decision doesn't diminish my appreciation that he has contributed to F1. One of the sweetest drivers in the paddock.
Feel The Fourth

User avatar
GPG
Posts: 358
Joined: Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:41 pm

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by GPG »

It's always sad to see a familiar, long-serving figure in the sport retire - Yet in the case of Felipe Massa I can fully understand. He didn't exactly set the world on fire this season and I don't think there were many teams interested in his services, and maybe the teams that were couldn't meet Massa's competitive standards.

He had a good career, extracted a lot out of his talent. Now on to the next chapter, I hope he does well.

Now the follow-up question: Who will take his seat at Williams?
PF1 Pick 10 Competition: 10th (2014); 8th (2015)

PF1 Pick 3 Competition: 1st (2014); 1st (2015)

User avatar
Sevenfest
Posts: 1252
Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:04 am

Re: Massa press conference in Monza this afternoon

Post by Sevenfest »

UnlikeUday wrote:
A right decision. Anyway, this decision doesn't diminish my appreciation that he has contributed to F1. One of the sweetest drivers in the paddock.
Agreed. I was hoping he'd announce retirement before the end of the season so he can have a good send off in Brazil. He can leave the sport on his own terms with his head held high.

owenmahamilton
Posts: 746
Joined: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:29 am

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by owenmahamilton »

GPG wrote:It's always sad to see a familiar, long-serving figure in the sport retire - Yet in the case of Felipe Massa I can fully understand. He didn't exactly set the world on fire this season and I don't think there were many teams interested in his services, and maybe the teams that were couldn't meet Massa's competitive standards.

He had a good career, extracted a lot out of his talent. Now on to the next chapter, I hope he does well.

Now the follow-up question: Who will take his seat at Williams?
I'd be surprised if they pick Stroll, don't think he's got enough experience, hopefully Jenson for at least one year, maybe two.

Jenson's Understeer
Posts: 3637
Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:47 pm

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by Jenson's Understeer »

GPG wrote:Now the follow-up question: Who will take his seat at Williams?
Both SkySports and Autosport have mentioned Felipe Nasr's name should Button not want that seat, Sergio Perez too. And Lance Stroll probably remains in the mix.
Pick 10 | 1st x3, 2nd x5, 3rd x8
'20: 12th | '19: 11th | '18: 5th | '17: 6th | '16: 8th | '15: 2nd | '14: 15th | '13: 17th | '12: 11th

User avatar
GPG
Posts: 358
Joined: Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:41 pm

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by GPG »

Jenson's Understeer wrote:
GPG wrote:Now the follow-up question: Who will take his seat at Williams?
Both SkySports and Autosport have mentioned Felipe Nasr's name should Button not want that seat, Sergio Perez too. And Lance Stroll probably remains in the mix.
I think both Jenson Button as Sergio Perez would be good successors. Felipe Nasr comes as a surprise to me, although I can understand that Williams want to retain their Brazilian sponsors.
PF1 Pick 10 Competition: 10th (2014); 8th (2015)

PF1 Pick 3 Competition: 1st (2014); 1st (2015)

Museli
Posts: 260
Joined: Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:15 pm

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by Museli »

I hear from a very reliable source that it is Jenson seat if he wants it. With such broad marketing appeal Williams are apparently desperate to sign him - a two year deal has been tabled to boot.

User avatar
mcdo
Posts: 10289
Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:33 pm
Location: Ireland

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by mcdo »

Massa got a new lease of life at Williams. I think both driver and team found each other at the right time. That time has passed now and it's time for something fresh for both sides

I had a feeling he was going to work his way into a Renault seat. And who knows how that would have gone. But by bowing out now Felipe can leave the sport with his head held high
I don't rely entirely on God
ImageImage
I rely on Prost

chetan_rao
Posts: 1246
Joined: Fri Jun 19, 2009 7:39 am

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by chetan_rao »

Had his off moments but ultimately a good man and a good racer. He's had his share of detractors, but nobody flukes into 11 wins & 40+ podiums so credit where it's due.

Would've been lovely if he'd actually won the title in 2008, but what actually sealed my respect for the man was his reaction on the podium at Sau Paulo 2008 after realizing what he'd lost. A true gentleman and worthy of any racing fan's respect.
Last edited by chetan_rao on Thu Sep 01, 2016 1:51 pm, edited 3 times in total.

User avatar
Blackhander
Posts: 1849
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:22 am
Location: Brisbane, Australia

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by Blackhander »

A little sad to see him go but not at all surprising either, glad that he had his time in Williams as he's been a completely different driver these last few years and actually seemed HAPPY!

As for Williams, they could do a lot worse than Kvyat
Last edited by Blackhander on Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
PF1 Pick 10 Competition
Podiums: 1st Spa '16, 1st Bahrain '15, 1st China '14, 1st Malaysia '14
Championship position 2014: 13th | | 2015: 10th (heading the right way)
PF1 Autosport GP Predictor 2014: Second 2015: Second

User avatar
James14
Posts: 1098
Joined: Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:53 pm
Location: Ireland

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by James14 »

I wish him well, he has served the sport well. As mentioned it was a pity about 2008.

pendulumeffect
Posts: 415
Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:13 pm

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by pendulumeffect »

Just a shame for him that he had that unsafe release at Singapore in 2008. That cost him a World Title. I think Jenson Button is happy he got at least one WDC. Most drivers only get 1 shot at being champ.

But on the plus side he survived a spring to the helmet and the resulting crash along with many tangles with Lewis Hamilton. It would have been amusing to see them as team mates for one season. I hope they have genuinely put their differences aside.

