2016 British Grand Prix Race Thread

mmi16 · Post by **mmi16** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:55 am

Hamilton_Jar wrote:
HS Thompson wrote:OFFICIAL: SAFETY CAR START!

SAFETY PREVAILS OVER SPORTS
What about Moto GP, they race in much worse conditions going 3 or 4 bikes side by side round corners

It is a known fact the Moto GP riders don't have brains and can't be killed.

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:55 am

pokerman wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
pokerman wrote:SC start is good for Hamilton
And rubbish for the sport.
It's only rubbish if it stays out too long, I perfectly understand the safety aspect for the start itself if the conditions are bad, who wants to see cars crashing?

Who wants to see drivers tested in challenging conditions?

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:56 am

So now Wimbledon now?

flyboy10 · Post by **flyboy10** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:56 am

But they're going to use it none the less.

HS Thompson · Post by **HS Thompson** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:56 am

Oasis wrote:OMG what happened to this sport??

As we have seen in almost every thread on the topic, there are NO concessions to safety. None. Zero. Whatever makes the sport safer MUST take precedence over competition.

This is the result of this attitude. You see it every time. No concession to safety.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:56 am

flyboy10 wrote:Will start on a wet track with no rain so no need for the safety car.

SC start has been announced

ALESI · Post by **ALESI** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:56 am

pokerman wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
pokerman wrote:SC start is good for Hamilton
And rubbish for the sport.
It's only rubbish if it stays out too long, I perfectly understand the safety aspect for the start itself if the conditions are bad, who wants to see cars crashing?

No one, we do however want to see overtaking and that generally happens at the start.

ALESI · Post by **ALESI** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:56 am

At Monaco yes I get it, but here?

nixxxon · Post by **nixxxon** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:57 am

ALESI wrote:
nixxxon wrote:Newey analizing the McLaren lol
And chuckling, probably...

Well, not sure about that considering that Prodromou was his right hand for a long time.

ALESI · Post by **ALESI** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:57 am

Rosberg might as well tuck in behind and settle for second.

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:57 am

TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Hamilton_Jar wrote:
TheGiantHogweed wrote:
Hamilton_Jar wrote:Webber and DC are much better to watch than Hill and Herbert. Webber was getting soaked.
I think the channel 4 pre race coverage is way better than sky. The coverage after the race on channel 4 is also better IMO.
Yeah I agree with you. I watch sky because I have too, when C4 is on that's the channel for me. Really enjoy listening to DC and Webber.
A real shame that Sky is taking over in 2019. I think their coverage is no better than Channel 4 overall which I think is pretty poor considering how much they make you pay!

Never know they might start losing the coverage again. Sky have started losing some of the football.

HS Thompson · Post by **HS Thompson** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:57 am

Martin Brundle, not in tune with the need for MAXIMUM safety. He doesnt want a SC start. Why doesnt he care about the drivers?

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:58 am

Channel 4 coverage still seem to be under the impression there won't be a SC start. Kind of funny. The poor commentators are pumped over what they think could be an amazing start to the race.

OK, they realise now.

Oasis · Post by **Oasis** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:58 am

HS Thompson wrote:
Oasis wrote:OMG what happened to this sport??
As we have seen in almost every thread on the topic, there are NO concessions to safety. None. Zero. Whatever makes the sport safer MUST take precedence over competition.

This is the result of this attitude. You see it every time. No concession to safety.

If this really is the case, why on earth are they still racing? Cancel all races will be the safest thing to do

Black_Flag_11 · Post by **Black_Flag_11** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:58 am

At what point can we rename full wet tyres "safety car tyres"?

Randine · Post by **Randine** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:59 am

pokerman wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
pokerman wrote:SC start is good for Hamilton
And rubbish for the sport.
It's only rubbish if it stays out too long, I perfectly understand the safety aspect for the start itself if the conditions are bad, who wants to see cars crashing?

I want to see a few cars crash

Seriously though, the blue sky is out. No safety car needed. Why can't they swap to a normal start now...

Asphalt_World · Post by **Asphalt_World** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:59 am

pokerman wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
pokerman wrote:SC start is good for Hamilton
And rubbish for the sport.
It's only rubbish if it stays out too long, I perfectly understand the safety aspect for the start itself if the conditions are bad, who wants to see cars crashing?

