Austrian GP Qualifying and Race Thread

Quark · Post by **Quark** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:52 am

Seb and Rosberg will incur a five-place grid penalty for changing their gearboxes but it will be interesting to see where they qualify and finish in the race.

Yellowbin74 · Post by **Yellowbin74** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:57 am

Lewis to do Q3 on a softer compound maybe? Bit of a gamble but worth a punt? I don't know the time difference between compounds.

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:02 am

I don't see how it's worth it in Q3?

Invade · Post by **Invade** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:03 am

Did I just hear that Hamilton is on his 5th ICE whereas Rosberg has plenty to spare? At this stage in the season? That's laughable!

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:08 am

Everything is really conspiring against a head to head Rosberg V Hamilton battle.

Yellowbin74 · Post by **Yellowbin74** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:10 am

Hamilton_Jar wrote:I don't see how it's worth it in Q3?

Yeah, meant Q2 lol

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:10 am

Invade wrote:Did I just hear that Hamilton is on his 5th ICE whereas Rosberg has plenty to spare? At this stage in the season? That's laughable!

One of the reasons I think Rosberg will win the title. Not sure exactly how many penalties Lewis will have to take or when but surely Hamilton would take a big hit in penalties like McLaren did that time at a track you can overtake.

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:23 am

Yep, and not much has been made of that but Hamilton will have at least two 10 places for engine parts and is also only a reprimand away from a ten place due to some very fastidious stewarding.

I would expect him to take a penalty at Hockenheim or Spa and maybe Malaysia. If nothing else goes wrong.

lamo · Post by **lamo** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:46 am

Hamilton has just been delivered a big slice of luck, Vettel with a 5 place penalty and Rosberg with a 5 place penalty. Huge slice of luck when he seemed slow so far... In 2015 in the first 12 races, Nico was only better at Austria and Spain. This is a terrible track for Lewis. The luck swings around?

Having said that, Lewis suspension will probably fail in Q3 the way this season has gone.

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 11:50 am

lamo wrote:Hamilton has just been delivered a big slice of luck, Vettel with a 5 place penalty and Rosberg with a 5 place penalty. Huge slice of luck when he seemed slow so far... In 2015 in the first 12 races, Nico was only better at Austria and Spain. This is a terrible track for Lewis. The luck swings around?

Having said that, Lewis suspension will probably fail in Q3 the way this season has gone.

I would wait and see if Hamilton puts it on pole and is fastest yet. Rosbergs car is ready.

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:02 pm

Vettel has been well unlucky this year. Without the DNS and DNF he would be right up there in the title fight matching 2 drivers in Mercs.

Lojik · Post by **Lojik** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:19 pm

This track is proving to be a real car breaker. Can't remember seeing anything like it before.

Mr-E · Post by **Mr-E** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:21 pm

So 4th suspension failure. Those kerbs are nasty.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:21 pm

The yellow bumps / kerbs are a real nuisance, if not a mockery! They're bad enough to put a driver's safety in jeopardy.

Disqualifying a lap seems more healthier.

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:21 pm

It reminds me of the Monza 96 tyre stacks

Lt. Drebin · Post by **Lt. Drebin** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:22 pm

Three suspension failures today. That's very bad, something is wrong with the design of the kerbs in Austria.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:24 pm

I won't be surprised if they remove the yellow kerbs for the race. They seem too dangerous.

Yellowbin74 · Post by **Yellowbin74** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:26 pm

UnlikeUday wrote:I won't be surprised if they remove the yellow kerbs for the race. They seem too dangerous.

It's not just the yellow kerbs it seems. The loads going through the suspension on the serrated kerbs is huge.

Ruste13 · Post by **Ruste13** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:28 pm

I like it! Play at own risk. My vote they stay.

KingVoid · Post by **KingVoid** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:28 pm

Sabotage, gifted win for Lewis! Oh wait, wrong Merc driver. Nevermind, these things happen.

Anyway this is the first time this season Nico will start off the front row since Singapore 2015.

mikeyg123 · Post by **mikeyg123** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:29 pm

Ruste13 wrote:I like it! Play at own risk. My vote they stay.

It's not mandatory to even be on the curbs.

Ruste13 · Post by **Ruste13** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:32 pm

mikeyg123 wrote:
Ruste13 wrote:I like it! Play at own risk. My vote they stay.

It's not mandatory to even be on the curbs.

Im sick of all the "is it too dangerous?" crap. Yes. It is dangerous, If you dont like it go home.

lamo · Post by **lamo** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:34 pm

KingVoid wrote:Sabotage, gifted win for Lewis! Oh wait, wrong Merc driver. Nevermind, these things happen.

Anyway this is the first time this season Nico will start off the front row since Singapore 2015.

If Lewis wins qualifying 3rd, that will be a very cheap one. Never a fan of the slower driver lucking into a win

However, I wouldn't put it past Lewis being behind Rosberg after lap 1 going by Lewis' starts this season.