Massa has outshone most drivers since 2000 and not many drivers can claim to have won 11 GPs (correct me if I am wrong?). I think he can go with his head held high after helping Williams to third in the constructors.

User avatar
Lt. Drebin
Posts: 4796
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:51 am

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by Lt. Drebin »

One of the most lovable personalities. Shame for the 2008 (title lost in the last corner), 2009 (big injury), 2010 (XXX is faster than you), and so on. Still had a couple of well fought podiums in Williams, to redeem himself rightly. Never got trashed by Bottas, they were interchangeably faster then the other guy, the differences were minimal. Big carrier, vice-champ, 11 victories!

Goodbye Felipe! You will be missed!
The end is near

User avatar
Lt. Drebin
Posts: 4796
Joined: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:51 am

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by Lt. Drebin »

pendulumeffect wrote:Just a shame for him that he had that unsafe release at Singapore in 2008.
Plus at the Hungarian GP, he retired 3 laps to go from the safe lead. He overtook both Mclarens from 3rd on the grid with spectacular move and never got challenged for the win. Shame!
The end is near

User avatar
Lotus49
Posts: 5273
Joined: Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:36 pm

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by Lotus49 »

I really hope he can somehow make the podium either here or in Brazil, would be a nice sight.
"Clark came through at the end of the first lap so far ahead that we in the pits were convinced that the rest of the field must have been wiped out in an accident."
-Eddie Dennis, describing the dominance of Jim Clark in the Lotus 49 at Spa 1967

User avatar
nixxxon
Posts: 3767
Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:08 pm

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by nixxxon »

Seems a very obvious retirement.

I guess Button will take his seat at Williams.
Last edited by nixxxon on Thu Sep 01, 2016 12:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Amon
Posts: 3479
Joined: Wed Jun 04, 2003 6:16 pm
Location: Belgium

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by Amon »

Well the right decision for him. I was never a fan of him and yeah he did come close in 2008 but I felt that championship was more or less decided by which team/driver made the least mistakes rather than who drove best.

Anyway wish him luck in whatever he is going to do next.

Who to take his seat, if not Button I hope for either Perez or Vandoorne. They seriously consider Nasr???
F1 fan since 1989
Image

User avatar
ozrevhead
Posts: 349
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2003 6:03 am

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by ozrevhead »

Sad to see Massa go even though its probably right

I don't think Perez should leave FInda when they are improving all the time and look better than Williams!

Button is their no1. choice BUT does he want to leave McLaren and does Ron want him to?
Blackhander wrote:A little sad to see him go but not at all surprising either, glad that he had his time in Williams as he's been a completely different driver these last few years and actually seemed HAPPY!

As for Williams, they could do a lot worse than Kvyat
I agree 100%

User avatar
theferret
Posts: 714
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:37 am
Location: South London

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by theferret »

Amon wrote:Well the right decision for him. I was never a fan of him and yeah he did come close in 2008 but I felt that championship was more or less decided by which team/driver made the least mistakes rather than who drove best.

Anyway wish him luck in whatever he is going to do next.

Who to take his seat, if not Button I hope for either Perez or Vandoorne. They seriously consider Nasr???
Big sponsorship money :(
NH#1: Quick Nick Heidfeld
NH#2: HULK SMASH

PF1 Pick 10 Podiums: 6 (2nd IND '11; 1st JPN '12; 1st MCO '13; 3rd DEU '16; 3rd USA '16, 3rd MEX '16)

User avatar
mcdo
Posts: 10289
Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:33 pm
Location: Ireland

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by mcdo »

Lt. Drebin wrote:
pendulumeffect wrote:Just a shame for him that he had that unsafe release at Singapore in 2008.
Plus at the Hungarian GP, he retired 3 laps to go from the safe lead. He overtook both Mclarens from 3rd on the grid with spectacular move and never got challenged for the win. Shame!
The drive of his life IMO
I don't rely entirely on God
ImageImage
I rely on Prost

sandman1347
Posts: 6977
Joined: Sun May 25, 2008 7:55 pm

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by sandman1347 »

I'll admit I was never a big fan of Massa. I felt he often caused accidents with unreasonable defending and would then act as though he was completely innocent. I do, however, respect Massa's ability as a driver; especially his quickness over a single lap. He dominated Raikkonen in qualifying (even during Kimi's WDC season) and I think he is most instrumental in really changing the way fans regard the top drivers in the sport.

No one saw it coming when he really gained the upper hand in that matchup with Kimi and it was perhaps the biggest upset among teammates we've seen in recent years. I think it was hard on him when Alonso was signed and he was essentially pushed back into the same position that he was in with Michael. That really halted the momentum in his career and he never really recovered from that.

I was glad to see him perform admirably at Williams these last couple of years and end his career on a positive note. His 2008 season was very memorable and the title went down to the last lap of the season. It's just too bad that turned out to be his last title shot.

User avatar
Flash2k11
Posts: 2940
Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:06 pm
Location: England
Contact:

Re: Felipe Massa to retire from F1 after 2016

Post by Flash2k11 »

Always had a soft spot for Massa, I dont think anyone will ever get as close to winning a WDC without actually doing it as he did. Got absolutely shat on by Ferrari in a hideous fashion yet by and large took it with dignity and I think that reflects well on him as a man.

Hope he can do something special in Brazil (<_< an already 4 time WDC Hamilton suddenly going slowly with a lap to go with Massa in 2nd would be fun)
2018 Pick 10 Champion

Post Reply