It's rubbish imo if they don't have to start the race in wet from a standing start. One lap behind the safety cars spoils it.

Now they have less control over clutch settings, it would really show who makes a great start or not.

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:59 am

How many laps will the safety car be out for? Too many for a fact. 7 or 8 maybe

HS Thompson · Post by **HS Thompson** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:59 am

Oasis wrote:
HS Thompson wrote:
Oasis wrote:OMG what happened to this sport??
As we have seen in almost every thread on the topic, there are NO concessions to safety. None. Zero. Whatever makes the sport safer MUST take precedence over competition.

This is the result of this attitude. You see it every time. No concession to safety.
If this really is the case, why on earth are they still racing? Cancel all races will be the safest thing to do

I've asked this question in the past.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 11:59 am

These conditions are good news for Red Bull, Alonso, Hulk & Button.

HS Thompson · Post by **HS Thompson** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:00 pm

Black_Flag_11 wrote:At what point can we rename full wet tyres "safety car tyres"?

Well said.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:00 pm

mikeyg123 wrote:
pokerman wrote:
Asphalt_World wrote:
pokerman wrote:SC start is good for Hamilton
And rubbish for the sport.
It's only rubbish if it stays out too long, I perfectly understand the safety aspect for the start itself if the conditions are bad, who wants to see cars crashing?
Who wants to see drivers tested in challenging conditions?

I think it's sensible however I would question if it's needed today, is the track wet enough?

HS Thompson · Post by **HS Thompson** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:01 pm

Prepare for SAFETY CAR action!!! The cars are moving now!

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:01 pm

I believe safety car will be in soon.

neek · Post by **neek** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:01 pm

Maybe the drivers should vote on the s/c start - give them a little thump-up / thump-down button on the steering wheel

Covalent · Post by **Covalent** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:01 pm

SC start is good for anyone who is rubbish at starting, bad for everyone else, including the viewers.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:01 pm

UnlikeUday wrote:So now Wimbledon now?

They have a roof

HS Thompson · Post by **HS Thompson** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:02 pm

And Hammy leads lap 1!!!! A great start for Lewis. Glad to see his starts are sorted out now.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:03 pm

This is were it's rubbish, waiting for the track to dry before they race

neek · Post by **neek** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:03 pm

Merc 1,2,3

Jezza13 · Post by **Jezza13** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:03 pm

How is Bernie ever going to get his sprinkler idea up and going if they drag out a safety car every time a track gets wet ?

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:04 pm

This is just absurd. Can't believe they are doing another lap. Will it be in before lap 10?

jimmyj · Post by **jimmyj** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:04 pm

Has F1 ever used jet dryers in the past? I don't recall it but am curious.

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:04 pm

Thrilling start to the race. This is what we signed up for.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:04 pm

This race is prone to get super where cars will have crossover times to change to intermediates & then slicks.

ALESI · Post by **ALESI** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:04 pm

Why don't they drive around until it's safe then line up on the grid and have a proper start?

HS Thompson · Post by **HS Thompson** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:05 pm

Expect a lot more SC laps. All standing water has to be gone before the SC comes in.

pokerman · Post by **pokerman** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:05 pm

Hamilton complaining of acquaplaning, the cars are not set up for full wet conditions

SmoothRide · Post by **SmoothRide** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:05 pm

nixxxon wrote:British weather mode ON

Booooo for a SC start....

That takes half the fun out of the race right there. 10% of it will be spent pacing behind the safety car. I understand safety concerns, but a line has to be drawn somewhere. These drivers are supposed to be the best at what they do and they should be able to handle changeable conditions. Especially as the goalposts are continuously being moved. It used to be that only a monsoon could cause some disruption in the race whereas we've slowly gotten to a situation where a few raindrops and a puddle are deemed off limits for racing.

I've been watching F1 less and less of late. Not out of any conscious decision, but simply because there is not much actual racing happening. Drivers are spending time saving tires, fuel, battling electronic glitches, pacing behind safety car, and only very occasionally putting some fast laps.

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:05 pm

mikeyg123 wrote:This is just absurd. Can't believe they are doing another lap. Will it be in before lap 10?

Unlikely, this is where f1 is a joke