Ruste13 · Post by **Ruste13** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:35 pm

Sweet day for Toro Roso....Sainz dropped a bearing!

Lojik · Post by **Lojik** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:36 pm

lamo wrote:
KingVoid wrote:Sabotage, gifted win for Lewis! Oh wait, wrong Merc driver. Nevermind, these things happen.

Anyway this is the first time this season Nico will start off the front row since Singapore 2015.
If Lewis wins qualifying 3rd, that will be a very cheap one. Never a fan of the slower driver lucking into a win However, I wouldn't put it past Lewis being behind Rosberg after lap 1 going by Lewis' starts this season.

On the other hand might it not be a sensible idea to not push it to the limit, stay off the curbs and register a reasonable but safe time in the knowledge that Ros/Vett will be behind you regardless. Not that he may have a choice in it, he's looking pretty poor again so far this weekend.

RaggedMan · Post by **RaggedMan** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:37 pm

Manor in P9!?!

Mr-E · Post by **Mr-E** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:37 pm

What a super job by Pascal Wehrlein!!

lamo · Post by **lamo** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:39 pm

Lojik wrote:
lamo wrote:
KingVoid wrote:Sabotage, gifted win for Lewis! Oh wait, wrong Merc driver. Nevermind, these things happen.

Anyway this is the first time this season Nico will start off the front row since Singapore 2015.
If Lewis wins qualifying 3rd, that will be a very cheap one. Never a fan of the slower driver lucking into a win However, I wouldn't put it past Lewis being behind Rosberg after lap 1 going by Lewis' starts this season.
On the other hand might it not be a sensible idea to not push it to the limit, stay off the curbs and register a reasonable but safe time in the knowledge that Ros/Vett will be behind you regardless. Not that he may have a choice in it, he's looking pretty poor again so far this weekend.

Unless he pulls a Spain and was holding something back all Friday/Saturday monring this is looking like Lewis' worst weekend all season.

Lt. Drebin · Post by **Lt. Drebin** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:39 pm

Wehrlein will be further up, Perez and Sainz are not participating. Perhaps even Q3?

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:40 pm

lamo wrote:
KingVoid wrote:Sabotage, gifted win for Lewis! Oh wait, wrong Merc driver. Nevermind, these things happen.

Anyway this is the first time this season Nico will start off the front row since Singapore 2015.
If Lewis wins qualifying 3rd, that will be a very cheap one. Never a fan of the slower driver lucking into a win However, I wouldn't put it past Lewis being behind Rosberg after lap 1 going by Lewis' starts this season.

Some could say you haven't been a fan of quite a few of the grand prixs this year then

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:41 pm

Risk of rain!!!!

Warheart01 · Post by **Warheart01** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:43 pm

lamo wrote:
KingVoid wrote:Sabotage, gifted win for Lewis! Oh wait, wrong Merc driver. Nevermind, these things happen.

Anyway this is the first time this season Nico will start off the front row since Singapore 2015.
If Lewis wins qualifying 3rd, that will be a very cheap one. Never a fan of the slower driver lucking into a win However, I wouldn't put it past Lewis being behind Rosberg after lap 1 going by Lewis' starts this season.

You can't be a fan of Rosberg then.

Pietkok · Post by **Pietkok** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:54 pm

Interesting tomorrow, if I'm right all Red Bulls and Ferraris on SS and Mercedes on US.

F1_Ernie · Post by **F1_Ernie** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:54 pm

We might actually get a good race, different tyre strategies at the front

Zoue · Post by **Zoue** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:56 pm

Looks like Intermediate Q3. Will shake things up and be good for Red Bull if so

Ruste13 · Post by **Ruste13** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:57 pm

This weekend has been really interesting so far...really looking forward to this race

lamo · Post by **lamo** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 12:59 pm

Very interesting with Vettel on softs for the race, also Red Bull could go well in qualifying here. With Hamiltons awful starts we could have a genuine race on our hands tomorrow with Red Bulls, Mercedes and Ferrari.

Mercedes need Nico on pole, I wonder if Lewis is in a position to beat him he might be asked to abort his lap to protect Nico?

lamo · Post by **lamo** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:01 pm

Is it me or does the time between sessions seem longer this qualifying?

Sevenfest · Post by **Sevenfest** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:01 pm

lamo wrote:Very interesting with Vettel on softs for the race, also Red Bull could go well in qualifying here. With Hamiltons awful starts we could have a genuine race on our hands tomorrow with Red Bulls, Mercedes and Ferrari.

Mercedes need Nico on pole, I wonder if Lewis is in a position to beat him he might be asked to abort his lap to protect Nico?

I can't see Lewis paying any attention to a request like that.

UnlikeUday · Post by **UnlikeUday** » Sat Jul 02, 2016 1:02 pm

Q3 postponed?